Anyone know what was up with that...

Guilt trip maybe? dunno...as far as he knows Pete's went thermonuke.

Thought I was looking at Freddie Kruger lol

I was thinking the exact same thing. OMG I said.

I'm wondering if thats how he really looks, due to the explosion, and he's trying to live normally. Or maybe it's how he thinks he looks, due to trauma from the explosion, which is part of the reason for his depression.

It's one of the two, he either really looks normal, and thinks he's scarred, or he's really scarred, and thinks he looks normal.

I think he looks normal but he thinks otherwise.
Ando bumping into Nathan and a few sec later Hiro's dad (forgot name at the moment) get that picture with the symbol (also dont know what the name of it is at the moment).
2nd time it happened with Mrs. Petrelli who talked with Nathan after he came into the appartment.
After she left she sees the picture with the symbol (in blood?) on her picture.
Both say it means they are going to die and say it is one of the others...
If Nathan is spotted 3rd time with someone of the older generation of Heroes it has to mean something..

PS. First post

silly me jumpped when i saw that lol

I think it has to do with the guilt for sure. He's got burn scars all over his face, and from anything I can gather, he tossed Peter and flew away when Peter exploded. So I think the reflection is how Nathan feels he should look, because he shouldn't have abandoned Peter.

He's gotta feel pretty damned tormented. Not only did he let the explosion plot go as far as it did, he's got his nasty mother harrassing him all the time about how if he had let NY explode, Peter would still be alive. Not knowing where his baby brother is, whom he undisputely loves, on top of his mom has to be hard. Knowing he survived and Peter 'didn't' is driving him crazy. Hence the drinking.

yep I think so too.
I remembered when Peter died during the 2nd Sylar vs Peter fight and after when Mohinder brought them to Nathans home he cried etc. and afterwards told him he didnt knew what he would be/do if Peter died.
Peter replying with that hes Nathan Petrelli and that he can stand on his own something like that etc.
Seems Nathan was right that if Peter died he would become what we have seen today.

I'm also on the guilt train, seems like a manifestation of it.

I definitely think it's just Nathan seeing something he thinks he should be in the mirror. I read in a couple of other threads that they think Niki's split personality thing was absorbed by Peter and transfered to Nathan when Pete was losing it, but I think that's too far fetched. Nathan's own personal view of himself could be driving him to drink, trying to match what he sees on the inside with the outside.

I think it has something to do with Nathan's father. Maybe Nathans father took control over him and is using him. I never thought his father was dead, and shouldn't Nathan be dead after that explosion? Hiros father said it was 1 of the 12 thats 9 now dat is doing it. I definitely think somethin is up dat ando bumped into Nathan and didnt recognize it was him. Something is up with nathan. Anyword on Sylar and the invisible dude?

HOW WAS NATHANS FATHER SUPPOSEDLY KILLED

Mr. Petrelli is supposed to be death by suicide. Nathan said to Peter that it wasnt a suicide although there has been no confirmation whether this is true or false.

What he should have looked like if he was anywhere near the bomb?

I think either how he thinks he looks like or he did looked like that when the bomb went off but recovered from that but I doubt that. Most likely I think is the first statement.

I think Peter told him to let him go and get away...hence the fact that he is still alive. If he had stayed with Peter we wouldn't really be seeing him

I'm pretty sure in my mind that Nate tossed Peter and flew away. We know he can fly fast like Superman, and I think he was banking on the fact that Pete can regenerate like Claire. Which he did, of course, but I think that not knowing where Peter is and assuming he couldn't regenerate from being imploded is killing Nate.

As for the transference of power from Pete to Nate? Stupid and impossible. Nate doesn't have the power to absorb anyone's powers. He flies. That's it.

I betcha their dad got killed by whoever sent the death messages to Angela and Kaito.

No one has thrown out powers yet...kind of surprising.


I first thoguht that maybe someone is covering him up, but he sees is true self...but no one else does?

I was freaked when I saw that! I honestly think that Nathan is going nuts! Also, whats happened to Niki, D.L and Micah?

Maybe he's drinking Moonshine.

Well if there's one thing I've learned with Tim Kring's Heroes, it's that you need to expect the unexpected... and if you expect it, it's probably not what it looks like.
I was thinking perhaps it was just Sylar imposed as Nathan again, but that wouldn't make sense since Sylar wouldn't be in a Pub drinking away his depression (and the future was altered and Sylar didn't absorb the shape-shifter's ability).

I wish it would stop showing Claire. Her character has gone from tolerable, to inconsistent, to irritating, and now I'm just getting sick of her repetition and teen melodrama. I mean, they can keep her, just stop showing her all teary-eyed in EVERY DAMN SCENE.

I've had moonshine before....you may not actually look like his reflection but you SURE DO FEEL like it.

we will get some info in next episode (I hope?).

As far as Nathan is...
Id go with the statement of minara

Mr. Petrelli killer = Hiro's dad killer VERY Likely
or
Hiro's dad killer = Mr. Petrelli (very unexpected but I doubt that.. You could tell the person is relatively young)

True enough, it's very likely that they were killed by the same person.

And I agree, Claire needs to stop being so angsty.

Yea

Claire's storyline is disappointing the most for me. Its just a recap of season 1 but Im pretty sure that Tim Kring will unfold it very well.

You do have to keep to remember that he wants to re-introduce all of the characters and new characters for the newcomers of Heroes and aswell making it interesting for the old ones.

I think he is dying due to peters radiation. I think the girl who can change peoples perceptions (make them see what isnt there) is working with him to help him hide his wounds from the public.
Anyways do we know if he has quit his job because he seems to have.

Why would Candice follow him everywhere making him look normal for?

I think its just how Nathan feels about himself...
He is probably an alcoholic now, and each time he looks at himself in the mirror, he hates himself..he feels like he is a monster for letting everything happen to his brother..

And no..Politicians shave their beards, and certainly dont get drunk in a bar on their own..he has quit

i think so too. guilt prolly forced him to throw everything away in exchange for booze.

He quit his job
Feeling guilty for letting Peter supposedly die.
And he sees himself that way its not how he looks now.
He may looked like that right after the explosion but not at the moment.

The image he saw looked more like peter with the half face burned off.
That might be the last thing he saw from peter before flying away to save himself after he shoot him up high.

After all he can obviously reach mach 3 and go out of the explosions range in no time.
I guess that peter than fall into the ocean, got found after he regenerated or while he did.
What happened from there is unknown but will probably be revealed at episode 8.

So in my opinion, the guilt he is feeling makes me see unexistant images and we think too much into it.

As to the comment about candice: I highly doubt that she is with nathan now and from what I saw and read so far the writers got lazy about her and will try to get rid of the character by letting sylar kill her somehow.

If that really happens though I must say that episode 3 won't make sense to me at all and will be one of the episodes I will dislike for ages. -.-

In that case I would rather had her involved with nathan by helping him or similar.

clearly you like Candice

But your reasoning is very well but an explosion happens in micro seconds... and even when your traveling faster then the speed of sound you still have to be away for some range.
I agree with the rest

Yep! I love her character and the chemistry she had with micah.

OFF TOPIC:
Ok, she might have been a bit immature but I don't blame her stance against Isaac cause what would you thought if you come in and see someone who just killed his own girlfriend (no matter if it was a mistake or not...)?
I liked her statement against isaac a lot "maybe you should had thought about that before you shoot her", "twice"!
She hates such people and to be honest she rather plays with them instead of really harming them(like sylar or others from the company did) even she can use her ability quite well.

ON TOPIC:
well peter were unstable but after the flew very high it took quite a time before he exploded from what we saw, in my opinion that was enough time for him to fly away.

yea but what I ment was. If Peter split or something with his spirit into Nathan then Nathan should at least be in his neighborhood when the explosion happened unless it happened before the explosion but Jessicas spirit went into Nikki the moment she died. Thats what I ment

Off Topic:
I didnt said she was horrible or something
Only saying that you could tell from your post that your a big candice fan

I think Candice should have a bigger role I do like her too

I didn't missunderstood your statement about candice no worries!
As about the "spirit thing" I think that nikki just was psychic unstable thinking that jessica is still there due to her split personality issue. That happens even people without abilities in our world.
Having blackouts in this case is normal since everytime the other personality you think calls your body it's "home" as well, you don't remember what it did unless you went into the same state afterwards or some marks are there.

In Nathans case it seems to me only as the guilt he is trying to clean away by drinking even I'm kinda sure that he knows that drinking won't help.

yay nathan now has jessica/niki's split personality! the split personality causes the new nathan to kill off hiro's dad and then fly off!

Nathan isnt the killer because Mr. Nakamura's statement nullifies that theory because he said : "Of all of them, I never expected it would be you.".
So there you go. We still dont know who the killer is but its defitenely not Nathan except if Mr. Nakamura knew Nathan and we didnt got to see that.

There are a lot of good theories, but I think I'm with the people who are thinking guilt. He's clearly blaming himself for Peter's 'death'. His mother certainly isn't helping the situation. How does she expect him to feel? Such a caring mother. And can anyone explain why she's blaming him? Why would Peter exploding NY have helped him to survive? I was a bit annoyed that they didn't explain how Nathan survived, but maybe they'll do that later. Maybe when him and Peter are reunited? And it was nice to see that Nathan does care about Peter. Can't wait till they're reunited!

And I'm also a bit bored of Claire. She seems to be in it more than anyone else on the show and at times it's like watching a soap. There are other characters which I feel are more compelling than Claire. I wish they'd have more screen time.

I agree.

And I love, love, LOVE that you have Jensen in your avatar. Dean Winchester = LOVE

Nathan is definitely feeling guilty over Peter's 'death' (Obviously we know he's alive but no one else does) and he's in denial about it. Plus he's become a bit of an alcoholic so he's seeing things whilst drunk.

Which Petrelli?

I agree with raekon, the person nathan saw in the reflection looked more like peter than nathan. i had to rewind it like 5x just to see if my eyes were playing tricks on me lol

Ok here is the reflection. It's most definitely Nathan.

Peter and Nathan's dad.

Dada Petrelli is dead, unless he's a ghost I don't think he killed Dada Nakamura.

I think it's got to do with guilt or it might be like Nikki and Jessica from season 1

but yeah I suppose it hardly looks like peter at all!

You know this still bugs me even though Peter hadnt "exploded" yet he was still giving off raw radiated power...

1st: The radiation alone shouldve killed Nathan, Sylar, Hiro, Niki/Jessica, and probably everyone who was in Kirby Plaza. (but I'll leave that alone I dont think we'll ever really know whats the deal w/ that particular mystery)

2nd: Radidation aside remember when Ted got shot and Matt couldnt touch him? When Claire stuck him with that needle she was being burned well before she even touched him. So wouldnt Nathan grabbing Peter up burn him as well? If Im not mistaken thats the side that wouldve been the side of his face that touched Peter when he flew off. (gotta rewatch the finale to know for sure)


I actually think Nathan shouldve been scarred, not as bad as what we saw but still...

I think that it's how he really looks. Maybe his mother used her power to cover it up....

1+2= if I remember correctly (like so many others, I'll have to rewatch the episodes) Ted wasn't really attempting to control his emissions. He was shot, he was in pain, he was giving off waves of radiation (iirc, looked like a fiery hurricane was going through the house ). Peter was trying very hard (at the expense of his other powers? "I can't do anything"? *shrugs*) to control his radioactivity. So maybe he was controlling it enough to not be putting out radiation.

And I personally think the Nikki/Jessica = Nathan/Peter theory is a little too extravagant and far-fetched
1) the normal eye in the reflection is obviously Nathan's eye
2) would it be Nathan or Peter in the reflection? Why would it be a scarred Nathan in the reflections? Better yet....why didn't Nathan jump or react like Nikki when he saw that? I think the guilt thing is the best explanation so far.

Also notice his ful beard is gone in the reflection...so even the unaffected side is changed

After reading the posts here, I thought it was strange that no-one mentioned the evil guy Molly keeps seeing. Here's a working theory (but probably wrong):
1...Sylar eats the brain of Candice and is working with the evil guy
2...Nathan is Sylar and is hell bent on getting back at Peter (that's why he's looking like Nathan and drinking all the time (he's biding time)) Nathan says to Claire (and Nathan proved in the last episode of season 1 that he truly, deeply loves her) on the phone "look i know you're looking for answers we all are...but trust me I am not the guy to give them to you"...it's Sylar!!! lol...the real Nathan wouldn't do that...Sylar can see anything he wants to...he's obsessed w/ Peter, hence the image in mirror
3...Sylar is killing these people (Mrs. Petrelli and Hiro's dad) as he's in cahoots w/ evil guy...I could easily be wrong here, but w/ Candice's powers...Mr. Nakamura could have seen anyone the evil guy told Sylar to show "of all of them, i never expected it would be you"
4...Evil guy's power is that he can do pretty much everything...not absorb powers, but is an alpha/omega power unto himself

Asides:
Claire is the new hot thing...nbc sell-outs are really starting to "superficialize" the show w/ Maya/Claire eye candy. I like attractive people, but how does it relate? We were promised all new story line...Cheerleader has been saved. But the suits "just love her" and need to give her good airtime. Gag. Just give Claire her own show on nbc and we'll see if she has depth. I'm thinking a professional in the in country--small town, comedy. We'll know after one season if she has talent. Comedy always exposes the pretenders. Her acting performance was hit and miss the 1st season (started strong, got weak in middle, then ended strong) I personally think she'll fizzle...she's going down the superficial track that middle aged white men have chosen for her...typical (see FHM cover...sad)
The evil guy's eyes (from Molly's drawings) has the symbol of kensai...it's all related to events of 1671...the eclipse is probably where the alpha dogs got their power.