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Azkary
umm... huh.gif
Angel-Ways
QUOTE(ClubStyle_DJ @ Mar 6 2007, 08:28 AM) [snapback]11231[/snapback]
He knows that we know that he knows that we know that he knows that we know...ya know?

I mean I know somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody that KNOWS SOMEBODY!

Know what I mean Vern?




Yeah i kind of do get ya he probbly has somebody inside of the hole thing like "The Hattian"

P.S Whats his real name huh.gif ?? Dont steal my topic angry.gif
Angel-Ways
While i was making a post i thought to my self whats "The Hattian's" real name and whats his life story and when did he get hired for "Primatech" and Ms.Petrelli huh.gif ? huh.gif huh.gif blink.gif blink.gif wink.gif wink.gif
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Angel-Ways @ Mar 8 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]12089[/snapback]
While i was making a post i thought to my self whats "The Hattian's" real name and whats his life story and when did he get hired for "Primatech" and Ms.Petrelli huh.gif ? huh.gif huh.gif blink.gif blink.gif wink.gif wink.gif



I need to know as well! I have NO CLUE!
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Angel-Ways @ Mar 8 2007, 06:00 PM) [snapback]12084[/snapback]
Yeah i kind of do get ya he probbly has somebody inside of the hole thing like "The Hattian"

P.S Whats his real name huh.gif ?? Dont steal my topic angry.gif



I NEED TO KNOW!
Aerdna
I won't be surprised if there's going to be some sort of flashback episode for the Haitian, or at least some flashbacks or some kind of story telling for parts of an episode.
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Aerdna @ Mar 8 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]12111[/snapback]
I won't be surprised if there's going to be some sort of flashback episode for the Haitian, or at least some flashbacks or some kind of story telling for parts of an episode.



Yeah, he is definitely a key part of the series, and they need to elaborate on his storyline...

1. Why exactly did he join forces with Primatech?
2. Where exactly did he come from, and under what circumstances was he raised?
3. How did he get into contact with Grandma Petrelli?
4. How long has he been in contact with Grandma Petrelli/protecting Claire?

SO MANY MORE!!!
Draxus
QUOTE(Tim Kring @ Mar 8 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]12113[/snapback]
Yeah, he is definitely a key part of the series, and they need to elaborate on his storyline...

1. When exactly did he join forces with Primatech?
2. Where exactly did he come from?
3. How did he get into contact with Grandma Petrelli's?
4. How long has he been in contact with Grandma Petrelli/protecting Claire?

SO MANY MORE!!!


Some of these have been answered already

1.) When he was a child, he looked maybe 12, I don't think they gave an age.
2.) Haiti, hence the name "The Haitian"
3.) No idea...
4.) No idea either
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Draxus @ Mar 8 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]12213[/snapback]
Some of these have been answered already

1.) When he was a child, he looked maybe 12, I don't think they gave an age.
2.) Haiti, hence the name "The Haitian"
3.) No idea...
4.) No idea either



I asked where "EXACTLY" did he come from, which means: How he grew up!
Draxus
QUOTE(Tim Kring @ Mar 9 2007, 01:39 AM) [snapback]12215[/snapback]
I asked where "EXACTLY" did he come from, which means: How he grew up!


The exact location within Haiti at which he was found is fairly irrelavent as it's unlikely more than a handful of viewers happen to know the names of specific locations inside Haiti.

Sorry, I don't really see how "Where did he come from?" is the same as "How did he grow up?".

I do hope they give us a closer look into the Haitian's past but I have to admit I found him infinitely more intriguing when he was silent.
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Draxus @ Mar 8 2007, 11:11 PM) [snapback]12222[/snapback]
The exact location within Haiti at which he was found is fairly irrelavent as it's unlikely more than a handful of viewers happen to know the names of specific locations inside Haiti.

Sorry, I don't really see how "Where did he come from?" is the same as "How did he grow up?".

I do hope they give us a closer look into the Haitian's past but I have to admit I found him infinitely more intriguing when he was silent.


OF COURSE anyone who hears: "Where did he come from?" will tell you a state, or location... But I didn't mean it that way...

I will edit my post to make it more clear...

Also, I agree that the Hatian was a lot more interesting to me when he chose not to speak! tongue.gif
Jester77
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Also, I agree that the Hatian was a lot more interesting to me when he chose not to speak!


Well of course a mute guy who can take away your powers is far more intriguing than one who can speak but I love that the first time that we hear him speak is when he is trying to protect Claire's memory
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Mar 9 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]12311[/snapback]
Well of course a mute guy who can take away your powers is far more intriguing than one who can speak but I love that the first time that we hear him speak is when he is trying to protect Claire's memory


Yeah... THAT WAS AWESOME! I really loved that episode! That was such cliff-hanger!

I love The Hatian, (SED), especially since we now see that he has a heart, since he is protecting Claire!
codyopolis
Are you guys sure they don't mean :
Hessian:
noun 2. a native or inhabitant of Hesse.
3. a Hessian mercenary used by England during the American Revolution.
4. a hireling or ruffian.
5. (lowercase) burlap.
6. Also called Hessian andiron. (in the U.S.) an andiron having as an upright the figure of a Hessian soldier of the Revolutionary War.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=Hessian
Jester77
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Are you guys sure they don't mean :
Hessian:
noun 2. a native or inhabitant of Hesse.
3. a Hessian mercenary used by England during the American Revolution.
4. a hireling or ruffian.
5. (lowercase) burlap.
6. Also called Hessian andiron. (in the U.S.) an andiron having as an upright the figure of a Hessian soldier of the Revolutionary War.


As interesting as that may be I am absolutely positive that he is the Haitian and that he derives from Haiti
Tim Kring
I also believe that the Hatian is just from Haiti, I have to disagree with Cody on this one...
Jester77
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I also believe that the Hatian is just from Haiti, I have to disagree with Cody on this one...


Anyway if you need proof they put him as the Haitian on nbc.com
codyopolis
You are probably correct, but why would Matt, whose powers don't work around him, just call hima a hatian. I mean, just by looking at someone I couldn't tell you there exact nationality.
Jester77
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You are probably correct, but why would Matt, whose powers don't work around him, just call hima a hatian. I mean, just by looking at someone I couldn't tell you there exact nationality.


Well Ted first told Matt about a guy who looked like a Haitian and so began the infamous title
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Mar 9 2007, 07:03 PM) [snapback]12632[/snapback]
Well Ted first told Matt about a guy who looked like a Haitian and so began the infamous title


Yeah, that was the orgins of the name... laugh.gif It is very weird to me...
Jester77
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Yeah, that was the orgins of the name... It is very weird to me...


Yeah technically it doesn't make sense to be able to tell just by looking at him, maybe if he spoke they would've been able to say that for sure
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Mar 9 2007, 07:13 PM) [snapback]12640[/snapback]
Yeah technically it doesn't make sense to be able to tell just by looking at him, maybe if he spoke they would've been able to say that for sure


Yeah... so... um... You can never judge a book by it's cover! tongue.gif
Jester77
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Yeah... so... um... You can never judge a book by it's cover!


Unless you have the ability to blow up everything in a 20 mile radius, cause people may not care so much then biggrin.gif
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Mar 9 2007, 08:12 PM) [snapback]12734[/snapback]
Unless you have the ability to blow up everything in a 20 mile radius, cause people may not care so much then biggrin.gif


HAHA! You have a nifty point there!

Yeah, of course... I wish I could do that! laugh.gif
Red
I say this is a brilliant cross refference that places more meaning to the Name they chosse for Jimmy.
QUOTE(codyopolis @ Mar 9 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]12371[/snapback]
Are you guys sure they don't mean :
Hessian:
noun 2. a native or inhabitant of Hesse.
3. a Hessian mercenary used by England during the American Revolution.
4. a hireling or ruffian.
5. (lowercase) burlap.
6. Also called Hessian andiron. (in the U.S.) an andiron having as an upright the figure of a Hessian soldier of the Revolutionary War.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=Hessian
Originally It was supposed to be the Mysterious European (Dude) before they casted Jimmy. AFTER Jimmy was casted, he became "the Haitian". the only remnats of that Idea was Nathan's reference to him as Spooky-Euro-Dude. (check link on my sig)

The SED background was already stated in Chap.17, Part 3, Scene 3.
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Red @ Mar 17 2007, 12:01 PM) [snapback]14552[/snapback]
I say this is a brilliant cross refference that places more meaning to the Name they chosse for Jimmy.Originally It was supposed to be the Mysterious European (Dude) before they casted Jimmy. AFTER Jimmy was casted, he became "the Haitian". the only remnats of that Idea was Nathan's reference to him as Spooky-Euro-Dude. (check link on my sig)

The SED background was already stated in Chap.17, Part 3, Scene 3.


Hmmmm, I think my cousin might be right!
Jester77
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Hmmmm, I think my cousin might be right!


But we know for a fact that he is Haitian not Hessian
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Mar 17 2007, 02:55 PM) [snapback]14594[/snapback]
But we know for a fact that he is Haitian not Hessian


He may not be Hessian, but the meaning of the word is far being just being Hessian... Read the link that he posted...
Jester77
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He may not be Hessian, but the meaning of the word is far being just being Hessian... Read the link that he posted...


How can you act Hessian if you aren't Hessian?

..so confused
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Mar 17 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]14619[/snapback]
How can you act Hessian if you aren't Hessian?

..so confused


I understand it, but I don't know what you are getting mixed up with?!?
Jester77
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but the meaning of the word is far being just being Hessian


I don't get what you're saying there, that's where I'm confused
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Mar 17 2007, 04:54 PM) [snapback]14636[/snapback]
I don't get what you're saying there, that's where I'm confused


I meant that you don't have to be Hessian to be Hessian... It is a learned culture...
Jester77
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I meant that you don't have to be Hessian to be Hessian... It is a learned culture...


Oh okay, I get it
Red
It's part of the mystery of the character. Also we Americans might butcher the pronunciation of the name. like a clicking sound that we can't pronounce properly like German accent. laugh.gif

P.S. nice sig Azkary
Tim Kring
Well, it seems that the Haitian can block all powers... Like Hiro said in the "FUTURE" episode, "Up-stairs our powers will be blocked by The Haitian..."

This concludes that The Haitian can most-likely block off all of their powers!
(But don't quote me just yet!) tongue.gif

My theory is that the Haitian needs to KNOW what the power is in order to stop it/block it/prevent it from being accessed...

What are your thoughts???
moneybanks
makes a lot of sense!!! considering peter has to remember the people that he gets their powers from, i could see that definately being the case!!

Good work Kring!!
The Haitian
QUOTE(Tim Kring @ May 3 2007, 12:18 AM) [snapback]22825[/snapback]
Well, it seems that the Haitian can block all powers... Like Hiro said in the "FUTURE" episode, "Up-stairs our powers will be blocked by The Haitian..."

This concludes that The Haitian can most-likely block off all of their powers!
(But don't quote me just yet!) tongue.gif

My theory is that the Haitian needs to KNOW what the power is in order to stop it/block it/prevent it from being accessed...

What are your thoughts???


Initially I did not think that the Haitian could block all powers but after what future Hiro said in this episode I think I've changed my mind.
I don't think that the Haitian can know every single one of Peter's powers but yet he can block them all apparently. [Even Peter probably doesn't know all his powers (he has all of Sylar's powers plus the powers of all the special people he's been in contact with).] That's a whole lot of powers for the Haitian to KNOW in order to block them. Maybe the fact that he can block all the powers only indicates that he became more powerful himself....
DCSimian
Yeah, I'm going to agree that the Haitian doesn't have to know what powers to block...he just blocks all of them. There's no way he can know all of Peter's powers. Another case in point would be when Mr. Bennett and the Haitian were after Peter and Claude, Peter was able to use telekinesis to stop the taser, while in the Haitian's presence. He was also able to fly away afterwards. The Haitian may have selective control on who he'll let use their powers. I think when Parkman was interrogating Hiro, he allowed Matt to use his telepathy. Heh, even though he doesn't say much, I love his character.
Herrero3
This tv show has to have conclusions!

I rally hope that this bomb don't blow up new york but hiro will never kil peter.
And sav candice to save claire in the future or else sylar has claires brain.
I actually hated this future!

Lock peter and sylar in a jail with haitian and all has a happy ending smile.gifsmile.gif
lammy29
na i think the bomb will go off but summit must crazy will happen or summit. the haitian can block powers without knowin there power i think cause thts the reason sylar (nathan) went to get peter n hiro wen haitian died. i mite be wrong but cud be like tht kid frm x-men 3
Tim Kring
I've read everyone's post regarding how the Hatian is able to BLOCK Peter's MANY abilities...

Here is my conclusion: The Haitian DOES NOT know all of Peter's abilities, of course, but he knows that Peter has ONE MAIN power, which is the SPONGE/MIMIC ABILITY!!! As long as The Haitian knows what Peter's MAIN ability is, he can BLOCK/PREVENT IT/and or whatever he does... tongue.gif

Does that explain The Haitian BLOCKING THINGY, and PETER's many abilities thing???

QUOTE(moneybanks @ May 3 2007, 07:22 AM) [snapback]22852[/snapback]
makes a lot of sense!!! considering peter has to remember the people that he gets their powers from, i could see that definately being the case!!

Good work Kring!!



THANK you VERY much!
Meara Aideen
QUOTE(Tim Kring @ May 4 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]23041[/snapback]
I've read everyone's post regarding how the Hatian is able to BLOCK Peter's MANY abilities...

Here is my conclusion: The Haitian DOES NOT know all of Peter's abilities, of course, but he knows that Peter has ONE MAIN power, which is the SPONGE/MIMIC ABILITY!!! As long as The Haitian knows what Peter's MAIN ability is, he can BLOCK/PREVENT IT/and or whatever he does... tongue.gif

Does that explain The Haitian BLOCKING THINGY, and PETER's many abilities thing???


That's a good thought. Definately would make sense.

Another idea is just that the Haitian can simply create a void of powers. Kind of like the Yuzen Vong (spelling, it's been a while since I've seen the word) in the New Jedi Order series for Star Wars. He just creates a space where powers don't work. He can lift it for certain people, I guess, which would mean that he's gotten more control over it (does he ever lift it in the present? I can't remember but I don't think so).
The Haitian
QUOTE(Tim Kring @ May 4 2007, 04:15 AM) [snapback]23041[/snapback]
I've read everyone's post regarding how the Hatian is able to BLOCK Peter's MANY abilities...

Here is my conclusion: The Haitian DOES NOT know all of Peter's abilities, of course, but he knows that Peter has ONE MAIN power, which is the SPONGE/MIMIC ABILITY!!! As long as The Haitian knows what Peter's MAIN ability is, he can BLOCK/PREVENT IT/and or whatever he does... tongue.gif

Does that explain The Haitian BLOCKING THINGY, and PETER's many abilities thing???
THANK you VERY much!


really does make a lot of sense then again... doesn't that imply that he has to know that Peter is there to block those powers? They didn't seem to consider a surprise attack?

Jester77
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Another idea is just that the Haitian can simply create a void of powers. Kind of like the Yuzen Vong (spelling, it's been a while since I've seen the word) in the New Jedi Order series for Star Wars. He just creates a space where powers don't work. He can lift it for certain people, I guess, which would mean that he's gotten more control over it (does he ever lift it in the present? I can't remember but I don't think so).


I like that and it makes sense, I say the Haitian can just block off all powers nobody if he knows about it or not
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Meara Aideen @ May 4 2007, 05:30 AM) [snapback]23045[/snapback]
That's a good thought. Definately would make sense.

Another idea is just that the Haitian can simply create a void of powers. Kind of like the Yuzen Vong (spelling, it's been a while since I've seen the word) in the New Jedi Order series for Star Wars. He just creates a space where powers don't work. He can lift it for certain people, I guess, which would mean that he's gotten more control over it (does he ever lift it in the present? I can't remember but I don't think so).


That makes some sense... Like creating an area/zone where powers can't work! Like a powerless zone! Man that is a good theory!

I like this one as well, almost all of these theories should be plausible... Mine is very complicated though... dry.gif Of course this show wouldn't put something as complex in the show though...
Jester77
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Of course this show wouldn't put something as complex in the show though...


You're right they wouldn't and usually how these powers work are a lot simpler than we are led to believe
Meara Aideen
QUOTE(Tim Kring @ May 5 2007, 01:16 AM) [snapback]23145[/snapback]
Mine is very complicated though... dry.gif Of course this show wouldn't put something as complex in the show though...


Well, you never know, the Haitian's powers have the be complicated. Not only can be somehow block other Heroes' powers, he can erase memories. I haven't the faintest idea how these two are connected. And he's the one Hero that we never get a clear veiw of, power wise. It's entirely possible that his powers are far more complicated than I grant them to be and the show will just never explain how he does it.

But thanks for liking my theory! :-)
Jester77
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Not only can be somehow block other Heroes' powers, he can erase memories. I haven't the faintest idea how these two are connected.


Well if the ability and memories lie in the mind, then it is possible that the Haitian can somehow toy with it, not exactly sure how
Tim Kring
All of the theories in this thread are pretty much just speculation, so we won't know unless they elaborate for us...
Jester77
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All of the theories in this thread are pretty much just speculation, so we won't know unless they elaborate for us...


It's not all speculation, we do know a few things: he can block powers (possibly certain powers, maybe all of them), and he can erase memories (certain memories but he can't put them back) That's about all we know
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