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In Peters vision, he is the "exploding man", how will this vision come to be??? We already know he inserts himself into dreams as the character with the powers...how will this play out...and will it actually happen?? blink.gif huh.gif wink.gif


Aerdna
What I find weird about Peter's dream is the way the other heroes are reacting to him. If it's really the eyes of Ted he's looking through in his dream, why would Simone be running up to him? Why would Claire run up to him and say 'sorry'? And why would Nathan run up to him and try to save him?

Since Peter looks like he's heading to Nevada where all the nuclear testing is being done and will most likely run into Ted, that's probably where he's going to absorb Ted's radiation ability and explode in New York. Also, Ted is/was having difficulty controlling his ability, and since Peter absorbs pretty much everyone's power, he's going to have a hell of a time trying to manuver that one ability, which is where Claude comes in. The question is, will Claude help Peter in time before he explodes, or will Peter just not go to Nevada?
Jester77
It's an interesting dilemna, I'm not exactly sure how the whole exploding man will play out but then again if Hana works with Ted, Ted may be able to learn from Hana and be able to control his powers better
Aerdna
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It's an interesting dilemna, I'm not exactly sure how the whole exploding man will play out but then again if Hana works with Ted, Ted may be able to learn from Hana and be able to control his powers better


It looks to me as if she's sort of recruiting him to go nuke HRG. Not sure if that should be considered a good thing or a bad thing...
Jester77
Well nuking one person wouldn't necessarily work since everyone around would probably be killed as well but I'm excited to see how this storyline will play out
heromaxine
I agree that Ted and Hana will be working together. Hana is full of revenge and she will help Ted find HRG and I don't think that she cares that everyone else might get nuked in the process as long as HRG gets his. Her reason for living right now to get that revenge on HRG.

Not sure who Peter was on the phone with when he talked about Nevada and what exactly his purpose is in going there, if he is. Does Peter know that Ted is there? How? When he's on the phone is when he sees Claude steeling the money and they have their first meeting. Peter apparently follows him to his apartment and they have the conversation that we see in the preview of The Fix. Peter wants to know why Claude is following him and Claude explains that he is not much of a people person but that he is not going to let Peter kill them all since Peter seems so sure of the pending explosion. Peter says Claude can help him control it. I assume her he means the power. Now, if he were just on the phone talking to someone about Nevada, then meets Claude, he couldn't have Ted's power yet, could he? Was he ever near Ted at the police station? He would only have to get near Ted to get it. One of the things that Claude is suppose to teach Peter is to be able to call on these various powers that he has obtained from others when he needs them.

And from the rest of that conversation, learning to control the power is not going to be easy. Claude says that Peter might consider dying that it would be easier.

Now I think that maybe Peter and Ted are going to have a confirtation on the streets of NYC. But why? Is it possible that HRG is there for some reason? We know he goes to see gone to see Mohinder at some point. Could HRG have an office there or his boss have an office there? Maybe this is where Hana "finds" him and that would be the reason Ted would go there to "nuke" him along with a few million other people (colaterial damage). But I think that Claude will have taught Peter some things by then as to how to control the power and Peter will "stop" the explosion by absorbing it into himself.

This probably isn't going to happen for a while yet. I read somewhere that the actor that plays Ted is under contract until and up through Chapter 14. So we may not see this confirtation until then.

I do think that Ted will be toast as of their meeting. Ted is the actual exploding man but Peter will absorb him and all his power into himself. I think that is why we see Peter as the black figure behind the smaller red hot exploding man in Isaac's painting. And Hana will have to look for another way to get revenge on HRG.

And all those dream sequences where Peter thinks he's exploding is really him absorbing Ted's power and the power of Ted exploding. I think that the explosion that we see may just be a smaller one rather than a big all out nuclear one. This could explain some of the other images that we see. Or it may not happen at all if Peter gets there in time and because of the warning by Hiro they have actually changed something in the "present/future" in the time/space continum.

I think that the other heroes may be running away and Claire saying, "I'm sorry" because they are all running away because Peter tells them to while Peter is running toward Ted. I think that she is sorry because of her fear/being unsure of herself and she thinks she isn't strong enough of a hero to rush in to save the day like Peter. She's sorry that Peter has to be the one to save them all and her again. Of course, we don't know, just speculating here. Of course, we only saw the heroes there in Peter's dream sequence and we really don't know that it will take place like that. if at all. Why would Matt the in NYC? Has he come there because he has been following HRG? We know he intends to try and find out what is going on and he knows that he and the Haitian are involved. In the preview of The Fix we see Janice complaining to Matt that he is just going to go off and chase some guy who works in a paper factory in Texas. So we figure that he is going to be watching and following HRG to see what he's doing and what he's involved in. Maybe he will eventually follow him to NYC.

That's pretty much how I think its going to play out with Ted and the explosion in NYC.

We know from future Hiro's visit to NYC, that the explosion was to happen on Nov 8 which on the show, it should be getting close to that time, right? Is time happening at a pace of one episode as one day? Sometimes it certainly seems like that but other times its hard to tell. We know that Peter had been in the hospital for two weeks in a coma before waking up on our last episode, The Godsend. So it will be interesting to see if one day has passed when we pick up Monday night. Has anyone tracked this time thing? When was Charlie killed? When was Homecoming? How close are we to Nov 8?









DCSimian
As of the last episode, I think we're three weeks away. Peter was probably talking to a travel agent or someone that could book him a flight out to Nevada. I think he just wanted to isolate himself from everyone so he wouldn't absorb powers and wouldn't be anywhere near NYC or any other populated metropolis if he did.
Hero in Waiting

I believe Nevada, Texas and New York will be the back drop for the majority of the remainder of the show...

Being a Nevadan, this is cool. I just wish they'd have wider screen shots to see some the better landmarks....unless they're filming elsewhere and pretending it's Nevada.

Just my two cents...(speaking of which, pennies may soon be valued at 5 cents each, so that would be 10 cents)

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Aerdna
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I believe Nevada, Texas and New York will be the back drop for the majority of the remainder of the show...

Being a Nevadan, this is cool. I just wish they'd have wider screen shots to see some the better landmarks....unless they're filming elsewhere and pretending it's Nevada.

Just my two cents...(speaking of which, pennies may soon be valued at 5 cents each, so that would be 10 cents)

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Yeah, they definitely do not shoot in the actual locations. I think they shoot all the scenes in LA or other places in the California. They even did the New York dream sequence in LA...
Hero in Waiting
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Yeah, they definitely do not shoot in the actual locations. I think they shoot all the scenes in LA or other places in the California. They even did the New York dream sequence in LA...


Bummer...on scene would be great....expensive....but great.....

I think I recall seeing a NYC scene at Universal Studios...and they are part of NBC now, right?

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Jester77
Yeah it's filmed mostly in LA and I believe Universal Studios like the scenes filmed in India were actually filmed in California
Hero in Waiting
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Yeah it's filmed mostly in LA and I believe Universal Studios like the scenes filmed in India were actually filmed in California


Next I bet you'll tell me these things are just fiction....that they're not really happening....gosh you guys are killjoys...

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Jester77
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Next I bet you'll tell me these things are just fiction....that they're not really happening....gosh you guys are killjoys...


No of course it's happening this show is based completely on true events
Red
First of All we can't be definitive that the Exploding man IS Ted.

I like to see him use his Fusion Balls at least once. Does he cast it like a spell or fires it like a Blast like DBZ.
Jester77
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First of All we can't be definitive that the Exploding man IS Ted.

I like to see him use his Fusion Balls at least once. Does he cast it like a spell or fires it like a Blast like DBZ.


Well at the moment my best guess is that Peter will be the exploding man

How do we even know that he use Fusion Balls? laugh.gif Ted works basically like a nuclear explosion, I don't think he could do it DBZ style
Red
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How do we even know that he use Fusion Balls? laugh.gif Ted works basically like a nuclear explosion, I don't think he could do it DBZ style
Radiation Balls, Nuke Balls, rolleyes.gif I would like to see it like that so it's masculine rather than a Feminine Spellcasting like Charmed.
Jester77
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Radiation Balls, Nuke Balls, I would like to see it like that so it's masculine rather than a Feminine Spellcasting like Charmed.


I kind of don't like the idea of Ted emitting radiation balls, I prefer that radiation just emits from him, like in the scene in episode 16 when he went to go visit his wife's grave and everything was dying around him
Supergirl
Yeah that looked cool, Ted's an interesting character for sure. I thought Peter coming into contact with him, was going to cause Peter to explode, because his abilities were unstable.
Jester77
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Yeah that looked cool, Ted's an interesting character for sure. I thought Peter coming into contact with him, was going to cause Peter to explode, because his abilities were unstable.


Are you saying that Peter and Ted have met or not? I'm a bit confused blink.gif
Red
No they haven't, BUT Peter was planing to go to Nevada, where Ted was hiding.
Jester77
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No they haven't, BUT Peter was planing to go to Nevada, where Ted was hiding.


What when was this? Though even if Peter went to Nevada he most likely wouldn't have met Ted since Ted was hiding out in a shack in the middle of the desert
Red
(12,6,3) Peter just needs to be in close Proximity, so he could be Flying around the desert and passess Ted's Hide out then Peter goes Boom.
Jester77
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Peter just needs to be in close Proximity, so he could be Flying around the desert and passess Ted's Hide out then Peter goes Boom.


Well I would think that they Peter would have to be closer to a person than that. Like in the same room not flying over a shack
Jerub-baal
This topic hast fallen. Ted was one of my favorite characters...that rather sexy scruffy look didn't hurt for sure, but he was a well-written character, with a wonderful arch and a sadly tragic fate- like a small Shakespearean tragedy within this very whizz bang show- some real character development.

RIP Ted. Ted's dead, baby,Ted's dead.

Now, the question that must be asked(why? Because I'm bored?)! If he's running around making mini-Hiroshimas, how come he never got cancer or was hurt by his 'sploiding deal?

Note: PSEUDO SCIENCE ALERT! THOU HAST BEEN WARNED!

I think it has something to do with the "Burn bright, not hot" incident at Primatech where he EMPed out the lights
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See, Electromagnetic pulses come in two varieties. The first one is a huge burst of short duration of electromagnetic energy. The second is the one I think we are working with- electromagnetic radiation(in the real world usually coming from a very big, very nuclear explosion) The resulting electro-magnetic fields interact rather harshly with electrical and electronic systems to create surges that then disable said systems. Considering how techie modern war is, you can see why almost every nation is heavily developing EMPs.

The second one is using photons, scattered about to create a reaction with photoelectrons and other nasty little particles to create an intensely fluctuating magnetic field.

To me this shows that he has really powerful and precise control over particles from atoms down to photons.

With that said, my postulation out there, how is he unaffected?

Well, if he can control these particles when they are not part of his body mass- for example, the little fireworks show during Company Man before the big boom finale seems to have come from energy(I say in the form of certain particles and reactions of particles down at that level) inside of him directed to his hands and then let out. All the other incidents show the same thing-the NY destroying bomb starts inside a person and is let out, the physical contact with the glass of water makes it boil, etc.

So it would have to be subconcious and below visibility- microscopic at most.

But...

With that said, I propose that Ted...is a human radiation Faraday Cage. It's the only thing that makes semi-sense, even though I have little idea of how it would work. His body would have to be radically and noticeably different- more like the venerable and esteemed cockroach, and protect him from thermal, beta and gamma burns, not to mention the pure explosive force!

If you want a protected Ted who looks like Ted the human, not Ted the pet cockroach, it's a bit harder-

If he created something similar to the effect of Potassium iodide(KI) that could help protect the thyroid from all that radioactive iodine he would ingest. Though it wouldn't do anything for the rest of the body, and a healthy thyroid while you die of lung cancer is useless. The dose he's receiving could also be very precisely fractionated- many smaller doses over larger amount of time, as opposed to one big dose or being subjected to continuous irradiation without a break, which would give the body less time to repair the damage. It has been shown that this could help, as a group of irradiated cells with a dose increase, the number of surviving cells falls. This is obvious. However, if a population of cells is dosed before being set aside, without being irradiated, for a while before irradiation again, there is less cell death. Other countermeasures or protections include something causing the effect given by the vegetable caterpillar of Nepal, some work showing that it protects bone marrow and digestive systems of mice from whole body irradiation. Or...maybe he's hitting the juice! 5-androstenediol to be exact, or a form of it produced by his own body systems, which induces production of white blood cells and platelets, making it so valuable that it was developed as a radiation counter measure- Neumune, for a while.
Jester77
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Now, the question that must be asked(why? Because I'm bored?)! If he's running around making mini-Hiroshimas, how come he never got cancer or was hurt by his 'sploiding deal?


Though your explanation is scientific and in depth I think that it is simply because those with abilities cannot be hurt by their own abilities...such as when Meredith (Claire's biological mother) uses her ability she doesn't get burned just like when Ted uses his power he doesn't give himself cancer
FabledJables
Hmm, go with the long scientific explanation, or the simple answer? I like the though process in Jerub's explanation, and agree with it rather than the other. Also, who says the can't hurt themselves if the didn't want to.
Jerub-baal
But...but I like overthinking things! happy.gif

Actually, my friend Chevyjock(waiting for him to get off his bum and join here) had a wonderful explaination for pyrokinesis ala Meredith Gordon. (I cut out some of his speech)

"a persons ability stems from the need to advance and survive/to overcome a situation or occurence that may apprehend life, causing death or extinction.
AKA - Evolution
AKA - Everyday skills and abilities needed to live...

So now I'm here.

So, rather then start on one of my newer ideas for an abilty, lets go with pyrokinesis.

Or fire manipultaion.

Let's take what we saw Meredith do... light a cigarette, create a flame in her hand...

Ok, so the 'how?'

It is possible that her body creates and secretes through the pores of the skin two chemicals, we'll say hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide.(courtesy of wiki), that when combined, they create a flame. He skin is protected by a third chemical, vaseline like, that makes her impervious to the flame catching her skin. The reason I think vaseline like, is because it can also be used as tinder when coated on cotton balls. The combination can easily be ignited by a fire starter, burning hot and long, but the petroleum keeps the cotton from getting wet. If the cotton ball is protected, then so should the skin.

However, she cannot throw fire balls, because there's nothing to sustain the flame once it's left the chemicals. No 'fire streaming' from the body, again, she cant 'shoot' the chemical outward. Also, theoretically, she could ignite her whole body, similar to Johnny Storm, minus flight and superspeed.

Again, however, her clothes would burn off; unlike Claude, she cant manipulate her clothes too. She can't make them impervious as well, rational yes, possible... maybe if she extricated the chemicals from her body slowly and allowed her clothes to soak at home rather then wash them. But along the lines of 'she can't control her clothes,' therefore, when her clothes caught fire, she'd be naked after they burned away. Her hair was a funny thing... hair has natural oils (I've seen the commercials, you have too) that could theoretically produce the same seelant as vaseline-like properties. Downfall; her eye's would have to remain closed, the pores on her eylids blocking the fire from scorching out her eyeballs (which produce nothing of the sort of chemical needed to stay impervious, minus tears).

Now the 'why not manip? she burned down her house...'

Well, we don't know she shot fire from her hands... maybe she fellasleep, cigarette in hand and it fell onto the rug. we aren't sure she started the firewith her abilities even. If she did, however, then if she can manipulate fire. Why not cause the flames to burn out?

But, the only thing to dissprove my theory, one of many actually I'm sure, is why she doesn't have really bad rosatia on her face and arms... if the body is secreting all these chemicals to produce a chemical reaction starting a flame, why aren't theses 'natural' oils clogging up her pores, causing bad acne or blackheads. Or is it because she has that kind of control over her bodies chemicals that she can keep it 'clean, clear and under control...'

Ok, so that's the first af many 'realism, loosely used' way's I'm explaining how a person with the ability to spark a flame works. It's my version, so to speak, and in my head make's sense. Also fitting with the idea that the brain controls it, it's a heightened ability to 'sweat' I suppose.
She's not a venom spitting cobra with methane ducts in place of poison and an electric eel type surge in the back of her throat to spark a flame, afterall.

FUN FACT HOWEVER - All mammals produce large amounts of methane in the intestines.. now if they could channel it to their skin and spark...uh oh... "

Smart guy^

thalie913
I would like to see Ted smiles one day! huh.gif
rocky55
i miss ted sad.gif sad.gif
Archis
he was a good soul
rrichiee
but alas, good ole Ted managed to find his own way to Peter with the help of Mr Bennet and Matt
leggi
his death was tragic... maybe he should have just escaped or stayed hiding or something
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