They really need to take the writers and force them to re-watch the first season. A lot of them were using their abilities six months before the eclipse and many of them were using them years prior to that. The Eclipse cannot take abilities and it cannot give abilities.

Also take into account the fact that Adam lived for over 400 years and probably saw more then 1 eclipse throughout his lifetime, what would have happened if he lost his powers 200 years ago? would he not have aged rapidly like when he was killed by Arthur?

not to mention Hiro has already been through his second eclipse, and he froze time in the middle of it!

Well now they need the eclipse to give and take abilities so... they will just let it do it. -.-
Great huch? Makes fun seen the creators of a show ignoring their own plots the whole line.

Just because the eclipse hasn't given/taken away powers before doesn't mean it can't happen in the future. Also, in all of time, 6 months is not a long time. Maybe it just happens around the eclipse time. This eclipse could be more definitive and instantaneous. People need to stop accusing writers for things that haven't been fully explained yet just because it doesn't make perfect sense straight away.

maybe the eclipes just temperarily perspones the abilities and then magnifies them, makes them stronger so the people are more aware that the powers are there?

Well said, Carp.

Maybe Ando gets his powers from the eclipse? In an interview with writers on the CBR (Q & A) Someone asked What was the cause of the Future disaster to which they replied 'Red Lightning'. Now I am pretty sure they meant Future Ando's Ability, Right?

i guess they could mean that, or they could be refuring to soemthing else. But if Ando goes evil then Hiro's 'support' is gone. Hiro needs someone to believe in him and to help him with his quests in a way, Amndo is there for Hiro and Hiro is used to them helping each other up. If Ando wasn't there then maybe the future Hiro we saw in season 1 would emerge...

I don't doubt it.

Writers don't necessarily have to make mistake ppl. Because it takes away powers and manifests them doesn't mean it has to be permanent... Before the eclipse in S1 certain heroes were able to use it but witout control, after the eclipse they had. And obviousily before the eclipse in S! there were a whole lot of ppl using powers, still able to use them after (Bob, Angela, Arthur probably, Kaito, Adam, Elle, and probably more)... maybe it takes time to control it AGAIN.

The eclipse is important right now as the formula isn't perfected. But while the event will take powers, if Claire is caught by Pinehearst. The eclipse will matter no more, as it would just be a thing fixed by injection.

Claire never had problems controlling her ability and we hear "why is she not healing?" in the trailer. It might only count for the people who were injected with their powers. Altough it's unlikely Claire got her powers injected.

its possible that claire is injected. i have a theory about this and you can see the below thread for this theory.

http://www.got-heroes.com/Claire-3rd-part-...ula-t13750.html

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Shes wasn't injected, and while she may not heal. I'm curious if her blood will have the same effect? I think it might.

or maybe you need to re-watch the pilot...

the writers aint messing up evrything will prbaly be explained. i got a feeling once it passes peter will get his power back maybe

If you have seen the preview trailer to the next episode, you will know all the heroes and villains will lose their abilities after the eclipse. But they will all get them back, including Peter, courtesy of Mohinder's injection of the formula and with Claire as the catalyst.

This is what Arthur is working on and what he meant by saying 'Save The World'. He might actually be the good guy here.

Arthur by the sounds of things when Nathan left, wants to rule the world with his army of evolved humans.

He did not mention an army of evolved humans. Only that Nathan was the strong one and he is offering a chance for him to save the world together with him. To create a Petrelli leagacy.

The conversation was ambigiuous and if u look at it positively, instead of viewing Arthur as the bad guy. His mentioning of him having the forumla which can save the world might turn out to the possibility of returning the abilities to all heroes who have lost theirs during the eclipse, thereby preventing the butterfly effect of heroes losing abilities and altering the future...

nah cuz he wasnt expecting the eclipse as u can tell when he looked at that painting, i think his plan is very magneto(in the first x men film) turn everyone into to people with powers then when they reveal themselves they cnat be locked away or anything like that

Arthur believes that he is the "future" of the world and is definately NOT his intention to save it the world that it should be saved. He just pulls his thing through and everyone that is against it gets killed on his way. Nothing good there!
Why do you think he is totally against people that can see the future? Did you noticed that he said almost the same line to Angela and Hiro? He also killed Usutu immediately after he found him. The reason why? Because if the people find out how the future he wants to provide the world with occurs, it will be a VERY bad future to say the least.

As about the eclipse, maybe the ones in this topic that say "go rewatch the first season" or "nothing confirmed" should aknowledge that:

- the "natural" gifted heroes got them when the eclipse obviously occured (starting already by Adam)!
- the "made" ones, had them already since they were no natural abilities but rather injected (Nathan, Nikki and maybe D.L. as well).

So what we are talking about here is relevant

We still don't know what will happen in an eclipse. We don't know if it's gonna take away abilities or give new ones. I think neither of that will happen. I think what will happen is... something else...

Its already known to all that the eclipse will take away powers... Go watch the next episode's preview trailer dude...

The first eclipse in Genesis had power accelerating affects. So although Peter, Nathan, Niki, Claire and Sylar are already using their abilities six months prior to the eclipse:

- Peter starts to mimic his second ability- Flight- during the period of the eclipse
- Nathan flies for the second time ever
- Jessica, the personality who could actually use the super strength, comes back around the time of the eclipse
- The eclipse seems to make Claire's power grow, allowing her the aspect of her ability which allows her to "get over pain quickly" (i.e. which gave her the strength to rescue that man from the burning train wreck)
- Sylar's hunger from IA grows to the extent that he's willing to kill an innocent, non-evolved human, Chandra, just to continue his pursuit of abilities

And there are some who manifest at the time of the eclipse. People like Ted, Matt, Hiro and probably others like Isaac, Micah, DL and Molly could have manifested then

Agree! Very well put

As for Adam, if location is relevant (whether or not you're near where the eclipse is occurring), than Adam got lucky, lol. A total eclipse doesn't occur in the same spot again for like 371 years. We first see a healing Adam 336 years ago.

I don't think the writers have made any mistakes. Such mistakes as "previous eclipses have no effect" would have been to obvious to ignore without any logically explainations.

The eclipse have been one of the biggest symbols of the series, so they had it all planned from the beginning how it should affect the heroes. Consequently they have written all chapters with that in mind, and I'm sure everything will make perfectly sense when we know the truth.