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Jun 8 2008, 04:34 PM
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Has No Idea... ![]() Group: Uncertain Members Posts: 3 Joined: 26-April 07 From: Connecticut Member No.: 2,721 |
Hey Heroes fans!!!!
I just got back from the Big Apple Comic Con in New York and I was very excited to meet Malcolm McDowell there who was signing autographs and taking pictures. I didn't know whether I wanted an A Clockwork Orange photo signed or a Heroes photo signed since they were expensive ($25/ $30 for a photo!). The man selling them I guess goes with malcolm everywhere to sell teh autographs and he said there was a Heroes Mr. Linderman photo that was selling well since he would BE RETURNING NEXT SEASON!!! I flipped out!!! Well I was second in line and I made my way up to Malcolm and he was incredibly nice!! He signed my photo and asked me if I wanted it personalized, i said of course and he wrote "To Andrew, Malcolm McDowell." We engaged in conversation, I said how I was a big fan and that I heard he was gonna be iin the new season of Heroes. He said "yes we are filming that now for 5 episodes." Well, it came from the man himself, whether its gonna be a flashback or a quick return idk, but he is coming back. For the non-believers I'll upload the autograph and the photo and myself and him later. This season is called Villains, so his return could be great...it WILL be great!! |
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Jun 8 2008, 04:34 PM
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Jun 8 2008, 06:05 PM
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![]() Has No Idea... ![]() Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 1-April 08 Member No.: 11,967 |
That's really cool. I liked his character and him being a villain will be very interesting. Seems like many of the Season 1 characters are returning. I wonder how Niki and Nathan will react if they see him (if Linderman returns in the present).
If he returns in flashbacks I think it will be something to do with the group of 12. -------------------- ![]() In Every Hero, There Could Be A Villain ~BRING BACK CLAUDE~ |
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Jun 8 2008, 06:26 PM
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Has No Idea... ![]() Group: Uncertain Members Posts: 3 Joined: 26-April 07 From: Connecticut Member No.: 2,721 |
That's really cool. I liked his character and him being a villain will be very interesting. Seems like many of the Season 1 characters are returning. I wonder how Niki and Nathan will react if they see him (if Linderman returns in the present). If he returns in flashbacks I think it will be something to do with the group of 12. Yeh i was thinking the same thing, cause it seems Angela will have a huge role and will be a huge villain and there will probably like u said be some of the group of 12 flashbacks and see how much more Linderman was involved and involved with Adam. But it would be cool if somehow he survived when D.L. put his hand through his head and will return as a "present" villain, maybe he healed himself? |
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Jun 9 2008, 02:49 AM
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Finding Out... ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 13-November 07 Member No.: 10,154 |
Well Linderman can give life to things so its possible that he can heal himself. So theres no reason to write him out or other characters aswell.
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Jun 9 2008, 03:48 AM
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![]() Failed Attempt w/ Powers... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 497 Joined: 29-April 08 From: Nottingham, UK Member No.: 12,083 |
Ah man this is awesome news. Although I would enjoy some flashbacks to give us insight into the characters past, I kind of doubt all 5 episodes would focus on flashbacks, so I’m more inclined to believe it’ll be in the present… even despite that thing in the graphic novels (from War Buddies) when he said he could not heal the dead, but there are still several possibilities, such as Linderman also being able to heal himself instead of just others, or a member of the company injected him with Adam’s blood (could have been the only sample they had at the time, leading to the issues in season 2 with needing Claire’s instead of having some of Adam’s stored) or some unseen character turns up with the power of resurrection. Personally I’d like to see the latter
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Jun 9 2008, 04:54 AM
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![]() Curious To Use Abilities... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 23-November 07 From: UK Member No.: 10,482 |
He may be able to heal things, but he can't bring things back from the dead. (Which he is)
Also, you try doing anything with a whopping fist-sized hole in your skull. (although, i posted about Arthur Petrelli having powers to resurect the dead as a theory. Hopefully that could be it |
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Jun 9 2008, 04:58 AM
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![]() Finding Out... ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 8-June 08 Member No.: 12,208 |
There probably will be some flashbacks with him, but I also hope that he returns in the present. I kinda liked him although he was evil. You just didn't get to see much of him in the first episode.
But didn't anyone from the company(Bob?) say that Linderman was dead? Maybe it's the same as with Sylar. It's speculated that the order to safe him was given by someone inside the company, but not the company itself, a secret action. Maybe it's the same thing here. Besides, wasn't Linderman somehow a leader of the company? they wouldn't just let him die, would they? And like it was said in a former post, they had Adam at that time... -------------------- BRING BACK CLAUDE
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Jun 9 2008, 06:59 AM
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![]() Finding Out... ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 21-January 07 From: Los angeles Member No.: 255 |
Ugh. I hope it is in flashbacks, He is a good actor and all, but they killed him, so he should stay dead. This show will get to a point where no one will give a flying f*** if someone dies, because we all know they can come back and it will lose it's meaning. They need to stop killing people to "shock" us. Instead they need to kill them if it pertains to the storyline.
sooner or later it will became an meme and viewers just won't care anymore. |
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Jun 9 2008, 07:05 AM
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Has No Idea... ![]() Group: Uncertain Members Posts: 3 Joined: 26-April 07 From: Connecticut Member No.: 2,721 |
Hey guys! Here are the pics for u guys. Its me talking to him as he signs my Heroes picture, (please mind the weird looking armband on my arm, its hiding my IV, my arm got infected a few weeks ago and I still have my IV on my arm), then its me and him, notice my face is red because it was like 90+ degrees in New York!
I tried to scan the picture I got signed but it was too big to fit in the scanner, but u can see it as he signs it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/AMH57/resize1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/AMH57/resize2.jpg |
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Jun 9 2008, 07:21 AM
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Failed Attempt w/ Powers... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 344 Joined: 7-March 07 From: Montreal Member No.: 1,976 |
Ugh. I hope it is in flashbacks, He is a good actor and all, but they killed him, so he should stay dead. This show will get to a point where no one will give a flying f*** if someone dies, because we all know they can come back and it will lose it's meaning. They need to stop killing people to "shock" us. Instead they need to kill them if it pertains to the storyline. sooner or later it will became an meme and viewers just won't care anymore. I agree with you. I had the same concern last season with the overuse of Claire and Adam's ''Healing Blood''. I say that dead characters should remain dead. |
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Jun 9 2008, 12:54 PM
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![]() Finding Out... ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 4-October 07 Member No.: 8,389 |
I was actually kind of suprised we did not see him last season either in a flashback to tie loose ends from season 1, or as part of the 12. Probably a result of the strike.
I thought the notion of the 12 could have been very interesting, but was poorly executed. We never really got a feel for who they were, xave for a select few. Glad he's coming back, in some form. Linderman was such a politely menacing fellow. McDowell plays him well. -------------------- I like my species the way it is.
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Jun 10 2008, 04:23 AM
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![]() Finding Out... ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 3-April 08 From: Utopia Member No.: 11,978 |
Now, I usually strongly object to characters being brought back from dead. If nobody ever truly dies, just spends some quality time in suspended animation instead, where's the thrill?
That being said, I always found Daniel Linderman a fascinating character to start with. The Powers That Be took their sweet time to introduce the Mastermind pulling the strings, dropping all these breadcrumbs and vague hints, so that when you finally got to meet the character in flesh, it was one of the climatic moments of the first season. At least, it was for me. McDowell talked about filming 5 episodes, hmm? I take that as a hint that Linderman is indeed alive, and not just in flashbacks / alternate timeline. As for the plot device that makes that possible... well, as others before me have already suggested, there's the convenient regenerative blood... there's Candice (she was supposedly a couple of floors above while Linderman was shot, but I wouldn't put Linderman's "death" past an illusion. TPTB are sneaky like that)... there's the fact that Linderman possesses the ability of healing (whether he can heal himself or just other living beings, remains currently unknown, but it doesn't certainly sound impossible. Of course, it might be quite hard to heal when there's a fist-shaped ventilation shaft in your brain... -------------------- Peter: "You're Nathan Petrelli. Top of his class, valedictorian, most likely to ... You're that guy with me or without me."
Nathan: "Who's to say I'm not all that because of you?" Claude: "Charles Darwin bred pigeons when he was working out his theory of evolution. Married up various permutations to get maximum potential." Peter: "What do you mean by that, maximum potential?" Claude: "I think he meant you, friend." Linderman: "Do you enjoy vegetables, Mr. Petrelli?" Nathan: "I've been known to eat zucchini when the mood strikes, but not as a rule." |
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Jun 15 2008, 10:37 AM
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Has No Idea... ![]() Group: Uncertain Members Posts: 6 Joined: 15-June 08 Member No.: 12,233 |
I agree with you. I had the same concern last season with the overuse of Claire and Adam's ''Healing Blood''. I say that dead characters should remain dead. I dunno. I can't get over the delight when I heard you know who would be returning alive to "24" next season and you also know who would be returning alive to "Prison Break" next season. Maybe it's because those two particular deaths felt poorly done. It's not like either of those those didn't kill off plenty of characters for real (all the kings horses and all the kings men still can't put Veronica Donovan together again and it's good money we've seen the last of David Palmer and Michelle Dessler). Same goes for "Heroes". (Isaac, Simone, Eden, Ted, Kaito) But HRG getting shot in "Cautionary Tales"? Come on, you knew that wasn't gonna last. Linderman? How that will work remains to be seen. Could be a flashback. Could be a Charles Deveaux-style dream. And yes, could be healing himself. It's not like that's a HUGE deus ex machina. Let's just see what happens. |
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Jun 19 2008, 03:13 PM
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![]() Finding Out... ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 10-February 07 Member No.: 1,056 |
it is kind of the same issue in X-Men with jean grey, you know?
i mean everyone wanted her to come back in some sort of way after she died but it would of just ruined the character and ruin the whole reason for the death. of course everyone doesnt want their favorite character to leave, but you have to do them justice by letting them die the way they should. i mean I almost cried when HRG died, just because it was so built up from the painting, but then all of the emotion just simmered when he was revived. I agree is a vital asset to the series, but I dont being toyed with. i guess the only real person that I want off the show for good would be parkman THAT GUY CANT EVEN ACT! ughh, i hate him. -------------------- Jean Grey is my Hero. |
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Jun 21 2008, 04:03 PM
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![]() Supercharge Ability? you gotta be kidding me! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,249 Joined: 14-December 07 From: Scotland! Member No.: 11,085 |
I could see him coming back to be good. A spoiler said that Nathan, Claire and Peter are going to try and take Angela back from the evil she is in, and Maybe Linderman comes back to try and help her? It's a possibility. I just find it hard to Imagine Malcolm McDowell as a villain, He looks like a friendly old man lol!
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Jun 27 2008, 08:30 AM
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Has No Idea... ![]() Group: Uncertain Members Posts: 6 Joined: 15-June 08 Member No.: 12,233 |
I could see him coming back to be good. A spoiler said that Nathan, Claire and Peter are going to try and take Angela back from the evil she is in, and Maybe Linderman comes back to try and help her? It's a possibility. I just find it hard to Imagine Malcolm McDowell as a villain, He looks like a friendly old man lol! Are you kidding me? Many of his most notable characters have been nasty characters. His most notable role was a violent sociopathic rapist in "A Clockwork Orange" (a wierd but entertaining movie that I recommend, BTW). The first thing I ever saw him in was Dr. Soran, the badguy in "Star Trek: Generations". In the original cut of the movie he was going to KILL Captain Kirk by shooting him in the back! (That didn't go over well with test audiences, so Kirk fell off a bridge instead. |
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