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Arthur
wow, after the african guy death. Arthur wants more...

is Arthur going to kill Hiro? was the rumour true about Hiro death?

i hope not
Lolzerzomg
QUOTE (Arthur @ Nov 10 2008, 07:33 PM) *
wow, after the african guy death. Arthur wants more...

is Arthur going to kill Hiro? was the rumour true about Hiro death?

i hope not


The biggest threat to Sylar in season 1 was Hiro, one of the biggest threats to Peter and Adam was Hiro in season 2, its logical to assume that Arthur views timetraveling as one if his biggest concerns.
Auxii
Arthur is practically unstoppable now.
So stupid.
Except for the upcoming eclipse.
Ando
QUOTE (Auxii @ Nov 11 2008, 03:51 AM) *
Arthur is practically unstoppable now.
So stupid.
Except for the upcoming eclipse.

Did you watch the episode?! tongue.gif The Haitian!

I hope Hiro doesn't die sad.gif
Ozzy
Hiro needs to teleport before his power gets consumed imo.
He also needs to learn to freeze time when danger occurs.
Laura

He also needs to learn to freeze time when danger occurs.

This is one of the flaws of the show. He does have that power, he had learned to freeze time when danger occurs, but if everyone used their powers all the time, at the best time, in the best way, the show wouldn't have any drama. I hope they don't write themselves into a corner.

Still awesome, don't get me wrong.
Darth Carp
There was like, two seconds of Hiro screaming and then a new, funky To Be Continued... Hiro could easily teleport... or stop time or whatever at the beginning of next episode. Anyway, rumour has it that Arthur doesn't take his power and somehow alters his mind to make him think he's 10 years old.
Idontwannabeasuperhero
Hiro's not going to die. He's Hiro.

*waits to be made to eat his words*

Good ending though. Why isn't it next week already?
JPW
I was thinking this is the part where Ando comes to save Hiro. It is from fear Ando finds out he always had a power he never understood it though.

So Ando lets out those Red sparks and Hiro and Ando escape. That was my view on it....

Ando always had a power... he's just never known how to use it and it's fear of his best friend being in trouble that he manages to use his power and save Hiro.

That could work but then much like Sylar and Peter Hiro has quite a fanbase and if he is killed off it could be a huge blow to ratings. Because people like Hiro and he has a purpose in the episode.

I think Arthur is going to steal his power and maybe Hiro's memory and that would be it. The other thing I guess is that at some point in time Hiro saw his future and has prepared a suprise trick.

Hiro needs to survive and I await for next episode to find out.

Skalli
I think he will survive for the moment, looked like he was getting his memory erased (which seems to be arthurs base power, but im not really sure). One thing i would like to know how does Utsu manage to scream like that? surely if your head is taken of in such a way you dont scream you are just dead lol.. no?
The Crowing
QUOTE (Skalli @ Nov 11 2008, 03:44 PM) *
I think he will survive for the moment, looked like he was getting his memory erased (which seems to be arthurs base power, but im not really sure). One thing i would like to know how does Utsu manage to scream like that? surely if your head is taken of in such a way you dont scream you are just dead lol.. no?


Arthur's base power is "power theft", thats how he is able to aquire other abilities. Maybe Arthur didn't just chop his head off straight away, he could have twisted his nipple first.
Toudjine
QUOTE (JPW @ Nov 11 2008, 09:33 AM) *
I was thinking this is the part where Ando comes to save Hiro. It is from fear Ando finds out he always had a power he never understood it though.

So Ando lets out those Red sparks and Hiro and Ando escape. That was my view on it....

Ando always had a power... he's just never known how to use it and it's fear of his best friend being in trouble that he manages to use his power and save Hiro.

That could work but then much like Sylar and Peter Hiro has quite a fanbase and if he is killed off it could be a huge blow to ratings. Because people like Hiro and he has a purpose in the episode.

I think Arthur is going to steal his power and maybe Hiro's memory and that would be it. The other thing I guess is that at some point in time Hiro saw his future and has prepared a suprise trick.

Hiro needs to survive and I await for next episode to find out.

i like that thoery but ive also heard the rumors about him makeing hiro think hes ten also
but it would be cool to see ur idea biggrin.gif
xeoh85
QUOTE (Laura @ Nov 11 2008, 12:31 AM) *
He also needs to learn to freeze time when danger occurs.

This is one of the flaws of the show. He does have that power, he had learned to freeze time when danger occurs, but if everyone used their powers all the time, at the best time, in the best way, the show wouldn't have any drama. I hope they don't write themselves into a corner.

Still awesome, don't get me wrong.



Hiro cannot get out of this pickle by freezing time... Arthur has Hero's time/space manipulation ability (which he stole from Peter, who initially absorbed it from Hiro). Thus, if Hiro paused time, Ando would be frozen, but Hiro AND Arthur would both still be active in that paused moment (like when Future Hiro met Peter on the subway in S.1).

Hiro's only option is thus to teleport somewhere else in space, and he has to do it fast before his powers are ripped away.

However, we have seen that when Hiro teleports while touching someone, he brings that person too... Thus, since Arthur had his hands on Hiro's head, any attempt to teleport away might simply bring Arthur with him.

Poor Hiro may be screwed.... =(

-X
The Crowing
QUOTE (xeoh85 @ Nov 11 2008, 09:49 PM) *
Hiro cannot get out of this pickle by freezing time... Arthur has Hero's time/space manipulation ability (which he stole from Peter, who initially absorbed it from Hiro). Thus, if Hiro paused time, Ando would be frozen, but Hiro AND Arthur would both still be active in that paused moment (like when Future Hiro met Peter on the subway in S.1).

Hiro's only option is thus to teleport somewhere else in space, and he has to do it fast before his powers are ripped away.

However, we have seen that when Hiro teleports while touching someone, he brings that person too... Thus, since Arthur had his hands on Hiro's head, any attempt to teleport away might simply bring Arthur with him.

Poor Hiro may be screwed.... =(

-X


In your post you clearly state that Arthur already has Time/Space maipulation from Peter so why would he need Hiro's power too? The answer is he doesn't and he doesn't steal it.
hellblazer
QUOTE (Darth Carp @ Nov 11 2008, 10:27 AM) *
There was like, two seconds of Hiro screaming and then a new, funky To Be Continued... Hiro could easily teleport... or stop time or whatever at the beginning of next episode. Anyway, rumour has it that Arthur doesn't take his power and somehow alters his mind to make him think he's 10 years old.


Thats the theory I'm going along with also
xeoh85
QUOTE (The Crowning @ Nov 11 2008, 01:56 PM) *
In your post you clearly state that Arthur already has Time/Space maipulation from Peter so why would he need Hiro's power too? The answer is he doesn't and he doesn't steal it.



He might want to steal it to deprive Hiro of the ability, because it constitutes a threat to Arthur.

Although, he may just intend to neutralize him with a mindtrick.
Alice20
QUOTE (xeoh85 @ Nov 12 2008, 08:49 AM) *
Hiro cannot get out of this pickle by freezing time... Arthur has Hero's time/space manipulation ability (which he stole from Peter, who initially absorbed it from Hiro). Thus, if Hiro paused time, Ando would be frozen, but Hiro AND Arthur would both still be active in that paused moment (like when Future Hiro met Peter on the subway in S.1).

Hiro's only option is thus to teleport somewhere else in space, and he has to do it fast before his powers are ripped away.

However, we have seen that when Hiro teleports while touching someone, he brings that person too... Thus, since Arthur had his hands on Hiro's head, any attempt to teleport away might simply bring Arthur with him.

Poor Hiro may be screwed.... =(

-X

I don't think Arthur knows that Peter has Hiro's ability.
xeoh85
QUOTE (Alice20 @ Nov 11 2008, 10:39 PM) *
I don't think Arthur knows that Peter has Hiro's ability.


1) Arthur clearly knows how to use abilities immediately after stealing them.

2) He somehow got to Africa....which implies that he used Peter's (aka, Hiro's) ability to teleport himself there.
judace
QUOTE (JPW @ Nov 11 2008, 03:33 PM) *
I was thinking this is the part where Ando comes to save Hiro. It is from fear Ando finds out he always had a power he never understood it though.

So Ando lets out those Red sparks and Hiro and Ando escape. That was my view on it....

Ando always had a power... he's just never known how to use it and it's fear of his best friend being in trouble that he manages to use his power and save Hiro.

That could work but then much like Sylar and Peter Hiro has quite a fanbase and if he is killed off it could be a huge blow to ratings. Because people like Hiro and he has a purpose in the episode.

I think Arthur is going to steal his power and maybe Hiro's memory and that would be it. The other thing I guess is that at some point in time Hiro saw his future and has prepared a suprise trick.

Hiro needs to survive and I await for next episode to find out.



You know as unlikely as that theory is,
I like it! That would be a really good chain of events

Doubt it will happen though, unfortunately

QUOTE (xeoh85 @ Nov 12 2008, 06:49 AM) *
1) Arthur clearly knows how to use abilities immediately after stealing them.

2) He somehow got to Africa....which implies that he used Peter's (aka, Hiro's) ability to teleport himself there.



I dont think he teleported,
I think it was similar to the dream state visit he did with Angela
so he wasnt really there, IMO

QUOTE (xeoh85 @ Nov 11 2008, 10:44 PM) *
He might want to steal it to deprive Hiro of the ability, because it constitutes a threat to Arthur.

Although, he may just intend to neutralize him with a mindtrick.



In which case wouldnt he just kill him
theVOID
QUOTE (xeoh85 @ Nov 12 2008, 11:44 AM) *
He might want to steal it to deprive Hiro of the ability, because it constitutes a threat to Arthur.

Although, he may just intend to neutralize him with a mindtrick.


But would Arthur be able to take an ability that he already has?
nexusofpower
QUOTE (theVOID @ Nov 13 2008, 12:30 PM) *
But would Arthur be able to take an ability that he already has?


yes, he takes RCR from adam first and then Peter again

janjing
QUOTE (JPW @ Nov 11 2008, 11:33 PM) *
I was thinking this is the part where Ando comes to save Hiro. It is from fear Ando finds out he always had a power he never understood it though.

So Ando lets out those Red sparks and Hiro and Ando escape. That was my view on it....

love this theory! and how i hope that this is true!

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