travis
Sep 22 2008, 11:32 PM
Only Nathan can see him...so is he still dead and just in Nathan's head or what?
tiffany
Sep 22 2008, 11:35 PM
I dont think it's just in his head, because he's the one that healed him, right?
Cloud43
Sep 22 2008, 11:37 PM
Yeah and not only that in the previews you see Daphne and Linderman together...I don't know, maybe he's a ghost or something.
travis
Sep 22 2008, 11:38 PM
I love how confused I am already...but that's the best part of the show
tiffany
Sep 22 2008, 11:57 PM
QUOTE (Cloud43 @ Sep 23 2008, 12:37 AM)

Yeah and not only that in the previews you see Daphne and Linderman together...I don't know, maybe he's a ghost or something.
Perhaps only heroes can see him?
But that would go against for when he said "only you can see me" .. or something like that.
.. Or maybe he somehow comes back from being a ghost (saying, if he is a ghost).
Cloud43
Sep 23 2008, 12:05 AM
I don't know...I have a feeling Arthur (Nathan's father) has something to do with it as well.
Egotismo
Sep 23 2008, 03:09 AM
Just so you know, there is an ability that lets your soul out of your body, the one who bears the ability has the choice to show or hide himself as to a specific person or everyone. "Soul and Body Isolation"
My theory. Linderman's ability evolved to self-healing+heal after Hawkins squeezes his brain (It is also possible that Hawkins touched a part of Linderman's brain causing his power to evolve/get a new one). And later on, developed soul and body isolation ability.
[From a spoiler i read 2 weeks ago]
Obi-Wan Gibnobi
Sep 23 2008, 03:51 AM
Look up Dr Manhattan guys.
Darth Carp
Sep 23 2008, 04:10 AM
For me, I think Linderman's definitely an angel. He's looking over Nathan now. I guess, when Nathan was at the pearly gates, Linderman met him and used his power there and came back to earth with Nathan. The whole chess scene really did remind me of Hurley off LOST. "Checkmate, Mr. Eko."
Obi-Wan Gibnobi
Sep 23 2008, 04:15 AM
QUOTE (Uchiha Carp @ Sep 23 2008, 01:10 PM)

For me, I think Linderman's definitely an angel. He's looking over Nathan now. I guess, when Nathan was at the pearly gates, Linderman met him and used his power there and came back to earth with Nathan. The whole chess scene really did remind me of Hurley off LOST. "Checkmate, Mr. Eko."
2nd time lucky.
If he is bound to Nathan, then how did he
recruit Daphne?
Darth Carp
Sep 23 2008, 05:55 AM
QUOTE (GIBBY @ Sep 23 2008, 01:15 PM)

2nd time lucky.
If he is bound to Nathan, then how did he recruit Daphne?
2nd time lucky??
Well, I guess he appeared to Daphne, too.

Maybe she doesn't know he's an angel.
maxzx2
Sep 23 2008, 07:13 AM
I think the linderman that nathan sees is really matt parkman's dad.
The DOKTOR
Sep 23 2008, 07:22 AM
QUOTE (maxzx2 @ Sep 23 2008, 11:13 AM)

I think the linderman that nathan sees is really matt parkman's dad.
You may have something there. I thought of Maury when Linderman mentionned that only Nathan could see him.
Or maybe it has something to do with Charles Deveaux's ability. I don't know, just guessing...
kurtsky
Sep 23 2008, 09:47 AM
Hmm maybe his ability evolved such that even though he's a ghost he could heal. Nah..
Raekon
Sep 23 2008, 10:24 AM
In my opinion the only reason why only nathan can see linderman is because linderman is actually still dead and nathan has a "I defeated the death experience" that causes him this illusions OR Maury or anyone with a similar power is playing with his mind full time.
That linderman is not alive after the squeezed brain is obvious cause otherwise tracy, the nurse and peter would had saw him. Nathans recovery came through future peter that obviously has a peter he didn't knew once again because he never needed it before (thats why he was surprised as always when a power he doesn't know he has yet kicks in).
The scenes with daphne could be either flashbacks to show that she were working for him for longer than we thought or the person with the "mind games" makes her see him as well manipulating her to get his/her hands on that formula.
valt27
Sep 23 2008, 11:29 AM
QUOTE (maxzx2 @ Sep 23 2008, 08:13 AM)

I think the linderman that nathan sees is really matt parkman's dad.
that's a great thought! I like this idea much more than the "ghost/angels" theories...
Shadowrun
Sep 23 2008, 11:38 AM
QUOTE
You may have something there. I thought of Maury when Linderman mentionned that only Nathan could see him.
Or maybe it has something to do with Charles Deveaux's ability. I don't know, just guessing...
I always thought that Charles Deveaux's ability was Astral Projection and that because of it he managed to live beyond death. If that is his ability he could have somehting to do with Linderman.
Maury was in Agela's dream but at this moment he would probably still be trapped in his own mind. Unless of course he's attempting to break free somehow by using Nathan.
Supergirl
Sep 23 2008, 02:01 PM
Who knows?!?! This show is making ZERO sense right now!
dave6074
Sep 23 2008, 02:07 PM
QUOTE (Uchiha Carp @ Sep 23 2008, 01:10 PM)

For me, I think Linderman's definitely an angel. He's looking over Nathan now. I guess, when Nathan was at the pearly gates, Linderman met him and used his power there and came back to earth with Nathan. The whole chess scene really did remind me of Hurley off LOST. "Checkmate, Mr. Eko."
YES !! the Mr.eko bit.. as soon as i saw he was alone i was like.... LOSTTT !!!
lol that seen was weird,,
and so was this one.......
Avellana
Sep 23 2008, 03:51 PM
QUOTE (Cloud43 @ Sep 23 2008, 01:05 AM)

I don't know...I have a feeling Arthur (Nathan's father) has something to do with it as well.
I don't think it's Arthur, I think it's future Peter. He has that power.
SleepingPhoenix
Sep 23 2008, 04:09 PM
Avellana, i totally agree with you. I just watched the episode again, and Linderman appears with Nathan in the hospital, muttering about telling everyone about them. He then falls asleep. Peter says something about "when you find out what i've done, you'll forgive me." Then kisses him on the forehead and leaves. Linderman appears right then.
I think we were supposed to assume Future Peter is talking about shooting him, but it definatly could be something to distract Nathan.
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