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Watch me FLY
Even though they showed that he doesnt eat it we only saw him poking at it! Theres gotta be more to it than that. Plus now Claire cant feel! Is that because of her ability maturing? Or is it from whatver Sylar did to her?
Raekon
Is her ability growing like a second mutation. Remember Adam in the scenes in which he almost died through victoria and when he got blasted through peter on his hand? He already had that and didn't felt anything. Not even an ouch came out of him at all. tongue.gif
tiffany
Yeah, it could be that it's just her power getting greater, but it could also be because Sylar messed with her brain, and maybe messed it up a little?
My_Name_Is_Sylar!
I gotta say that after arguing with people on this site over the issue, I'm glad it's finally resolved. I knew that Sylar did not eat the brains and I absolutely loved the subtle little dig that was thrown at the fanboys who refused to listen.

"Are you going to eat my brain?"

"Claire, that's disgusting."

Absolutely great moment.

As for what he did to her brain, he uses his natural ability (intuitive aptitude). He studies an object and then understands how it works. Sylar studied her brain, as he did the others, and saw what allowed her to regenerate.

The question I have is...how does he alter his DNA to make it so he can do it as well?
Cloud43
It seems like it wasn't just analyzing the brain but it also seemed like he absorbed the ability. He kind stuck his finger in that area where the ability is located, closed his eyes, and it seemed like he 'absorbed' something. Maybe his DNA is mixed, its altered to support that ability he just gained.
tiffany
QUOTE (My_Name_Is_Sylar! @ Sep 23 2008, 12:07 AM) *
I gotta say that after arguing with people on this site over the issue, I'm glad it's finally resolved. I knew that Sylar did not eat the brains and I absolutely loved the subtle little dig that was thrown at the fanboys who refused to listen.

"Are you going to eat my brain?"

"Claire, that's disgusting."

Absolutely great moment.

As for what he did to her brain, he uses his natural ability (intuitive aptitude). He studies an object and then understands how it works. Sylar studied her brain, as he did the others, and saw what allowed her to regenerate.

The question I have is...how does he alter his DNA to make it so he can do it as well?


Yeah, unlike mohinder that seems to go against nature and messes things up? I'm not sure, i'm sort of confused >.<
kayleigh_talitha
QUOTE (Cloud43 @ Sep 23 2008, 12:46 AM) *
It seems like it wasn't just analyzing the brain but it also seemed like he absorbed the ability. He kind stuck his finger in that area where the ability is located, closed his eyes, and it seemed like he 'absorbed' something. Maybe his DNA is mixed, its altered to support that ability he just gained.


I also loved that he wasn't eating the brains, though I wonder what he did with the brains of his previous victims since they all dissapeared.....But not sure on the absorbing, he's extremely adapted to learn how things work, or how they tick as he uses the phrase, he poked around, 'saw' how it worked and closed his eyes to concentrate on his own brain to make his brain 'tick' Claire's way, and gaining her power. Or something lol. He said to her that people only used so little of their brain capacity, I think he can use a lot of it to make all those powers work.
sylarowns
Maybe he fixed Claire's ability, he noticed that she can always heal but she still feels pain, so he just fixed her right up
The Next Era
she never felt pain because she doesnt have nerve endings in her brain... just like any other normal humans .dont you guys listen?
hellblazer
It ties in with his ability Intuitive aptitude meant he could easily study Claire's brain simply by putting his finger in so to speak. He merely informed Claire that she could not feel pain and probably also studied the evolution of her ability which as of yet is to manifest.
kurtsky
Like upgrading her powers so to speak
Radek
I don't understand something, Mohinder says taht the abilities are on the adrenaline, and Sylar looks at the brains...
Which one is right? Obviusly Sylar's method works better than Mohinder's biggrin.gif













Yeah, im still learning english biggrin.gif
dave6074
QUOTE (Radek @ Sep 23 2008, 09:50 PM) *
I don't understand something, Mohinder says taht the abilities are on the adrenaline, and Sylar looks at the brains...
Which one is right? Obviusly Sylar's method works better than Mohinder's biggrin.gif













Yeah, im still learning english biggrin.gif






yeh mohinders one is tad bit confusing... just gonna wait and see what happens tho...

QUOTE (Radek @ Sep 23 2008, 09:50 PM) *
I don't understand something, Mohinder says taht the abilities are on the adrenaline, and Sylar looks at the brains...
Which one is right? Obviusly Sylar's method works better than Mohinder's biggrin.gif













Yeah, im still learning english biggrin.gif






yeh mohinders one is tad bit confusing... just gonna wait and see what happens tho...
Hisuka
can someone tell me wat sylar said after he was done with claire?

it was something like, "You can never die claire...(pause)..." then something.. i couldnt make out wat he said after that.
Kendoguk
QUOTE (Hisuka @ Sep 23 2008, 02:18 PM) *
can someone tell me wat sylar said after he was done with claire?

it was something like, "You can never die claire...(pause)..." then something.. i couldnt make out wat he said after that.


"and i guess neither can i"
Silv
QUOTE (kayleigh_talitha @ Sep 23 2008, 03:27 PM) *
I also loved that he wasn't eating the brains, though I wonder what he did with the brains of his previous victims since they all dissapeared.....But not sure on the absorbing, he's extremely adapted to learn how things work, or how they tick as he uses the phrase, he poked around, 'saw' how it worked and closed his eyes to concentrate on his own brain to make his brain 'tick' Claire's way, and gaining her power. Or something lol. He said to her that people only used so little of their brain capacity, I think he can use a lot of it to make all those powers work.


I think he probably disposed of the brains, since he was so obsessed with only the 'worthy' having abilities. I figured he wouldn't kill Claire anyway, since she surely proved herself worthy by landing a killing blow.

I think he usually gets rid of the brains, so that no one else can ever analyse them.
PlayaTE85
Ok well if you think of Sylar's power, he fixes watches and sees how things works. I think he just looks at the brains and sees how they work, and then just does it that way. Now each power is different by the way the adrenal glands mix with the many different types of blood. But overall the brain controls this. So thats how sylar just copys their powers.

ALSO i think sylar doesnt kill clair for two reasons. First one is obivous cause he cant. But the second is because she is the "light" within the darkness. She is that cure that will save all, that hiro's dad was talking about. Sylar realizes this when he was examining her brain. He noticed how special she was
Ænigma
It seemed to me like he took a certain piece of the brain from her, he was talking about how humans only need a certain amount of their brain then the rest is useless. Then he found a pot and pulled. So I think he pulled a certain tiny piece of the brain.
adobo24
After a billion years he finally he get powers and pokes at her brain.
scouse_god
QUOTE (Watch me FLY @ Sep 23 2008, 06:16 AM) *
Plus now Claire cant feel! Is that because of her ability maturing? Or is it from whatver Sylar did to her?


Claire cant feel him touching her brain because this is what happens in real life.

The brain has no nerve endings for itself (as Sylar says) so it doesnt actually feel any pain. Once he has taken her head off he could do anything to her brain and she wouldnt actually feel it

It would happen to anyone in the real world as well, its not just because she has special powers
kordan11
From what i understood from what Mohinder said, there is one gene. Everyone with powers has this one gene, but it manifests differently in each person because as he said each person has a different chemical composure, like everyone has different fingerprints.

So maybe Sylar just examines the brain to see what chemicals are produced in each person and reproduce them, in essence reproducing the power(seeing how things work). This would mean that, from what we see with the syringe and Mohinder getting powers, Sylar could theoretically open any normal person up and replicate their untapped power.

Of course, this leaves the very big question of how the hell you get powers if you don't have the gene. If the gene produces a certain chemical that reacts with the rest in the body and manifests as a power, then surely injecting yourself with it would only give you powers till the chemical expires. I'll have to rewatch the episode to see what Mohinder says exactly about the enzymes.

Yay for over-analyzing stuff... smile.gif

Obi-Wan Gibnobi
QUOTE (kordan11 @ Sep 24 2008, 09:52 AM) *
So maybe Sylar just examines the brain to see what chemicals are produced in each person and reproduce them, in essence reproducing the power(seeing how things work). This would mean that, from what we see with the syringe and Mohinder getting powers, Sylar could theoretically open any normal person up and replicate their untapped power.


Good idea. Heres another one snatched off Wiki.

Transposons

Transposons have the ability to literally cut and paste genetic material, and are responsible for 40% of human evolution. If Sylar had worked out how to manipulate them it would allow him to cut the desired genetic material and paste it into his own genome.
kayleigh_talitha
QUOTE (The Next Era @ Sep 23 2008, 10:11 AM) *
she never felt pain because she doesnt have nerve endings in her brain... just like any other normal humans .dont you guys listen?


No need to get testy there but yes, Skylar said she didn't feel pain because she had no nerve endings though of course the initial rite to get her top head off had to be really painfull.
`Adam
QUOTE (Radek @ Sep 23 2008, 09:50 PM) *
I don't understand something, Mohinder says taht the abilities are on the adrenaline, and Sylar looks at the brains...
Which one is right? Obviusly Sylar's method works better than Mohinder's biggrin.gif


I'm not so great at science so that confused me too. However until it's explained a bit better I'm going to go with both of them. I guess in the end most things, if not everything in the body can be traced to the brain. Thinking about it you could go from....

Adrenaline > Fight or Flight (acute stress response) > Sympathetic Nervous System > Autonomic Nervous System > Peripheral Nervous System > Brain.

I think that works. mellow.gif

Also Mohinder could just mean that the abilities are triggered through adrenaline, but they're created by the brain. Kordan11 raises a good point too.

Meh, I hate science.
supermage87
QUOTE (scouse_god @ Sep 24 2008, 01:31 AM) *
Claire cant feel him touching her brain because this is what happens in real life.

The brain has no nerve endings for itself (as Sylar says) so it doesnt actually feel any pain. Once he has taken her head off he could do anything to her brain and she wouldnt actually feel it

It would happen to anyone in the real world as well, its not just because she has special powers


That is not the point, The painless part is not only when Sylar touched her brain but also when she cut herself with the broken glasse.
As I can see, She can't fell anymore pain.
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