Favorite Episode all Season. I think things were tied together and there were a lot of twists.

-When the guy came for matt and speedster in Matt's apartment and he usied his powers to create an illusion.
That was swett.
-When Peter went flying out of thw window(but not really because sylar used his powers to stop him from dying)
When he flew out teh window, Clair and Elle were like, Wth?!
-When Elle and Clair were on the plane, and Elle had her anxistity attack, i thought they were going to crash.
(Do you mind? Letting go of my hand?) haha

Anyways, i like them working as a team. I felt abhd for Elle though. It was deffinetly an Elle Filled Episode.
But Over all, it was one of the best episodes if not the best all Season.
Sucks we have to wait two weeks for the new one, but i'd rather wait then go through the season really fast.


Ratings;
Last week; 8.80
This Episode; 8.75

ratings down again oh mann will they ever go back up? i really liked this episode

they wernt down by much. and the promo wasn't the best.
so i think we did okay this week.

WHY TWO WEEKS???

there's some SNL us election presidential bash...

i can't wait 2 weeks either!!! d***. the ratings are down again.

I'm glad that there's a week break because who knows maybe the anticipation will get the old viewers back?
Either that or we'll loose even more people

going by how the promo is, i think it'll be the latter.
but i expect NBC to come upwith 1or 2 more promos. so they might get the viewers back

Yeah i think so too. It looks like that episode will be the turning point in the ratings.

screw the ratings, as long communities like these stay strong then who cares what the others think?

"there's some SNL us election presidential bash..."
What!? they're showing that instead of heroes!?

Here are some posts from other people on different Heroes forums on the subject that I think pretty much hit the nail on the head.



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Also, heres some things that major publications have been saying -- Says The Chicago Tribune: "That's it, Heroes, I'm done" (and that's just the headline). The New York Post: "I fear that Heroes has traveled beyond the point of redemption." And Time: "I may be on the verge of giving up on Heroes, if I haven't already given up on it somewhere deep inside."

I really do think Heroes needs a revamp. I haven't been a fan of the writing at all. They need to go back to the genius level of season one. Hopefully they'll do this soon before my fav scifi show gets the can.

i remember the first episode of season 1(if not mistaken) you see a guy who was at this playground attempting to fly and failing miserably, while you see a japanese man bored at office trying to find his calling in life. It felt realistic (yes, of course i know it's not real), it had a movie-ish kind of feel to the show and you stayed glued to the tube because the writers did a good job of making it intricate in it's simplicity like Peter was the good guy and Sylar was the bad guy(all i wanted was to see a powerful epic battle).
The finale of season 1 was so-so for me but became better after watching season 2( the worst season for them ever..i really hope so).
Season 3 started out with a bang you might say, but i was talking to those who don't frequent sites like this,watch Heroes on a regular basis or have completely have stopped, have the same sour taste in their mouth, STILL, over last season and they also told me that it is now so complicated with plot holes and what not that they say Heroes became more stupid than the last season(and they meant season 1).
Some told me they hated the fact they made Peter like the bad guy and asked why Sylar is still there...i kept quiet at first then i told them, umh btw, the writers made him Peter's brother and Peter lost his powers and what not.. they looked at me with a nod and answered sarcastically: were you watching Heroes or a a rerun of some crappy soap opera..lol..i laugh but seriously i agree..if ratings go down any further..you might as well pack your bags and look for a newer show to watch..or go out and play sports...lol

The brand of negativity expressed in the articles some posters have referenced is toxic and, unfortunately, inevitable for any show with any history of high viewership and "buzz". Worst of all, it is contagious.

Yes, Season 1 was the best so far. It's greatness wasn't only due to good writing. A huge part of it was because it was new and different. As with many other things in life, the first time is the best time and no matter how many times you try you will never recapture the magic. And if you don't move on, it becomes stale and boring, resulting in a different type of criticism, but criticism nonetheless.

Season 2 had an awesome premise, but fell victim to the strike, which led to a hastened ending and set the stage for a rocky road ahead.

Which brings us to Season 3. Aside from the obvious fallout from Season 2's truncated wrap-up, there have been some very strong episodes and many signs of improvement. We have Hiro and Ando interacting with other characters, Peter and Sylar both blurring the lines between black and white. Parkman has come back to civilization and is stirring things up with his newfound grasp of his true ability and determination to see his vision of the future come to light with Daphne, who has breathed a much-needed anime-style comic flair into the show. And I really liked the episodes where they hunted down Level 5 escapees one by one. Lots of opportunity to show nerds like me some truly interesting and dangerous powers without burdening main characters with them.

My only big complaint so far is Mohinder's descent into this Jeff Goldblum-esque fly creature storyline. I mean, really, WTF?

Could the show be improved? Sure. But show me one that can't. I think if the writers slowed down the "soapy" family drama and focused more on the fact that the characters are living in a world with 6 billion non "specially abled" people, the show could easily get some of the Debbie Downers back and bring the show back to the level we expected it to be on before the strike.

Do ratings matter? Absolutely. We're lucky that Heroes is on NBC, which tends to at least give shows a chance and even lets them wrap up their storylines once they're cancelled. If it were on Fox, then I'd be worried. But those viewers who are already jumping ship should be ashamed of themselves, because the blame for cancellation would fall squarely on their shoulders. Heroes can absolutely be redeemed, but not if we as viewers don't give it all we've got.

It happened to Veronica Mars. It happened to Arrested Development. That's why it breaks my heart to see so-called loyal fans of the show using this forum to bandwagon and perpetuate the toxic negativity.

Well round of applause to you Unsung, good points, well made.

Couldn't agree with you more, particularly about the not being able to recapture the 'newness' of something not experienced before. People are generally fickle by nature and there will always be an influx of viewers at the beginning of a new series, understandably alot of them move on but some persist and are disappointed that it's 'not the same'. It can't stay new forever, or indeed stagnant, things have to move on. Some characters go, some are developed, it is the way of things.
Generally I don't 'do' internet forums and my experience here has been an eye opener. It seems there are some who think it's "cool" to pick apart the show, highlighting insignificant details. It frustrates me They exacerbate the problem.

I also looked into how ratings are 'guesstimated'. I found the viewer base was surprising small and didn't cover many other avenues, such as downloading for example.

At the end of the day, it's a tv show, an interesting and different one at that. It's picked up alot this season and I think it's going in the right direction.

Btw I quite like the whole mohinder thing although it borrowed heavily from the fly

Anyway, don't want to detract from your post

10 points for you

Yeah seriously guys, be positive. The ratings will pick up. THey have already. So what they fell a tiny bit in the last episode. I think the next episdoe is going to break the 9M's

I hear alot of articles complaining its not like back in s1 were it was like ordinary people learning they had powers etc, erm hello? are they just going to stay around like that forever moaning about "whats happening to me" etc etc. I loved s1 but come on you cant keep it the same there is one character (claire) who has and she bores/annoys the f*** out of me with her crying.

Imo they could have done the pacing alot better (its been extremely fast) for it but i think that its down to people complaning about the slowness of s2, s1 was hella slow to btw, im not gonna come on here and pretend s2 was perfect but it wasn't terrible. Some bad stuff maya/brother/west/monica vs Adam/Bob/Hot japanese chick/elle etc.

I dont think you can say ratings will pick up for sure, but its against stiff competition atm Dancing with stars needs to be watched live really, so if your a fan of that and heroes guess what? heroes gets watched second. Football is on on mondays to isnt it? Ratings wise in the uk the show is quite good tho even with us being 2 weeks behind.

Yeah, I dread to think how UK's rating would drop if they started putting some mindless program like X Factor or Strictly Come Dancing on at the same time. I think it's sad that people will watch repetitive shows like Dancing with the Stars rather than something creative and written, like Heroes. I don't like Lost, at all, but even Lost deserves more viewings than Dancing with the Stars.

Perhaps NBC should make a false public ultimatum - like, if Heroes gets less than X million viewers, then they'll cancel it. I wonder how many wanderers would find their way back and how many more people would watch it on TV rather than downloading. If I lived in USA, I would definately watch it on TV and not download it.

I think that what people are failing to notice is that it's not just Heroes that has had a drop ratings. It's shows all across the board. The writers' strike had a huge impact on the industry as a whole and many shows are still finding their feet. But for some reason, Heroes seems to have been put under the microscope and each aspect picked apart and criticised and then criticised some more, which is just nonsense to me. Yes, there are a lot of things that are not quite right and they should be addressed and corrected accordingly but taking a few negative articles from here and there and then coming to the conclusion that Heroes is going to be cancelled tomorrow is rather silly-- I'm not saying that's what's happening here, just generally commenting on some of the more reactionary fans that I've seen posting furiously elsewhere as a result of this.

Season 1 was superb, absolutely. It had everything, action, suspense, mystery, drama. But it wasn't faultless (shocker). It was a brand new show that was still trying to figure out what it was and where it was going and there were a few stinkers in the collection of episodes and the finale didn't really live up to the hype. Season 2 had potential, despite the painfully slow start but was cut short in its prime. I think the main problem with Season 3 is pacing. If the writers slow down and focus a bit more on the characters and the mystery, then I've got complete faith that it'll be back to its usual self.

The other thing that differentiates Heroes from other shows (and this is definitely a good thing), is that the producers/writers are in touch with the fans. They know exactly what people think and are aware of the current problem and seem to be listening to complaints. I'm not saying they should pander to each and every one, because that would just be ridiculous, but if they focus on the issues that come up again and again, then they'll know what to "fix", if you like.

here are my thoughts on the new season. while it is definitely way better than the dismal season 2, it has become way too complicated and there are too many interweaving stories.

primatech vs pinehearst? so many heroes being undercover and so many more being discovered? this is not what i imagined heroes to be at all. this season is very action packed and has awesome scenes and all, but that's all it is. all action and no talk.

I miss the feel of season 1, the idea that nobodies like you and me discovered that they're special, and that they can save the world. the feeling of mystique. right now it just feels like the writers are trying too hard to make everything flashy and hope that people will like it.

EVERYWEEK the story spins out of control, there are loop holes everywhere, and it isn't as tight as season 1 was. true, this happens to all shows (like prison break - i mean, the guy has already broken out of prison already, what started as a seemingly normal story has escalated to something super confusing), because when the planning first starts they will only plan properly for the 1st season.

that's why the 1st season had a proper aim, and the story was tight. whereas now in season 3, it's just spiralling out of control, and you have no idea where is the whole thing headed.

i'm really disappointed in the writers so far, and i hope they really tie up all the loose ends and give us a CLEAR idea of where the story is headed. it's all very muddled up and confusing now.

that being said, i still really like this show, simply because it's heroes, and there are so many revelations each week - enough to keep me in suspense and get me to tune in next week. but that's only because i'm a heroes fan. if the story keeps up like that, i bet the ratings will just continue falling.

but i suppose to expect it to be as good as the 1st season is wishful thinking. shows rarely ever go back to their peak once they have reached it. correct me if i'm wrong, but i feel that shows will just peak at their 1st season and go downhill from there on.

oh well. as long as heroes is still showing, i'm still a fan of it despite the lacklustre writing and plotlines.

I think I'm in love with you That couldn't have been any better put

Yeah, I LOVED Season 1, but the whole thing about "ordinary people discover they have extraordinary powers" has already been done, so Season 3 can't really be a re-hash of what made Season 1 so good. It needs something fresh, and that's what it's done

Everyone seems to be really worried about the ratings falling, but really, that's just what happens with shows like Heroes. When the new season's just about to come out, everyone's talking about it, and especially in the UK, when S3 was just about to air, there was HUGE amounts of press surrounding it, so everyone was eager to watch it. But as time passes, the casual viewers of Heroes branch off. It's just what happens

Oh, and ratings aren't all important as some people think. Heroes makes massive amounts of money from other things, like sponsors and merchandise. So don't worry, a few thousand less people watching Heroes won't cause to show to get cancelled

I mean, there are estimated to be 99 million TVs in the US and the ratings for Heroes are just under 9 million. THat means that on Monday from 9pm-10pm, about 1 in 11 of every TV in the whole country is watching Heroes. By my count, that's pretty d*** high

yeah, i have faith that the show will re-claim it's throne =p