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Jester77
Episode 2.03: Title Unknown
Airdate: October 8, 2007

07/19 - Ali Larter added: "We are shooting the third episode right now, and they're amazing. They're introducing new characters. You know, the writers on our show are so creative, and they've just are unleashed. So it's great. People are going to be really into it." Source: Sci Fi Wire
TelekineticRenegade
As long as they don't have too many new characters. If there's a lot then there will hardly be any screen time for each of them, and that hardly leaves room for character development. dry.gif

Hehe. Strike face.
Aerdna
So it's almost like watching the pilot over again with new characters...I hope they don't overwhelm the show.
Jester77
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So it's almost like watching the pilot over again with new characters...I hope they don't overwhelm the show.


I agree, I'm actually a bit nervous about it to be honest, I don't want them to ruin the show
Raekon
I don't think they will since most of the reccuring characters and even regulars(like Isaac, Simone) might not be in the show for long.

Some reccuring came only for 2 - 3 episodes (Jackie,Charlie, Sanjog, Chandra Suresh, Nikkis friend, Lindermans mobster that got killed by jessica and more), some guests only for 1 so they can be killed (Zane, Dale, Sylars Mother) and so on....

So I guess we will probably get lots of "cannon fodder" for Kane, the Mobsters and Sylar again. dry.gif
Jester77
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Some reccuring came only for 2 - 3 episodes (Jackie,Charlie, Sanjog, Chandra Suresh, Nikkis friend, Lindermans mobster that got killed by jessica and more), some guests only for 1 so they can be killed (Zane, Dale, Sylars Mother) and so on....

So I guess we will probably get lots of "cannon fodder" for Kane, the Mobsters and Sylar again. dry.gif


That is the most likely though with Sylar and HRG they were never supposed to become cast members and they have so I'm worried that they'll introduce all these new characters and they'll end up sticking around for a while
TelekineticRenegade
I really love Zachary Quinto and all, but if he somehow just keeps surviving, and they never defeat him, I'm going to be extremely pissed. It just shouldn't work that way.
Jester77
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I really love Zachary Quinto and all, but if he somehow just keeps surviving, and they never defeat him, I'm going to be extremely pissed. It just shouldn't work that way.


Yeah Sylar was great for a while but now he either needs to die or redeem himself..
Raekon
I'm kinda sure that Sylar will be the one that loses his memory and that will be probably the "excuse" why he accepts kane as his mentor. tongue.gif

I would love to see candice make him believe that he is drinking mountain dew while he is drinking poison or similar. tongue.gif
That would be the most hillarious way for a villain like him to die like:

Drinking, "huch??" drops dead with the ? written allover his face while candice and micah are eating chips together enjoying the "show" (at the same moment Nikki and Molly cooking pasta in the kitchen not even caring what happens in the living room). ^^

Anyway.... in a more serious way, I agree with you guys that it gets tiring introducing interesting people like Dale only to let them get killed by sylar the whole time so he can increase his "power tricks". -.-

I really hope that the writers won't get the viewers pissed by redoing this but will rather use sylar in a other way.
Jester77
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I really hope that the writers won't get the viewers pissed by redoing this but will rather use sylar in a other way.


That's why I would love for him to lose his memory and redeem himself even if just for a brief moment, I just think it would be interesting
Aerdna
I agree, they really need to kill Sylar off for good or move his character in a completely different direction. Brain-stealing gets pretty tedious and annoying. *waits for Sylar fangirlz to attack* tongue.gif

But people like Sylar who want to be high and mighty make me think though...after they've obtained the amount of control they want, then what?
Jester77
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But people like Sylar who want to be high and mighty make me think though...after they've obtained the amount of control they want, then what?


They completely break down and end up leading themselves to their own demise
TelekineticRenegade
Hooray for their demise!
I think Sylar should redeem himself.
And then die and be with his mummy.
I think that Sylar should somehow end up helping the Heroes. That would be really cool.
Jester77
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Hooray for their demise!
I think Sylar should redeem himself.
And then die and be with his mummy.
I think that Sylar should somehow end up helping the Heroes. That would be really cool.


Maybe he could pull a Snape laugh.gif
Gargy
QUOTE(TelekineticRenegade @ Jul 25 2007, 04:50 PM) *
Hooray for their demise!
I think Sylar should redeem himself.
And then die and be with his mummy.
I think that Sylar should somehow end up helping the Heroes. That would be really cool.



That sounds awesome...but, who put him in the illusion............because Candice is dead.......(Missy will be on The Reaper on The CW this fall)!! cool.gif
Jester77
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That sounds awesome...but, who put him in the illusion............because Candice is dead.......(Missy will be on The Reaper on The CW this fall)!! cool.gif


Maybe it's because Sylar is "dead" that he is having illusions or what not either that or Kane or someone is doing that to him
Supergirl
I am pretty sure, well I get the feeling anyway we'll be seeing a different Sylar.

I have to agree though, I hope they don't add heaps of new characters and end up ruining the show. Although they did add Jack Coleman as a regular during Season 1, but can you blame them? His character became such an important part of the show. And well Zachary is amazing, how can you not want him to stick around? lol
Jester77
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I am pretty sure, well I get the feeling anyway we'll be seeing a different Sylar.

I have to agree though, I hope they don't add heaps of new characters and end up ruining the show. Although they did add Jack Coleman as a regular during Season 1, but can you blame them? His character became such an important part of the show. And well Zachary is amazing, how can you not want him to stick around? lol


Well the thing is that with HRG there was so much available for them to do with his character so the writers took the opportunity but after a while there will be only so much that they can do with Sylar until it gets a bit too redundant
Supergirl
Which is why I think there might be a change with Sylar. He sure looked funny in a hawiian shirt hehehe
Raekon
Some new spoilers about the episode:

8/21 — HeroSite releases information about episode three, including the title, airdate, writer, and director.
8/19 — Tohoru Masamune will appear in the third episode, according to IMDb. Hiro's boss's name? Mr. Egami.
8/14 — IMDb reports that Héctor Luis Bustamante's character is named Garcia, and will be joining the show in the third episode.
Jester77
Oh wow that's a lot of new characters for one episode
Sylaire
*starts attacking the people who want Sylar to die!* ....muhahahaha

My Theory ~

The Claude Rains is working for the main bad guy! He will drag Sylar from the spot that he appeared to be dead (of course no one could see him wink.gif ) Since he worked for "The Company". Whose to say that he isn't under a bigger influence? What if Kane could see him, and Kane taught him how to teach others to control there Abilities... perhaps so that one day Claude could inform Kane on there powers and whereabouts.


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Candice Wilmer (who is alive, come on, she could make anyone see what she wanted, even to look like she was dead) will be working for the main bad guy Kane, who use to control the Linderman Corporation. When you control the Linderman Corp. you also control his employees like Candice.

From Wikipedia:
"In "Landslide" Candice implies that her normal appearance (the one portrayed by Missy Peregrym) is also an illusion when Micah says " I have a cousin who eats like you...he's huge," to which she replies, "So am I." She also lectures him on how others judge by appearance. However, when Niki knocks her unconscious in "How to Stop an Exploding Man" while she is disguised as Jessica, Candice reverts back to her appearance as portrayed by Missy Peregrym."

My Response ~ Candice isnt dead, our she would have changed into the person that she is. Not the girl that she makes everyone think that she is. Even if she was knocked unconscious all her mental ties to her powers should have been broken, thus showing a knocked out Candice (in true body) on the floor ^^


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Sylar on a tropical island "So none of this is real?". Sylar may believe that he is in heaven, but he is not. Candice is possibility putting him threw mind games. She said she could show you things that would make you ripe your eyes out. Why not show the recently lost memory Sylar all the past things that he has done. Do a few fake head coming off scenes (Candice playing sylar) .. It would totally mess him up, and he could see the person that he was, and want to be someone better.... Road to redemption much? AND why does the girl in front of him look alot like the back of Claire's head? (Shipper moment!) What if it was claire? In a since... Showing a newely lost memory sylar a vision of claire could put thoughts into his mind. Who is this Claire, what does she know about him, and what part of his life she did play? (Darn my love for that couple is putting bad thoughts in my head!)

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Kane will be able to control bugs. What do bugs do... they spy on things right? A person that could control something as small as a nat could see were anyone was, at anytime he wanted. The references to the Cockroach is in relation to an infestation of the Heroes lives. Although I don't know what role he will play, I dont believe that he is the person that Molly is reffering to. I think Kane himself will also work for a higher up, whose powers are far greater then any... He can bring back the dead.... He could have brought back Sylar at the Company... that cock roach was there? Could it have been reporting what was happening to Sylar? Could it have told someone that Sylar needed strength to break out of the Company...so many questions... no answers till the show comes back.

Will those are my thoughts about Sylar and the characters that could be revolved around him.


*starts working on a fan fiction that would go in this direction for the show...*
Aerdna
Hmm...I had never thought about the cockroaches "spying" on Sylar, that's very possible.
Sylar's Lover
new to the site, hi.

i am panicing. I just went to IMDB, and it only lists Sylar as being in Four Months Later episode so far.

Haven't they already filmed like 4-5 episodes????


--- addicted to Sy--
Supergirl
I read that Sylar returns in this episode, if so why the heck is he in the preview for 2.02? *sigh* I need Sylar
lastxcallforsin
Maybe we will see a glimpse of him at the end of episode 2. In episode 3 he is supposedly going to kill Candice and lose his abilities. Wonder how he gets passed her illusions... Well Nikki did it so it probably won't be that hard for Sylar.
Supergirl
Well I found these at wiki, wiki is really unreliable so I'd say take em with a grain of salt

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Episode 3, Kindred:

* Sylar is still alive. He kills Candice Wilmer who had rescued him, but then to his shock he loses his powers.
* Peter is forced to help the criminals with a robbery and saves the gangsters by levitating an armored car and hurling it at the guards. He also discovers he has the power of shooting electricity from his hands.
* Mohinder saves the dying Haitian by injecting him with his blood.
* Niki joins the Company.
bignas1234
QUOTE(Supergirl @ Sep 30 2007, 02:42 PM) *
Well I found these at wiki, wiki is really unreliable so I'd say take em with a grain of salt


What do you mean by 'to his shock he loses his powers'????
Does Syler lose all his powers............
HaloHawk87
He said it was on wiki, which can be edited by anyone, so it could be made up. We'll just have to wait and see.
Supergirl
QUOTE(HaloHawk87 @ Oct 1 2007, 04:11 PM) *
He said it was on wiki, which can be edited by anyone, so it could be made up. We'll just have to wait and see.


Yep which is exactly why I said take it with a grain of salt!
perfectly-messy
QUOTE(Supergirl @ Oct 1 2007, 06:49 PM) *
Yep which is exactly why I said take it with a grain of salt!


haha maybe he loses his power when his eyes go white last season. And if the Haitian is dying...then its fine with me, cuz the Haitian served his purpose, just make sure he let us know his name before he dies
spanky187
QUOTE(perfectly-messy @ Oct 1 2007, 12:31 AM) *
haha maybe he loses his power when his eyes go white last season. And if the Haitian is dying...then its fine with me, cuz the Haitian served his purpose, just make sure he let us know his name before he dies

Nah, the mystery of his name is cooler. Wouldn't take him seriously if he had some ordinary name rather then 'The Haitian'.
JessaMac16
I really like The Haitian he has so much mystery surrounding him. To be honest I'd rather not find out his name because it ruin the secrecy of him.
Where when HRG’s name was revealed I was so excited because I’d been waiting all year to find out what it was. Where as with The Haitian I’d rather not know.
OverDose_
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Sep 30 2007, 04:18 PM) *
What do you mean by 'to his shock he loses his powers'????
Does Syler lose all his powers............


Maybe Sylar can only use one power at a time, thus he takes hers and can't go back into reality and is stuck with hers (unstable.) Just a thought.
perfectly-messy
QUOTE(OverDose_ @ Oct 2 2007, 09:08 AM) *
Maybe Sylar can only use one power at a time, thus he takes hers and can't go back into reality and is stuck with hers (unstable.) Just a thought.


oh that would sucks...but then Sylar only even need 1 ability. Telekinesis smile.gif

But then nope....cuz in 5 years gone, he used more than 1 power at a time (he flies when he's using Candice's power to be Nathan)
compwarez
how do i know which spolier for eps. 3 is true?
davegclark
QUOTE(Aerdna @ Sep 14 2007, 09:47 PM) *
Hmm...I had never thought about the cockroaches "spying" on Sylar, that's very possible.


I always thought the cockroach "watching" Sylar was important/odd/interesting but could never make a connection to anything. Will be interesting to see if someone can control bugs...
gamecreator
The cockroach is a symbol of survival, especially in desperate times. Mohinder also calls cockroaches the "pinnacle of so-called evolution" in the very first episode, being ahead of humans in that respect. That Sylar survives that fight at Kirby Plaza is appropriately represented both by the cockroach's symbolism as well as how Mohinder described the insect in class.
freeman6
i cant belive those infos on wiki its just too wierd
Cloud43
The only thing I am looking forward to in this episode is seeing Sylar return.
The DOKTOR
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Jul 19 2007, 08:46 PM) *
Episode 2.03: Title Unknown
Airdate: October 8, 2007

07/19 - Ali Larter added: "We are shooting the third episode right now, and they're amazing. They're introducing new characters. You know, the writers on our show are so creative, and they've just are unleashed. So it's great. People are going to be really into it." Source: Sci Fi Wire

<<they've just are unleashed>> that sounds like Ali to me. Is it just me or Ali Larter seems to be the most boring person on earth?
Raekon
I really hope they don't kill candice and if they do then please don't let sylar do it cause actually it was spoiled before that he already lost all of his additional powers when he died at the end of the last episode in season one so it wouldn't make any sense to have them all back without getting them from others again only so he can be able to kill candice that is just standing there playing sitting duck. -.-
advo
I guess now we'll find out who's going to resurrect Sylar.
miloytheman
hmmmm... new cast members/characters... new brains... errrr victims... errr... powers for sylar hehehehe
Jester77
Sorry Raekon, I really didn't like Sylar going back to his murderous ways, I'm tired of the character
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