This is my theroy on Arthur. I think that he is good. I believe that the eclispe will come and take everybody's power and the ones who had their power taken away (Peter, Mya, Hiro so far) will regain their power and defeat "The company" which are really the bad guys. Reasons for me thinking this? In the flasback episodes, it shows Linderman doesn't want to kill Nathan, but in previous episodes all linderman wanted Nathan for was to destroy New York City. This was Angela's hopes also. I think that Arthur can see this and wants Nathan dead before the destruction can happen. Another reason. Adam is evil and wants to destroy everybody for some reason. He takes Adam's ability, when it would have been much easier to tell Clair that Grandpa is alive and wants to meet her, but instead he wants Adam which Adam will know what he can do. After he takes Adam's ability, why doesn't he just take everybody's and cut out all the others? It seems to me that he is taking certain people's abilities. At the end of the Flashback episode, you see him taking Hiro's power. Well, he must already have that power or he is really fast because I thought he was in the US and suddenly he's in Africa so he really wouldn't need his ability. He takes it so Hiro can help peter later on. Also, I think Sylar has turned again for the worst. Arthur didn't take his power. He doesn't need sylar. He can do everything that Sylar can. I believe Arthur stopped Peter from falling to his death so that he can take down the company when the time comes.

What do you guys think? I know it would be a great twist with him being good and all but it would be just as easy for him to be a bad guy.

Okay for all intent and purposes, the company look bad. But its far from that actually, as they are policing evolved humans. They detain dangerous villains in level 5, so they don't cause mayhem in the world. That doesn't cast them as bad.

As for Arthur,.... well if you actually watch the last episode and listen to his conversation with Linderman(the one Angela actually hears). You will realise he was involved in the plans for New York,..... but this is at a time when the explosion is meant to be done by Sylar. Later f_Hiro comes back from the future to meet Peter on the subway. This changes things, and in the end results in Peter being the person responsible for the explosion.

Arthur is plain evil, and is infact using Linderman. He even threatens him about his usefulness. He realises Nathan will affect his plans,... and duely arranges the car crash which was meant to kill him. Father of the year stuff huh?

Actually, The Company locked up people like Steven Canefield with out giving them the benefit of the doubt. He accidentally killed someone when his abilities triggered for the frst time and they locked him up and threw away the key. Same for guys like Echo DeMille, they attacked him and his family and tried to kill them. When he fought back they locked him up on Level 5.

The only way The Company is good is that they lock up some real villains. Other than that they are evil.

I was just maybe thinking that since Angela can dream the future and has tight ties within the company's past and present, they are trying to keep them locked up so Arthur can't get to them. Then, when the time is right, they will release them to form an evil team. Because it is weird that they locked up the black hole guy after an accident, but they are provoking Syler to see what he can do in the flashback episode

Those are some interesting thoughts. I have never seen Arthur as the evil guy just because he controls the villains and has made some sacrifices. The fact is that all kinds of teams (against or not against the company) have made bad things.

We don't even now what Arthur is planning to do... And therefore we can't judge him. I believe we are a bit mislead since he stole Peter's power (because we know Peter as the good guy).
We also know that Clair, somewhere in the future, tries to kill Peter because he have made something. Arthur might just have prevented that from happening.

Shadow, they did lock him up. But after he had killed someone. You may see it as unfair as he isn't a proper villain, but even normal people who commit crimes by accident have to face prison.

The company polices evolved humans, and while sometimes they may be considered morally grey. They are without question trying to protect normals.

Not correct.
Look up mens rea (the Latin term for "guilty mind" – usually one of the necessary elements of a crime).

Black hole guy did not have the intent to kill anyone (or malice aforethought, as a prosecutor would say), so he could not be gulty of murder (1st or even 2nd degree).

He could be guilty of manslaughter, if he was grossly negligent or reckless in causing a person's death... But, since he had no reason to suspect that he could create a black hole, this is not likely.

Thus, the company locked up an innocent man. He may have caused the person's death, but no court of law in the United States could convict him of it.

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I think this is a unique perspective; Nathan could be destructive in a literal sense, he could also be destructive in legal sense (hence all the bickering between him and Dad in the flashback). I definitely like the point about Adam, being evil and all. As for Arthur's motives, I think they should be able to pivot perspective from good guy to bad guy, it makes him a better bad guy. I like rooting for "the bad-guys" but only if I can see it from their perspective.

The problem with Canfield is that he does fall into a morally gray area. While he was innocent, his ability was very dangerous; there's no guarantee he wouldn't accidentally kill others; all the control in the world doesn't mean he won't have a slip-up. So, you lock up an innocent man or you risk innocent lives. It's no win.

It's pretty clear Arthur is aware of the world splitting in half. That Nathan was working for Pinehearst, and he knew about it and told Peter it was 'okay'. You also have Peter trying to warn Arthur about it, but Arthur doesn't appear surprised at all and still snagged Mohinder to perfect the formula, despite being aware of where it will lead.

I call ultimate god complex. Destroying NYC to save the world isn't good enough anymore; Arthur has decided it's beyond saving and believes he's superior enough to make that sort of decision.

If Arthur was really that 'bad' he could end it all with Peter's abilities; time travel, telepathy and telekinesis alone would be enough to achieve whatever he'd like. Although, that wouldn't make for a very interesting show...

Your forgetting Maya's power. Arthur's ace in the hole.

I just had another thought to add to my original post. When P_Peter goes to the future, is there any mention of Arthur? I would think that if he had something to do with the future P_Peter saw, he would have greeted his son then, but all we see is Nathan as President. Maybe that was a future without Arthur and just Mohinder mixing up formulas.

The Haitian has already proved useful in the flashback episode, so he may be able to use it. But hes painting the future, and surely must have some card up his sleeve for him.

Gibby, think Predator laughing at Arnie at the end of P1. That's what I mean. If Arthur is on death's door he can take everyone else with him.

I think this is all going to depend on who catches who with their pants down first.

I don't rember that from Predator!!


"IF IT PEES, WE CAN KILL IT!!!"

interesting but he didnt take Hiro's ability, because he already has it (Peter had it)

but i like the idea that Aurthur is really good, he does seem to have goodness inside him, letting Angela go