who do you guys think was the person who killed kaito. (or tried, we dont know if hes dead)
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it's obviously one of the other people kaito was talking about...as he mentioned to angela that there are still 9 left amonst us. i'm moving this to the spoiler section though as it will be talked about since it won't be covered anytime soon
since powers have been proven to be hereditary. i think that hiro wasn't the only one in their family to get a power. seeing how surprised his father was, how much more his daughter seemed to be involved in the "family business" than hiro and the small stature of the assassin, i think it was hiro's sister.
QUOTE(sma97 @ Sep 27 2007, 10:01 AM) 
since powers have been proven to be hereditary. i think that hiro wasn't the only one in their family to get a power. seeing how surprised his father was, how much more his daughter seemed to be involved in the "family business" than hiro and the small stature of the assassin, i think it was hiro's sister.
What reason would she have to kill her own father though?
QUOTE(sma97 @ Sep 27 2007, 07:01 AM)
since powers have been proven to be hereditary. i think that hiro wasn't the only one in their family to get a power. seeing how surprised his father was, how much more his daughter seemed to be involved in the "family business" than hiro and the small stature of the assassin, i think it was hiro's sister.
I don't think so, like the poster above said, why would she want to kill him? She's already got control over the family business. Besides, not every family member has to have a power (mohinder and his sister, although her mutation could've arisen with her I guess).
Whomever killed him had to have been able to fly, teleport or something, seeing as how he didn't hit the floor (someone like claire would've left blood stains, regardless of his/her healing ability).
QUOTE(Uker @ Sep 27 2007, 10:39 PM)
What reason would she have to kill her own father though?
Since when do members of a evil cabal need reasons? (Not saying she's in one)but organizations like that require blind obeidence and the will to achieve a goal by any means. Even HRG was to kill Claire and he had raised her since she was a baby. So killing your own father is as simply as following directions. Even Sylar killed his own mother.
QUOTE(sma97 @ Sep 29 2007, 01:53 AM)
Since when do members of a evil cabal need reasons? (Not saying she's in one)but organizations like that require blind obeidence and the will to achieve a goal by any means. Even HRG was to kill Claire and he had raised her since she was a baby. So killing your own father is as simply as following directions. Even Sylar killed his own mother.
yeah, but there has been no story about her so far. I cant see her becoming a main focus of the story- killing off the original people who had ablities
It's, Drum roll please, Nathan! Yeah well, It's kind of obvious.
1) He bumped into ando and he's Newspaper, The red half Helix was in the Newspaper, Resulting in his death.
2) He blames Kaito and his mother for the Explosion.
3) When kaito splatter'd against the floor, Someone went down with him, That someone wasnt seen on the floor, Becuase that someone could fly.
1) He bumped into ando and he's Newspaper, The red half Helix was in the Newspaper, Resulting in his death.
2) He blames Kaito and his mother for the Explosion.
3) When kaito splatter'd against the floor, Someone went down with him, That someone wasnt seen on the floor, Becuase that someone could fly.
I have a feeling thats Kensei somehow the physique of the hooded guy XD
Rumor was that David Anders was going to play the villain this season going by the name Kane. He was described as being a charming womanizer who has a soul that seems to be older then he appears to be. He has also been confirmed as a series regular. Considering Masi Oka has confirmed he will only be in feudal Japan the first 8 episodes or so, I think it's a safe bet Kensei is going to make an appearance in the present. Spoilers say the "worse then bogeyman" character is Bob Parkman, but Kensei/Kane may be the next villian after Bob is dealt with. He doesn't seem like a terrible person in the past, but after he learns he has an ability/abilities and 1,000 years go
Yeah thats right but where or how did you get more information on Bob Parkman, I haven't heard of him yet XD
QUOTE(lastxcallforsin @ Sep 29 2007, 09:33 PM)
Rumor was that David Anders was going to play the villain this season going by the name Kane. He was described as being a charming womanizer who has a soul that seems to be older then he appears to be. He has also been confirmed as a series regular. Considering Masi Oka has confirmed he will only be in feudal Japan the first 8 episodes or so, I think it's a safe bet Kensei is going to make an appearance in the present. Spoilers say the "worse then bogeyman" character is Bob Parkman, but Kensei/Kane may be the next villian after Bob is dealt with. He doesn't seem like a terrible person in the past, but after he learns he has an ability/abilities and 1,000 years go by...
So Kane is like one of those people from the Highlander series? Wow that's really unoriginal.
QUOTE(darkabsalom @ Sep 29 2007, 10:56 PM)
Yeah thats right but where or how did you get more information on Bob Parkman, I haven't heard of him yet XD
http://heroeswiki.com/Spoiler:Season_Two
The source of the Bob spoiler was from an article describing episode 1-4 in The National Enquirer. These were posted before the episode premiere and some official NBC episode descriptions. Everything seems to fit so far.
Here is an image of the killer, brightened but still hard to make out who it is. Could possibly just be a stunt person and not the actual character who is going to play the killer though.
I also have a feeling that it was Nathan who killed Kaito, since he was nowhere to be seen after falling. What interests me is why he did it, and who told him to do it, if anyone (possibly Kane?), that's if it was him. My guess is we won't find out the answer until episode 8.
I'm hoping that the killer is not nathan. Will be a shocker but there's no point yet for the characters to have big betrayals(and the like) this early, IMO.
QUOTE(ncajayon @ Oct 1 2007, 07:36 AM)
I'm hoping that the killer is not nathan. Will be a shocker but there's no point yet for the characters to have big betrayals(and the like) this early, IMO.
IMO, it's definitely Nathan
QUOTE(vorlon @ Oct 1 2007, 12:30 AM)
IMO, it's definitely Nathan
For what reason would he do it? I honestly can't see it being him, will suck to me if turns out to be though.
It could be Hiro. He can teleport...
Very unlikely though.
Very unlikely though.
At first I was convinced it was the present day version of Sark (Kensei) but now that I'm thinking I can see why Nathan is a suspect. He was present when both people got their death threats.
This interview changed my mind again though:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12002
They want us to think it could be a girl...hmm, where was Jessica this episode
Just reminds me of the picture of Sylar from last year, when he was in his forties with a beard when he attacked Audrey at the FBI....good photo you got though
This interview changed my mind again though:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12002
They want us to think it could be a girl...hmm, where was Jessica this episode
QUOTE(lastxcallforsin @ Sep 30 2007, 11:15 PM)
Here is an image of the killer, brightened but still hard to make out who it is. Could possibly just be a stunt person and not the actual character who is going to play the killer though.
Just reminds me of the picture of Sylar from last year, when he was in his forties with a beard when he attacked Audrey at the FBI....good photo you got though
Why was Nakamuras killer wearing a poor hoodie to do the dirty deed but to disguise himself from us. Surely this murderer is someone who has been betrade and is seeking revenge, and the only one we know of that it could be therefore is old man Petrelli...
QUOTE(Stevie E @ Oct 1 2007, 05:38 PM)
Why was Nakamuras killer wearing a poor hoodie to do the dirty deed but to disguise himself from us. Surely this murderer is someone who has been betrade and is seeking revenge, and the only one we know of that it could be therefore is old man Petrelli...
So if it is old man Petrelli, then all the talk about him being dead are false?
I dont really think it is old man Petrelli, I mean they did bury him (I guess). I believe that the hooded figure is Kane or Nathan.
QUOTE(sylar_md @ Oct 1 2007, 05:48 PM)
I dont really think it is old man Petrelli, I mean they did bury him (I guess). I believe that the hooded figure is Kane or Nathan.
It is someone that Kaito knew but did not expect the group to send.
Surely 'dallas" Petrelli is dead and possessed no abilities anyway.
I highly doubt Pa Petrelli's the killer, but one NEVER knows. I want to know what the motives for killing Kaito are as well as the others. Perhaps this person also killed Pa Petrelli too?
I feel like it can't be Nathan because of the significance of the Helix on their pictures.
How would Nathan know about that being a death threat?
How would Nathan know about that being a death threat?
QUOTE(LadyAvisynh @ Oct 2 2007, 10:28 AM)
I highly doubt Pa Petrelli's the killer, but one NEVER knows. I want to know what the motives for killing Kaito are as well as the others. Perhaps this person also killed Pa Petrelli too?
yeah there a lot of mystery surrounding Pa Petrelli's death and what he and the others past, and I think
that's one of the more interesting parts of the series at the moment
personally I don't think the killer is Pa Petrelli but that would make for a good climax wouldn't it?
I can imagine it now!! Peter and Nathan facing off against Pa Petrelli!!
Pa Petrelli: They never told you what happened to your father?
Peter: they told me you killed him!!
Pa Petrelli: No, I am your father!
Peter and Nathan: Nnnnnnooooo!!
Unless old Petrelli could rise from the dead, than also have the power to save him from falling off the top of the building, it's be hard to believe it was him.
Also, I think if it was him, Kaito would be a bit more freaked out considering he's supposed to be dead.
Also, I think if it was him, Kaito would be a bit more freaked out considering he's supposed to be dead.
QUOTE(GeneZ @ Sep 26 2007, 04:23 PM)
who do you guys think was the person who killed kaito. (or tried, we dont know if hes dead)
Probably Claude, because when Kaito first sees his attacker, he actually SEES him, but then the camera pans out, out of Kaito's POV and suddenly the attacker's gone. Therefore, invisibility! Therefore, Claude! He cannot resist throwing people off rooftops it is a pathological urge.
I miss Claude.
Well we don't know Pa Petrelli's power is now do we?
So this theories still up in the air lol
So this theories still up in the air lol
well i don't think it would be him unless he also has invisibility powers cause didn't we see the killer attack ma petrelli, but really didn't see him.
I dont think it was pa petrelli, he wont want to kill his wife too. maybe angela betrayed him ._.
I think there is yet another fraction of a group with powers which is doing away with the 'old' fraction one by one
I think one of the elder's went psycho like sylar and is killing everybody
well we don't know all the members of the old core 
but we do know that there was a difference of opinion at some point with Pa Petrelli and Hiro's fater going a one direction and Angela and Linderman going another
who knows what happened to the others or what they've been up to?
but we do know that there was a difference of opinion at some point with Pa Petrelli and Hiro's fater going a one direction and Angela and Linderman going another
who knows what happened to the others or what they've been up to?
QUOTE(Stevie E @ Oct 1 2007, 04:38 PM)
Why was Nakamuras killer wearing a poor hoodie to do the dirty deed but to disguise himself from us. Surely this murderer is someone who has been betrade and is seeking revenge, and the only one we know of that it could be therefore is old man Petrelli...
dont thing so!!
damn makes you think...
omgahds!!
omgahds!!
Don't think its old man Petrelli, and cant be Nathan IMO as hooded figure is too small to be Nathan, guess we will have 2 wait and see
QUOTE(Smartwiz @ Oct 2 2007, 03:05 PM)
I think either Charles or Papa Petrelli killed the Elders (Faked their death maybe) But until I know ALL the elders I must wait. It could even be Bennet
m pretti sure Noah doesnt have powers..n m pretti sure he was w d rest of d bennet famli wae ovr to that new plce dat deyr in now n not in ny..but stil..evn f it was Mr Bennet..y wud he wear something lyk dt..sylar kud pull dt off..nt him..datz jst krezi..
QUOTE(vdmathis @ Oct 2 2007, 12:55 PM)
It is someone that Kaito knew but did not expect the group to send.
what if it was claude..so he pushed him off d buildin den myb he got a hold of something n made himself invisible so dt ando kud onli c hiros dad n nt d kilr..n besides..dtz d spot wr everything happend,happens or wil happen..iz wr d elderz used to meet..n dey stil do..itz THE spot..also wr claude used to hang w his pidgeons so i gues he didnt hav to scnd gues wr he'd find mr nakamura..
Even i don't think it was a Petrelli. I think it was someone from their generation only but younger.
I'm very courious about this evil organization's members, structure.....after linderman's death I thought it was over, but it doesn't look nothing like it!!!
if daddy petrelli was the killer (which i highly doubt) it would be a little too darth vader to peter's luke don't you think?
i think the killer is from the 1st Generation heroes....as you can see ma petrelli n mr nakamura receiving a piece of same picture. and mr nakamura does`nt suprise its his time to die.
my suspect is Lindermann...
my suspect is Lindermann...
QUOTE(Menac @ Sep 29 2007, 08:11 AM)
It's, Drum roll please, Nathan! Yeah well, It's kind of obvious.
1) He bumped into ando and he's Newspaper, The red half Helix was in the Newspaper, Resulting in his death.
2) He blames Kaito and his mother for the Explosion.
3) When kaito splatter'd against the floor, Someone went down with him, That someone wasnt seen on the floor, Becuase that someone could fly.
1) He bumped into ando and he's Newspaper, The red half Helix was in the Newspaper, Resulting in his death.
2) He blames Kaito and his mother for the Explosion.
3) When kaito splatter'd against the floor, Someone went down with him, That someone wasnt seen on the floor, Becuase that someone could fly.
I first thought all this also while watching the episode the 2nd time through. However, I think this is misdirection and the writers only want us to think this. It is probably someone we have not seen yet...
JMHO
call me crazy but i believe that nathan killed kaito!
if you were going to push someone off a building and fall with them
then what power would you want to get out of this nasty situation
FLIGHT!!
if you were going to push someone off a building and fall with them
then what power would you want to get out of this nasty situation
FLIGHT!!
This is a very mind-boggling question. The pic doesnt give a good lead to who the person may be. as mentioned, the person might just be another extra..
QUOTE(ppcz @ Oct 1 2007, 10:45 PM)
This is a very mind-boggling question. The pic doesnt give a good lead to who the person may be. as mentioned, the person might just be another extra..
The way he moved, his posture....he seemed like someone new, and not a part of the "old generation".
Intresting but I don't think the producers have a role for him
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