So at the end, we see Peter in the box...how did he get there? Also, does the Haitian have ANYTHING to do with his loss of memory?

and why was he sent to Ireland, and why to those crooks, there didn't seem anything special about them ??

and now are we suppose to wonder why the Irish people were looking for something in a specific container?

Are they part of the shows story?

they were looking for Ipods

I think they have a role in the next few episodes.

I thought the memory thing was related to the fact he was basically vaporized and then made whole again. That begs the question who put him in the cargo container and according to the trailer how do those guys know who he is?

Wasn't the invisible man from somewhere round England?

the actor itself is from England I believe but that would suggest that the Haitian + Claude are part of a organisation together.. I doubt that (although it could be possible)

I dont know what power he used there? If it has to do with that girl who has something to do with electricity meaning he absorbed her power during those 4 Months.
If Peter would meet the Irish Mobster whos 1000 years old? would he gain his power too?
Far too much to speculate now.

Tim Kring made a big leap just to make us curious (obviously like any other episode) of what happened during those 4 months and alot can happen in those 4 months. I think he did this intentionally for people who hasnt seen Heroes season 1 so they can jump right away on the wagon and from now just like season 1 reveal more each episode with those annoying cliffhangers
But trying to also make it interesting for us the people who has seen season 1.

I think you can pretty much assume of how the next few episodes will be like just by judging on how the first few episodes of season 1 ended.

pilot of heroes vs ep 1 of season 2

Both ended with Peter involved ... (pilot flying and season 2 using an ability we havent seen anyone else do yet).
Started both with introducing the heroes AGAIN with showing their abilities (not too much though).

And there should be some clues which we could then recognize in the next few episodes like the Heroes symbol in scenes during the first few episodes.

This was just the opening ep, give the writers a break, I'm sure we'll get answers along the way.

Yea your right
As I said in my previous post in this topic.
Tim made a big leap to try and make us curious about what happened after the explosion of Peter.
Hes trying to reveal each tid bit of info till around ep 8 ~. Just so the newcomers will know what Heroes is about etc etc. But also trying to make it good stuff for the people who watched season 1. Its hard so it might seem boring in the beginning but thats what you get if try it that way.

I mean putting Peter at the end is something I kind of expected, the memory loss would explain why he wasn't around his family. He was also wearing the symbol on a necklace, so he's been up to something over the months. Hopefully it will be revealing in show, or at least in the online comics. What I disliked about the whole Haitian and Claude thing is that they just up and disappear. Something natural for, and explicitly stated by, Claude, but the Haitian just ferries Claire and is gone. I have no idea what sort of power Pete was displaying, but it looks like some sort of energy burst, but not radioactive like Ted's.

hmm im guessing peter will regain his memory sometime in the future since at season 1 episode 20 5 years gone, the future peter had his memories.

IN SEASON 1 WHEN PETER AND SYLAR WAS FIGHTING IN THE FUTURE SYLAR HAD DA BLUE LIGHTING

false. The blue lightning wasnt seen until now. The blue lightning you refer to are his ice cold hands like Peter's hand with Fire (Claire's biological mom).

Not necessarily, that was the future if the bomb would have gone off, and seeing as it didn't, the future won't be the same at all. If you tamper with one small thing in the past, you could change the future big style. If a bomb goes off, that's not a small thing, it's very much a huge thing, so it'd change a hell of a lot more

Have you noticed at the beginning of last night's ep, while we were hearing Mohinder's narration, we got a glimpse of Nathan on what seems to be the top of a destroyed Deveaux Building. I wonder what's up with that?
Is Nathan travelling in time? If so, maybe he caught on Peter's ''empathy''? Just a thought.

No I dont think so. He isnt traveling through time. But merely going to all the places Peter went since Nathan thinks for a tiny bit that Peter MIGHT be alive. Just to refresh his memories most likely about Peter's whereabouts.

Anyway, I don't really think Nathan could travel through time but that image is what intrigued me the most about last night's episode.

I think when Peter blew up he might have landed somewhere else like out in the ocean or another country....

Ocean most probably ..
another country.. no I dont think so.
I think he landed in the ocean and got picked up in the ocean and then transported somewhere near NY then some people found him and decided him to transport him to Ireland. Somewhere along that line.

Here is my take on Peter:

What if his body and mind\personality is split. He was close to Niki, what if he attached himself to his brother trying to cling to life like Jessica may have done when she died and it's not just a split personality thing. We saw a burned/damaged Peter in the mirror briefly, it may be a clue or it may just be showing us Nathan's grief. Nathan does act like he is being haunted, what do you guys think is he haunted by the memory or possibly Nathan himself?

memory is my thought.
First reason why I think so.
Jessica died and then put her spirit into Nikki.
Second reason is obviously that Peter didnt died.
Third reason is most obviously that when Peter exploded he wasnt near Nathan or else Nathan wouldve died in the explosion.
So it is unlikely that Peter's spirit like Jessica is in Nathan.
If it were true.. then there is actually in fact 2 Peters as Peter in Ireland can get his memories back.. and the other spirit is in Nathan? meaning there are 2 Peter Petrelli's and I doubt that thats the case
Would be very surprising if it were though

I don't think that image of Nathan in the mirror was a burned/damaged Peter. It was Nathan looking at Nathan

Well, I think that it's Nathan, that illusionist girl has but a illusion on him so he would look normal. Peter exploded and Nathan got a dose of radiation, that's why he has burned/damaged skin.

. . hmm thats not quite rite... the bomb (peter) still went off. . u saw the huge explosion at the end of the 1st seasons ep!! ... its just that it didn't go off in the plaza and kill everyone. . so the past was still changed but peter sill exploded just like the future when he was a bad ass. . so he must get his memories bak cos like the 1st post said. . 5years in the future peter had his memories. PS.. little gutted sylar wasnt in this one. . but i suppose u cnt have everythin in the opening episode for the new season haha .

Don't be too sure. I'm still waiting on the "Peter SCAR" explanation. did he have it last night?

Split personalities? Nikki absorbtion?!?!?!? Please... Micah and DL, Mama P., Mat, Molly freakin Sylar were all in close proximity also... come on guys...Nathan time travel??!?!?...where'd that come from? ...that's a little far out there in left field isn't it?
The Hatian needs to spend a little time with ya to erase ya doesn't he? haven't seen or heard from him since before that future episode when Mohinder nailed him with the hypodermic .
Why was Peter handcuffed inside a big locked cargo box? (maybe he's really Dr. Doom)
There's a WHOLE lot we don't know.

Thank you.

Peter hasn't been split like Niki/Jessica. He's not clinging onto Nathan in any way. I presume that if Niki/Jessica were twins, they probably had identical powers which would have made it so much easier for Jessica to attach herself to Niki.

Nathan and Peter are different people.

Well, I'm posting from Cork in Ireland so the last part of that epiode gave me a surprise.

The accents were a little off, but a minor thing. Apple do ship a lot of iPods in and out of Cork so that fits as a pretext for whomever sent the goons.

One problem they had at the end of last season is Peter, one of the main characters and probably the most powerful Hero so far, was atomically unstable. To bring him back he has to have learned stability or lost the explosion ability somehow. Losing his memory resets him and lets him go back to the confused earlier Peter for a while.

I don't know dude...he pushed the one guy away Ted style with a seemingly very controlled power burst from the hand. Didn't he? The other hand was handcuffed to the big empty LOCKED box, somebody felt he should be in...

first of all - yay that it's back!!


Possible spoiler:
secondly does anyone think that maybe in the 4 months peter has come into contact with a certain newcomer to the show......which may explain the blue bolt...

He had the ivory necklace that the hatian used to wear on. I think there is a second company that is 'recruiting' the people with the strongest powers. Wipe there minds and send them out as drones to do your bidding.

New thought: When he regenerates he does so from the point of most DNA. If he was blow into millions of bits then maybe...

THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PETER PETRELLI'S IN THE WORLD! Thats why he was in the box, he was being shipped to a client who needed some 'work' done.

EDIT 2: After a brief search on E-Bay i found nothing. Shame...

My theory was that over the 4 months he had somehow learnt to control and harness Ted's radioactive power, and it was an EMT blast like in... One of the s1 episodes (mind blank:]), where Noah was telling Ted to burn bright, not hot.

Just a thought, though.

At least we know that he's still got powers, even if he doesn't remember them (unless he quickly nabbed that blast thing from one of the goons). What if he time-warped himself back to the 1930's?

Who says it's Ted's power? Harnessing radioactive power like that would be hella dangerous to use on everyone. Besides, we've only seen Peter's, Ted's and Sylar's hands spark and glow before. I don't remember ever seeing anything like a projectile before. I'm thinking it's a new power. Peter's been absent for 4 months. I doubt he's learned to control (by chance or choice) any of his powers much more than he did, especially after his memory loss (though there's no telling how long ago that happened yet, either). On the other hand, there's no telling how many people he's come across since the explosion (and has forgotten?). Maybe Kristen Bell's character?

When I heard the guy say "Where are the ipods?" I couldn't stop laughing. That's definitely not the first questioned I thought he'd ask after seeing what was in there.

Well, we don't have to have an explanation about Peter's scar since that episode happened in a possible future that didn't happened. We may never hear again about Peter's scar...

lemme clear about almost everything...

You have to keep in mind that this episode is 4 months after the explosion above NY.
Thats 120 days....
During those 120 days ALOT can happen.
So Peter couldve met new people with abilities and absorbed them.
Since Peter's memories were erased by most likely the Haitian.
The only explaination about Peter's defensive shielding is that he either learned it from a person who has the ability to shield his/her body with electric shields.
or
the power he used is from (although highely unlikely) Ted Sprague. I commented on this person who stated that it was Ted Sprague's ability but more advanced.
It was theorized that its possible to emit on high frequencies to make a shield around your body, in this case his left hand.
But as I said, its highly unlikely that its from Ted as Ted didnt even knew he could do this and Peter didnt trained it in season 1 unless he did during the last 4 months.

i think the necklace he was wearing belonged to the haitian.
i think the haitian removed his memory. damn why did he have amnesia, crap.

You know what, that might be a very great point. I thought it was just a coincidence but then I remember, the Haitian was the ONLY person who ever wore a necklace with the symbol...hmmm

Niki/Jessica have a tattoo of it correct? (idk why im thinking that...???)

Far as I could tell, N/J only had the tattoo when Jessica was "in control".

^yup thats why jessica had to cover it up.

anyways, i really think the haitian has something to do with peter's memory lost.
but if the haitian works for mama petrelly (am i right?) then mama petrelli must know that peter is alive and know where he is and how he got there.
i read somewhere that mama petrelli's powers could be like isaac mendez, can predict the future, psychic, i dont think thats her power since she doesnt know that peter is alive (or does she?)

Well they knew he was going to survive the blast. Because when claire and nathan/ mrs petrelli were arguing in his office she said dont worry hes going to survive. So i think is a matter of where he is....but thna again they could have just said that to make claire happy lol

comment on the scar thing.
i dont think that'll happen anymore since he absorbed claires power earlier than expected since future hiro went back to time and told peter to save the cheerleader, if future hiro didnt tell him that he could've never met claire and could've gotten the scar from sylar, but now that peter met him he could regenerate immediately and wouldnt get any scar, or pimples, flawless skin damn. lol.

i dont think that the power peter used belonged to ted's it could be a new character,
the real question is how peter got in the crate handcuffed in a corner with no memories, how long was he in there, lol.

i love the way nathan told his mom that she was evil. lol. it got her thinking hahaha.
i think shes still keeping secrets and telling lies, she is evil lol.

that was the first thought that jumped to my mind too! But why would the Haitian do that?

Didn't look enough like Peter, at close it looks clearly like nathan!

something must have happened during the last 4 months that we will soon find out.

yea the scarred person is Nathan

And maybe the Haitian got something to do with Peter losing his memory...And surprising able to use electricity (which means he met someone...(i hope its Elle lol))

Man....i wish that 4 months ago episode will air soon

Well, it could be Elle or the guy from the Blackout comic. I highly doubt its Ted. Its definitely electricity.