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Got Heroes > Heroes: Episode Discussion > Season Three > Volume Three: Villains > 3x09 - "It's Coming"
judace
The test subject Mohinder was experimenting on was possibly the weakest Heroes moment I have seen since I initially started watching. Not only did he look like a (star trek extra) in a rubber suit,
but despite the reference to Aliens, with the subject pleading with Mohinder to "Kill me please"
I hated the whole scene and am becoming increasingly annoyed with Mohinder's character!

also why does a test subject for getting powers have to look like KRANG from The teenage mutant ninja turtles!
What were you trying to do, Mohinder??

Although the scales are getting a little worse visually,
The writers seem to be stuck as to what to do with his character
also 5 years in the future he had not changed that much
(not what youd expect from 5 years of evolution)
so it seems that the pace with his character will be very slow and tedious!
MrAdelphi02
Was the test subject that metal arm guy, the one Meredith and Thompson helped to capture??

And did Mohinder actually kill him, he went to give him an injection but i'm not sure if he injected him or not...

Imagine if Mohinder actually injected Peter before Sylar came to his rescue ohmy.gif
nexusofpower
QUOTE (MrAdelphi02 @ Nov 19 2008, 05:50 PM) *
Was the test subject that metal arm guy, the one Meredith and Thompson helped to capture??

And did Mohinder actually kill him, he went to give him an injection but i'm not sure if he injected him or not...

Imagine if Mohinder actually injected Peter before Sylar came to his rescue ohmy.gif


no, the test subject was the drugdealer from Episode 5 that Mohinder kidnapped, dragged into his apartment and put him into a cocoon
Mohinder definitely injected him, people don't actually die like that
Lupus
I have never liked the character Mohinder... I don't know why, but he is kind of annoying. Consequently, he gets even more annoying as a narrator in the ending of every chapter. Trying to be deep and philosophical.

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with the subject pleading with Mohinder to "Kill me please"

I could imagine even from the beginning of the scene that he would say "please, kill me". At the same time I thought: If he says that I'm going to throw up. And what happens. Yes I totally agree with you. The weakest moment ever.

There is only one scene I can remember that I also hate extremely much. That is when Claire's bio-mother comes to their house to live there for a while to protect them.
Without any reason at all, she put out her arm and show Claire her fire ability. I mean... That isn't even necessary, Claire already knows that, it was just awkward.
neddac
I agree with your 1st bit but...


QUOTE (judace @ Nov 19 2008, 05:44 PM) *
Although the scales are getting a little worse visually,
The writers seem to be stuck as to what to do with his character
also 5 years in the future he had not changed that much
(not what youd expect from 5 years of evolution)
so it seems that the pace with his character will be very slow and tedious!


We couldn't see him in the future but he had def mutated alot more. I think the way the scene was shot was to make him out to be (top) half man / (bottom) half snake like that yoke from the Golden Child whose Mother was raped by a dragon. (I'm not makin this up!!)

I don't think that the writers would be stuck on what to do with a character at this stage. Surely they're busy writing the next Volume if not finished.
MrAdelphi02
QUOTE (nexusofpower @ Nov 19 2008, 05:59 PM) *
no, the test subject was the drugdealer from Episode 5 that Mohinder kidnapped, dragged into his apartment and put him into a cocoon
Mohinder definitely injected him, people don't actually die like that



I honestly doubt it was that drug dealer....firstly because Primatech came to Mohinders apartment and took all the bodies away, secondly that drug dealer was black and I honestly doubt they would go through the trouble of making his skin white through visual effects just for two scenes...
moomin
Never really liked Mohinder and I admit his character got slightly more interetsing for me when he injected himself but now he's just as annoying because I don't see it going anywhere other than becoming some sort of bug man huh.gif
Though I find it really annoying when he just bursts into speech and talks about a load of science... I know he's a scientist and all that but it sounds just like a load of crap lol
Cruiser.I
QUOTE (MrAdelphi02 @ Nov 20 2008, 02:38 AM) *
I honestly doubt it was that drug dealer....firstly because Primatech came to Mohinders apartment and took all the bodies away, secondly that drug dealer was black and I honestly doubt they would go through the trouble of making his skin white through visual effects just for two scenes...


It IS the drug dealer. GO watch episode 5 again and compare the sweat shirt, the locks. The change in skin pigmentation is due to the mutation. Man, how can you even oppose the obvious...
Enemy of Reality
I can see why people would say this was a weak scene but it only really stands out in my mind because when I first watched it with a friend, we turned to look at each other and said “Dude, I’m sure he was black a few weeks ago”. Total LOL moment. I was more disappointed by the fact the guy’s mutation was so similar to Mohinder’s, I mean what does this imply, that everyone who gets injected with the faulty formula gets Mo’s ability (some kind of insect mimicking power?) but gets the deformities at different rates?

Oh and Lupus, do you seriously dislike Mohinder’s narrating? Each to their own, but I personally find his ‘deep and philosophical’ moments to be one of Heroes biggest highlights. No offence but how can you be a fan of a show that deals with the concept of good & evil and issues of morality and not be interested in the thought provoking narrative behind it? The fact Heroes incorporates ideas from religion (an example being how Sylar reflects the story of Lucifer), mythology (various similarities to Greek tragedies and stories) and philosophy (Arthur was even reading ‘Thus Spoke Zarathustra’ in episode 7 I think) makes it all the richer for it.
Lupus
It's more like I don't like mohinder as a narrator. And it feels like you hear some of the things he says all the time. What do you call it... Cliché? You know like "follow your heart and you will find your way".
I love the series because of the excitement and the unnatural things with all those powers. I have never been a fan of "reading behind the lines"-stuff.

When someone brings up a hidden line, I can discuss it and expand it a lot, and I start to see other hidden things between the lines. Many times I can go further than the person who actually saw that hidden line at first. But when it comes to finding those hidden lines by myself... I totally suck. I need that trigger, and then I can go on.

So I haven't really seen that you said about "concept of good & evil and issues of morality" until now. Well good/evil is more obvious, but not morality issues etc.
Spraguefan137
I've never been a fan of Mohinder, ever since the subway scene in season 1 when he didnt believe Peter's claim of Isaac having powers (so from pretty early on tongue.gif ). But his narrations are definitely a great part of the show.

As far as the test subject scene being weak, I don't think it was that bad. Just showing that they aren't getting anywhere with the formula, which is something that needed to be portrayed somehow, in my opinion. Hopefully he doesn't get a cure and his character has to go into hiding, that way i dont have to see him anymore wink.gif

At the very least I just wish he'd freakin move out of Isaac's loft! I'm new here so I don't know who else has noticed this, but who gave him the right to start living there?? He isn't cool enough to steal such an awesome character's place! First his father's apartment, then isaac's loft, now Pinehearst's lab. Go and buy your own home suresh..
wrenchninja
QUOTE (Cruiser.I @ Nov 20 2008, 12:00 AM) *
It IS the drug dealer. GO watch episode 5 again and compare the sweat shirt, the locks. The change in skin pigmentation is due to the mutation. Man, how can you even oppose the obvious...


Unless you're joking. You ''GO watch episode 5 again and compare'', because I'm pretty sure Mohinder didn't make the effort to change the drug dealers earring from a little diamond knob to two rings. And Mohinder didn't rapidly age, so why would the drug dealer all of a sudden have a gray beard and more wrinkles? Also, just whole his face is diffrent man, and yes I know he's mutated but it's still so easy to see the diffrence. But anyway does it really matter who he is. it's just somebody they picked up from the street, it's not really that important. Anyway he sure isn't that drugdealer.

But I don't know if you where joking anyway, if you where serious then you'd might want to think again because ''The change in skin pigmentation is due to the mutation. Man, how can you even oppose the obvious...'' uhm.. isn't mohinder quite tanned? and I don't see him suddenly being white... ahh well.
Cruiser.I
QUOTE (wrenchninja @ Nov 20 2008, 11:48 PM) *
Unless you're joking. You ''GO watch episode 5 again and compare'', because I'm pretty sure Mohinder didn't make the effort to change the drug dealers earring from a little diamond knob to two rings. And Mohinder didn't rapidly age, so why would the drug dealer all of a sudden have a gray beard and more wrinkles? Also, just whole his face is diffrent man, and yes I know he's mutated but it's still so easy to see the diffrence. But anyway does it really matter who he is. it's just somebody they picked up from the street, it's not really that important. Anyway he sure isn't that drugdealer.

But I don't know if you where joking anyway, if you where serious then you'd might want to think again because ''The change in skin pigmentation is due to the mutation. Man, how can you even oppose the obvious...'' uhm.. isn't mohinder quite tanned? and I don't see him suddenly being white... ahh well.


Well mohinder isn't mutating at that fast a rate. We dun see mohinder as disfigured and having the tenticles like fingers like the test subject. He might have done something to him to speed up the testing. but u may be right that he could be anyone they pull off the street. but at least for now, the drug dealer seems to be the most obvious candidate, based on the blue sweat shirt and the locks.

and i dun think his identity will be clarified at all so lets drop this discussion and enjoy the last 4 episodes in this volume...
Raekon
Mohinder probably didn't mutated as fast and as bad as the dealer due to his antibodies which everyone seem to have forgotten in the meantime! tongue.gif

spoonie
QUOTE (Lupus @ Nov 19 2008, 06:20 PM) *
There is only one scene I can remember that I also hate extremely much. That is when Claire's bio-mother comes to their house to live there for a while to protect them.
Without any reason at all, she put out her arm and show Claire her fire ability. I mean... That isn't even necessary, Claire already knows that, it was just awkward.


I'm with you there! It was a cheesy 'trademark' moment, a carbon copy of when Claire first met her. I felt the same when Micah stumbled upon Tracy at Nicky's wake and said "Mom?? ...you're not my mother". Exactly how it was said to Candice in season 1 when she was posing as Nicky. It was pure unadulterated cheese!
judace
QUOTE (Lupus @ Nov 19 2008, 06:20 PM) *
There is only one scene I can remember that I also hate extremely much. That is when Claire's bio-mother comes to their house to live there for a while to protect them.
Without any reason at all, she put out her arm and show Claire her fire ability. I mean... That isn't even necessary, Claire already knows that, it was just awkward.



LOL, definitely annoying and completely unnecessary I agree
its almost like she said I havent done anything for a while, hmmn ah,
Look everyone I can do this, remember!

QUOTE (Cruiser.I @ Nov 20 2008, 04:41 PM) *
Well mohinder isn't mutating at that fast a rate. We dun see mohinder as disfigured and having the tenticles like fingers like the test subject. He might have done something to him to speed up the testing. but u may be right that he could be anyone they pull off the street. but at least for now, the drug dealer seems to be the most obvious candidate, based on the blue sweat shirt and the locks.

and i dun think his identity will be clarified at all so lets drop this discussion and enjoy the last 4 episodes in this volume...



Nice signature Pic!!!


Stop arguing though or no dinner for either of you!
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