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Aerdna
So we finally got to see Claire's mom. And apparently she's a pyro and can create fire. How did survive the fire that supposedly killed her you ask? I think she can manipulate fire as well. She was probably able to separate the fire to escape. The thing I wonder now is how did they confirm her dead? If they had a proper funeral for her, how did she "resurrect" herself?
Jester77
Hmm it's interesting she seems like a character with a lot of secrets but I loved the fact that she's a fire starter and I love that they showed it right off the bat. Well since she can manipulate fire it doesn't seem strange at all that she survived the explosion but HRG though she was dead so I wonder what she did
slop27
I'm betting the fire that was started was so bad that there was no way that someones remains would be identifiable so hrg had to claim she was dead for the benefit of the normal police around
DCSimian
QUOTE(slop27 @ Jan 30 2007, 11:34 AM) [snapback]3416[/snapback]
I'm betting the fire that was started was so bad that there was no way that someones remains would be identifiable so hrg had to claim she was dead for the benefit of the normal police around


Good point! Plus, she doesn't seem to get hurt when she set her hand on fire to light the cigarette. She probably doesn't burn in explosions she may have caused on her own.
Hero in Waiting


She may have accidentally set the fire herself, perhaps in anger or self defense (from HRG???) and has been in mourning for her daughter all these years. She seemed surprised when Claire told her she was her daughter. It was pretty cool, or hot I guess??? cool.gif


Jester77
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She may have accidentally set the fire herself, perhaps in anger or self defense (from HRG???) and has been in mourning for her daughter all these years. She seemed surprised when Claire told her she was her daughter. It was pretty cool, or hot I guess???


I agree though she didn't seem all that emotional to hear that her long lost daughter was still alive, actually Claire's mom kind of freaks me out
Tazorak
Yeah her mom does kinda freak me out, but she's prolly been living through heck since the fire thinking her daught died, and it must have been a relief! Cause Merideth asked if it was a joke.
Jester77
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Yeah her mom does kinda freak me out, but she's prolly been living through heck since the fire thinking her daught died, and it must have been a relief! Cause Merideth asked if it was a joke


It'll be interesting to see what kind of problems Claire's mom has cause it seems like she has a lot
Tazorak
Yeah she could like, go psycho fire crazy on some one? that would be awesome.
Aerdna
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Jan 30 2007, 05:02 PM) [snapback]3499[/snapback]
I agree though she didn't seem all that emotional to hear that her long lost daughter was still alive, actually Claire's mom kind of freaks me out


Since Claire's mom works for HRG (supposedly) then maybe he threatened her to never make contact with her again? Or there could be another reason for her not being very excited or emotional about hearing from her.
Jester77
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Since Claire's mom works for HRG (supposedly) then maybe he threatened her to never make contact with her again? Or there could be another reason for her not being very excited or emotional about hearing from her.


Possibly, hopefully we'll find out soon though
slop27
i'm wondering how hot she can make that fire and how much control over it she has cause by the flames on her fingers it was just low heat probably under extreme temps like the kind of stuff that melts glass and metal
Jester77
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i'm wondering how hot she can make that fire and how much control over it she has cause by the flames on her fingers it was just low heat probably under extreme temps like the kind of stuff that melts glass and metal


It's an interesting question but I'm guessing she can make fire pretty hot since she must have somehow been able to escape the explosion unscathed
Melissa78
After Next weeks preview it sounds like Her mother didn't give a you know what that her daughter contacted her.I am started to think she didn't want her daughter at all. cool.gif
slop27
that would be an interesting and disturbing way to get out of motherhood just fry your child and everything else to make it look like your dead. that would be horrible if she did that
Jester77
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that would be an interesting and disturbing way to get out of motherhood just fry your child and everything else to make it look like your dead. that would be horrible if she did that


It's interesting because I've watched the scene with Claire and her mother a couple of times now and I've also seen the preview a few times and I can't make up my mind on Claire's mother, I think she's going to try and use Claire for some kind of personal gain though after all she is kind of "trailer trash"
slop27
if you go to some places they would pay a lot to see the burning lady and the girl that can not be killed or there is always the best guinnea pig in the world
Jester77
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if you go to some places they would pay a lot to see the burning lady and the girl that can not be killed or there is always the best guinnea pig in the world


Well I figured more along the lines of breaking the law
slop27
well that idea is probably a little better than the gordon family freak show
Hero in Waiting


It will be interesting to see how her story plays out. I sensed an alterior motive when she was talking to Claire. I believe she will attempt to profit to a degree (not a fire starter pun) off her daughter's return. The guy on the phone with her looked as if he had means, and she may use Claire for financial gain....just my thought....cool.gif



Jester77
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It will be interesting to see how her story plays out. I sensed an alterior motive when she was talking to Claire. I believe she will attempt to profit to a degree (not a fire starter pun) off her daughter's return. The guy on the phone with her looked as if he had means, and she may use Claire for financial gain....just my thought....


I definetly agree especially Claire's dad, though he wasn't really shown I just don't think that Claire's real parents are gonna be trustworthy people.. and nice pun biggrin.gif
Red
I wonder If Meredith has the Indestructability within her; since she can't be harmed with Fire, and that is what Claire got from her mom. So MG could actually go Head to head with Ted, and that his Fusion balls won't affect MG.
Jester77
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I wonder If Meredith has the Indestructability within her; since she can't be harmed with Fire, and that is what Claire got from her mom. So MG could actually go Head to head with Ted, and that his Fusion balls won't affect MG.


I don't think that she is indestructible in any way, she is just immune to her power. Can you imagine her trying to use her power and getting burned because of it? She can't be immune to Ted's power because that is radiation but fire she is immune to
Red
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Mar 28 2007, 01:41 AM) [snapback]17188[/snapback]
Can you imagine her trying to use her power and getting burned because of it?

She can't be immune to Ted's power because that is radiation but fire she is immune to
It's a Gift. and a curse. laugh.gif If she's immune to Fire why Not Plasma Burns?
Jester77
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It's a Gift. and a curse. laugh.gif If she's immune to Fire why Not Plasma Burns?


If that's a gift then I would send it back laugh.gif Anyway it's not really plasma burns is it? More like radioactive energy so it's kind of different, at least I would assume so (but you know what they say about assuming biggrin.gif)
Supergirl
Well obviously fire can't harm her, but perhaps only fire. Same with Ted, and his abilities not harming him, but harming others around him.
Jester77
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Well obviously fire can't harm her, but perhaps only fire. Same with Ted, and his abilities not harming him, but harming others around him.


If someone has an ability like being a pyro or being radioactive they have to be immune to their power but I don't think they are to anyone else which would mean that Meredith is not immune to Ted's power
Supergirl
No I don't think she is, but Claire is, as we saw in Company Man.
Jester77
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No I don't think she is, but Claire is, as we saw in Company Man.


Well up to a point. If Ted had truly gone off then Claire would have disintegrated, and I don't think she would have been able to regenerate then laugh.gif
Red
and Meredith will Hunt Ted down. I wonder if she fires streams of fire or similar to Ted as Fire Balls?
Jester77
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and Meredith will Hunt Ted down. I wonder if she fires streams of fire or similar to Ted as Fire Balls?


Well both emit their powers in similar fashions with their hands. Like when Meredith revealed her power to Claire and in episode 17 when Ted was terrorizing the Bennets
Red
Yes BUT the question is how their powers manifest when they blast/fire them?
Jester77
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Yes BUT the question is how their powers manifest when they blast/fire them?


Manifest? I don't think that they would necessarily manifest
Red
manifest
Function: transitive verb
: to make evident or certain by showing or displaying
synonym see SHOW
AriaKit
QUOTE(slop27 @ Jan 31 2007, 03:42 PM) [snapback]3663[/snapback]
that would be an interesting and disturbing way to get out of motherhood just fry your child and everything else to make it look like your dead. that would be horrible if she did that


That 's what I thought when I saw that episode. Just the way she seemed so sure that Claire had died and that she has the ability to create fires, all a bit suspicious.

I'm certain that she set the fire on purpose to fake her own death and whetever by accident or design saw Claire "die".
Jester77
Okay my bad, I should have cracked open my dictionary.

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I'm certain that she set the fire on purpose to fake her own death and whetever by accident or design saw Claire "die".
I think it was also as a means of escaping HRG and Claude

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*nods* The question is, how did she know they were coming? Was she the one Claude was protecting?


It's possible that Claude could have warned her, or it may be possible that she thought that both the lives of her and Claire were being harmed and so she just went off

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I don't think she knew that's why she blew up the apartment accidentally with her child in it.


I'm guessing that they surprised her and in an act of defense she went off
AriaKit
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Apr 4 2007, 02:19 PM) [snapback]18247[/snapback]
I think it was also as a means of escaping HRG and Claude


*nods* The question is, how did she know they were coming? Was she the one Claude was protecting?
Red
I don't think she knew that's why she blew up the apartment accidentally with her child in it.
Who do you think was Claude Hiding in Chapter 17 <= Topic already exsisted.
Raekon
Well I hope Meredith will come back in season two and will make use of her power to protect or help someone somehow. smile.gif

I just hope they won't make cannon fodder out of her for Sylar or anyone else though. dry.gif
Jester77
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Well I hope Meredith will come back in season two and will make use of her power to protect or help someone somehow. smile.gif


Plus it will be cool if Peter got to take her power and maybe if she can back and proved to Claire that could be a good person (which is debatable)
Raekon
Well even she wasn't THAT honest about the money to she got from Nathan to claire, she still cared for her as it seems and was determined to show her to Nathan while he wasn't THAT interested.

After all she didn't lied to claire when it came to how her father was/is. wink.gif
So in my eyes she is still a good person that probably has her reasons why for having to stay away most of the time which hopefully will be revealed in the second season. smile.gif

As about peter get her power: in the five years gone episode he had it.
If he will get it again in the recent timeline though it's unknown yet.
Let's just hope that he won't have to go boom again after he does. x_x
Jester77
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Well even she wasn't THAT honest about the money to she got from Nathan to claire, she still cared for her as it seems and was determined to show her to Nathan while he wasn't THAT interested.

After all she didn't lied to claire when it came to how her father was/is. wink.gif
So in my eyes she is still a good person that probably has her reasons why for having to stay away most of the time which hopefully will be revealed in the second season. smile.gif


It did seem like she really did care for Claire, she just went about it the wrong way..
Jerub-baal
How It (Might) Works
Meredith Gordon: Pyrokinesis
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QUOTE("Chevy")
It is possible that her body creates and secretes through the pores of the skin two chemicals, we'll say hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide.(courtesy of wiki), that when combined, they create a flame. He skin is protected by a third chemical, vaseline like, that makes her impervious to the flame catching her skin. The reason I think vaseline like, is because it can also be used as tinder when coated on cotton balls. The combination can easily be ignited by a fire starter, burning hot and long, but the petroleum keeps the cotton from getting wet. If the cotton ball is protected, then so should the skin.

However, she cannot throw fire balls, because there's nothing to sustain the flame once it's left the chemicals. No 'fire streaming' from the body, again, she cant 'shoot' the chemical outward. Also, theoretically, she could ignite her whole body, similar to Johnny Storm, minus flight and superspeed.

Again, however, her clothes would burn off; unlike Claude, she cant manipulate her clothes too. She can't make them impervious as well, rational yes, possible... maybe if she extricated the chemicals from her body slowly and allowed her clothes to soak at home rather then wash them. But along the lines of 'she can't control her clothes,' therefore, when her clothes caught fire, she'd be naked after they burned away. Her hair was a funny thing... hair has natural oils (I've seen the commercials, you have too) that could theoretically produce the same seelant as vaseline-like properties. Downfall; her eye's would have to remain closed, the pores on her eylids blocking the fire from scorching out her eyeballs (which produce nothing of the sort of chemical needed to stay impervious, minus tears).

Now the 'why not manip? she burned down her house...'

Well, we don't know she shot fire from her hands... maybe she fellasleep, cigarette in hand and it fell onto the rug. we aren't sure she started the firewith her abilities even. If she did, however, then if she can manipulate fire. Why not cause the flames to burn out?

But, the only thing to dissprove my theory, one of many actually I'm sure, is why she doesn't have really bad rosatia on her face and arms... if the body is secreting all these chemicals to produce a chemical reaction starting a flame, why aren't theses 'natural' oils clogging up her pores, causing bad acne or blackheads. Or is it because she has that kind of control over her bodies chemicals that she can keep it 'clean, clear and under control...'
GeneZ
aff ^ too long lol

this person is just so greedy, lol
telling claire that nathan gave 50 thousand instead of a hundred thousand dollars and then splitting it to two so both of them can have 25 thousand each, wth so that means meredith gets 75 thousand while claire gets 25, damn mother. lol
BaneSilvermoon
I've always figured the fire was started accidentally the first time Meredith ever saw her powers. Look how long it was before Nathan took flight a second time after the car crash. And much like Nathans discovery, another accident caused by a manifesting ability.
Blubla
QUOTE(BaneSilvermoon @ Oct 1 2007, 01:01 PM) *
I've always figured the fire was started accidentally the first time Meredith ever saw her powers. Look how long it was before Nathan took flight a second time after the car crash. And much like Nathans discovery, another accident caused by a manifesting ability.


That was my think too, perhaps she had somme beef with someone and then her powers manifested, but she couldnt control it.
Casleb
There's quite an interesting wikipedia page on pyrokinesis, although the fact that it IS a wikipedia page kinda makes it worth overlooking... dry.gif

Pyrokinesis

While it is theoretical it makes interesting reading about the fact that pyrokinesis could potentially occur through study.
rrichiee
argh!! they shud've showed more of her in the 1st season, now its probably going to be even less likely to see her now
mrmention
Would like to have seen a flashback of her burning her house down with Claire inside. also i never understood if she says she wanted to 'stay dead' why was claire able to find her on name lookup.
Dylok
i wanna see and learn more about her story...
cant wait to see
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