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GreenDay
If Nathan won by landslide , why is not in congress????
minara
Oh gee, I dunno?

Maybe because he knows he didn't win fair and square? Maybe because he knows that his winning was just part of a plot involving his mother, who he now knows isn't the nicest of characters, to let millions of people die? Maybe because he's so stricken with grief at the loss of his brother that he can't function properly?

EDIT :

If I had just found out that my dream was actually just me being used as a pawn in a very evil and immoral manner, I wouldn't want to live that dream anymore, either.
GreenDay
QUOTE(GreenDay @ Sep 27 2007, 01:39 PM) *
If Nathan won by landslide , why he is not in congress????


Hmmm interesting...
Uker
QUOTE(GreenDay @ Sep 27 2007, 03:08 PM) *
Hmmm interesting...


minara answered this...idk what you are looking for.


Obviously he is too guilt stricken to hold office, and as he knows (Assuming) he thinks peter is dead.
Aerdna
QUOTE(minara @ Sep 27 2007, 01:48 PM) *
Oh gee, I dunno?

Maybe because he knows he didn't win fair and square? Maybe because he knows that his winning was just part of a plot involving his mother, who he now knows isn't the nicest of characters, to let millions of people die? Maybe because he's so stricken with grief at the loss of his brother that he can't function properly?

EDIT :

If I had just found out that my dream was actually just me being used as a pawn in a very evil and immoral manner, I wouldn't want to live that dream anymore, either.


He probably resigned. I wonder how he explained all of that to the public rolleyes.gif We'll probably see what happened in episode 8 or whatever episode it was that we'll see what happened after the explosion.
AdmiralOwen
he may not have taken office yet- im not sure how the US system works. Is there a delay before taking up the post?
Or he may have taken a leave of absence to grow that beard and drink

hes been hanging around Kirby Plaza a lot, waiting for Peter to return

come to think of it how did anyone xplain the nuke in the sky 4 months ago?
SinnerforSylar
QUOTE(GreenDay @ Sep 27 2007, 10:39 AM) *
If Nathan won by landslide , why is not in congress????


Im guessing with the whole Brother dead.. mother a bitch thing.. that maybe he was just kinda... not willing.
Kimura Yuji
QUOTE(SinnerforSylar @ Sep 27 2007, 08:10 PM) *
Im guessing with the whole Brother dead.. mother a bitch thing.. that maybe he was just kinda... not willing.


You also forgot the alcoholic, depressed and delusional(if what he saw in the mirror was just his imagination)
Oh and he hasn't shaved lol
And he broke up with his wife and hasn't seem his kids
Now I'm thinking if he hasn't had another child(pretty irresponsible huh?) cuz the flying boy there (forgot his name, apologize for my "worst than a golden fish's" memory) can fly(lol pretty redundant, eh?). And the chance of two people having the same power are almost null, and i think they can only be higher if it's genealogical.
Uker
QUOTE(Kimura Yuji @ Sep 27 2007, 09:32 PM) *
You also forgot the alcoholic, depressed and delusional(if what he saw in the mirror was just his imagination)
Oh and he hasn't shaved lol
And he broke up with his wife and hasn't seem his kids
Now I'm thinking if he hasn't had another child(pretty irresponsible huh?) cuz the flying boy there (forgot his name, apologize for my "worst than a golden fish's" memory) can fly(lol pretty redundant, eh?). And the chance of two people having the same power are almost null, and i think they can only be higher if it's genealogical.


But then claire loses another potential boyfriend!! (yay) rolleyes.gif
DiZ
One word Guilt!
'nuff said
StraNGeLaD
Well, if Lindeman's dead then perhaps part of his insurance policy was to discredit anyone involved in his death, i.e. Nathan, it's going to be another one of those "we'll find out in Ep20".
DiZ
QUOTE(Uker @ Sep 28 2007, 07:04 AM) *
minara answered this...idk what you are looking for.
Obviously he is too guilt stricken to hold office, and as he knows (Assuming) he thinks peter is dead.


Nathan shouldn't be stricken with grief, he hasn't done anything wrong! He had no way of knowing, and when he did find out, he objected to it, he didn't accept it at all. He saved the whole of NY by flying peter up. Peter survived anyway. Even if peter WAS dead, Nathan would have sacrificed one life (who was gunna die anyway) in order to save a whole city from ultimate meltdown!!!
DiZ
QUOTE(DiZ @ Sep 28 2007, 08:48 PM) *
One word Guilt!
'nuff said

BTW ignore this post
sportastephaline
on the Petrelli Campaign website there is a note saying "Recently I have encountered a situation that renders me unable to put the best interest of New York as my number one concern. Without going further into further details, I am resigning from my elected seat as Junior Senator of New York state, effective immidiately"


he gave up his position after the events at kirby Plaza
Uker
QUOTE(sportastephaline @ Sep 28 2007, 02:23 PM) *
on the Petrelli Campaign website there is a note saying "Recently I have encountered a situation that renders me unable to put the best interest of New York as my number one concern. Without going further into further details, I am resigning from my elected seat as Junior Senator of New York state, effective immidiately"
he gave up his position after the events at kirby Plaza



So family is important to him tongue.gif
SinnerforSylar
QUOTE(Kimura Yuji @ Sep 27 2007, 06:32 PM) *
You also forgot the alcoholic, depressed and delusional(if what he saw in the mirror was just his imagination)
Oh and he hasn't shaved lol
And he broke up with his wife and hasn't seem his kids
Now I'm thinking if he hasn't had another child(pretty irresponsible huh?) cuz the flying boy there (forgot his name, apologize for my "worst than a golden fish's" memory) can fly(lol pretty redundant, eh?). And the chance of two people having the same power are almost null, and i think they can only be higher if it's genealogical.


Exactly!

Hmm.. i never thought of that... who is this flying man! its driving me nuts. But if this flying boy is related to Nathan in some way.. that means he is related to Claire too.. which makes flirting a big no no lol.
Terror13
QUOTE(GreenDay @ Sep 27 2007, 10:39 AM) *
If Nathan won by landslide , why is not in congress????
....ehhhh who said hes not what does he have to sit and work everyday ???

cant he sit as his wee bar and have a drink every now and then???
Uker
QUOTE(Terror13 @ Sep 30 2007, 03:12 PM) *
....ehhhh who said hes not what does he have to sit and work everyday ???

cant he sit as his wee bar and have a drink every now and then???



WEll...by his looks, hes not in congress... dry.gif dry.gif

full beard, kind of ratty clothes..depressed look. angry towards claire...
EterniCode
QUOTE(Terror13 @ Sep 30 2007, 04:12 PM) *
....ehhhh who said hes not what does he have to sit and work everyday ???

cant he sit as his wee bar and have a drink every now and then???

QUOTE(sportastephaline @ Sep 28 2007, 03:23 PM) *
on the Petrelli Campaign website there is a note saying "Recently I have encountered a situation that renders me unable to put the best interest of New York as my number one concern. Without going further into further details, I am resigning from my elected seat as Junior Senator of New York state, effective immidiately"
he gave up his position after the events at kirby Plaza


...
Supergirl
The flying guy that Claire met at school, West. I highly doubt he has anything to do with Nathan, they said many times Season 2 will deal with people that have the same powers. I'd say that answers that.

As for why Nathan isn't in Congress, I think that post from the website pretty much sums it up, but I am sure in the Four Months Ago episode we'll find out exactly.
Uker
QUOTE(Supergirl @ Sep 30 2007, 05:52 PM) *
The flying guy that Claire met at school, West. I highly doubt he has anything to do with Nathan, they said many times Season 2 will deal with people that have the same powers. I'd say that answers that.

As for why Nathan isn't in Congress, I think that post from the website pretty much sums it up, but I am sure in the Four Months Ago episode we'll find out exactly.



Only 10-11 weeks until we find out!!!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
jus_3c
TEN weeks?? Crap thats long...
dondadappa
Depression methinks
StraNGeLaD
QUOTE(Supergirl @ Sep 30 2007, 11:52 PM) *
The flying guy that Claire met at school, West. I highly doubt he has anything to do with Nathan, they said many times Season 2 will deal with people that have the same powers. I'd say that answers that.

As for why Nathan isn't in Congress, I think that post from the website pretty much sums it up, but I am sure in the Four Months Ago episode we'll find out exactly.


I said this on another thread but AICN (I think) reported that in EP4 (????) a link between Nathan and West is discovered, it's probably not paternal or anything.
birdie
he somehow feels guilty about what happened, and it snowballed to depression, alcoholism and resentment towards others. i don't think he hates claire tho, it's just that he can't handle more problems right now. maybe he resigned from congress. or maybe somebody found out that he cheated and ratted him out.
sheep999
QUOTE(GreenDay @ Sep 28 2007, 04:39 AM) *
If Nathan won by landslide , why is not in congress????


He is too grieved from the death of his brother to want to work.
yiggs
It's cos he didn't abide to dress code regulation 24:
No unkempt facial hair
wils1234
QUOTE(GreenDay @ Sep 28 2007, 02:39 AM) *
If Nathan won by landslide , why is not in congress????


I think He is still thinking what happened to Peter after the explosion.
MetalMeow
QUOTE(Uker @ Sep 27 2007, 06:34 PM) *
But then claire loses another potential boyfriend!! (yay) rolleyes.gif


Dude, that is just gross. True, but gross.
daisyhero09
Guilt over Peter's death overrides his desire to "help" people by being a Congressman, especially since it was Linderman who got him the position, who is responsible for Peter's "death."
Colossal
QUOTE(daisyhero09 @ Oct 1 2007, 06:08 PM) *
Guilt over Peter's death overrides his desire to "help" people by being a Congressman, especially since it was Linderman who got him the position, who is responsible for Peter's "death."


Totally agree. For all intents and purposes, Nathan is dead to the world, even to most of his family, with all the guilt and the weight of the world already on his shoulders because of what happened with Peter, why go into congress, it just wouldnt happen. Maybe he does have resentment to it too, if he had reacted sooner, taken up the cause earlier, he could have prevented the explosion full stop. But the idea of helping the world as President was too much for him at the time.
FLYINGMAN121
i assume he just couldnt handle it after all his brother is "dead" and his mums a bitch, he has found out he has a daugther, perhaps he has a son aswell (Claire's new fella)
Integral
QUOTE
i assume he just couldnt handle it after all his brother is "dead" and his mums a bitch, he has found out he has a daugther, perhaps he has a son aswell (Claire's new fella)


Oh, it would make sense couse he flies as well. But I don't think he knows yet
MultipleMan
QUOTE(Integral @ Oct 1 2007, 10:48 AM) *
Oh, it would make sense couse he flies as well. But I don't think he knows yet



I dont think a similiar power necessarily reflects a paternal relationship.
kunas1
QUOTE(MultipleMan @ Oct 1 2007, 11:00 AM) *
I dont think a similiar power necessarily reflects a paternal relationship.



that's not true !, a similiar power haves to reflect a paternal relationship, but claire doesn't have a power similiar to the power of his mom ! I don't know why
retrovans
Nathan seems to have become very depressed since that night in Kirby Plaza. I hope they explain more about what happened later on in the series. I think he's quit his job almost entirely, and turned to the drink by the looks of it.
zbeep
QUOTE(retrovans @ Oct 1 2007, 02:12 PM) *
Nathan seems to have become very depressed since that night in Kirby Plaza. I hope they explain more about what happened later on in the series. I think he's quit his job almost entirely, and turned to the drink by the looks of it.


I would if I was on the verge of committing mass genocide, wouldn't you?
retrovans
I guess so. Four months after the event, and his mother doesn't even care. I actually HATE angela petrelli right now.
Uker
QUOTE(retrovans @ Oct 1 2007, 05:16 PM) *
I guess so. Four months after the event, and his mother doesn't even care. I actually HATE angela petrelli right now.


Well her big plan that has been in the works for YEARS failed on her....so its kind of understandable? rolleyes.gif
robbo17
because hes turned into a psyco tongue.gif
minara
QUOTE(MultipleMan @ Oct 1 2007, 02:00 PM) *
I dont think a similiar power necessarily reflects a paternal relationship.

Thank you. I don't think it's feasible to assume that just because West has the same apparent power as Nathan that they are father-and-son. DL and Micah's powers are completely different. Claire and Nathan's powers are completely different.

Just because they have teh same ability it doesn't mean they are related.
Mr_Stabby
Depression from the possible loss of his brother most likely
Kastion2000
QUOTE(Uker @ Sep 27 2007, 02:04 PM) *
minara answered this...idk what you are looking for.
Obviously he is too guilt stricken to hold office, and as he knows (Assuming) he thinks peter is dead.


Yeah, thinks Peter is dead and went off on the booze, he was portrayed as a dirty drunk in the first episode of this season, don't know if many politicians can get away with that. =P
tropical420
i don't think he joined congress cuz of how bad he felt... plus look at him, he's washed up, flew away from his brother, they really still haven't explained what happened there
minara
Maybe they will reveal a bit more in tonight's episode.
DarioHeroes
QUOTE(GreenDay @ Sep 27 2007, 03:39 PM) *
If Nathan won by landslide , why is not in congress????


I think he´s chosen his path ..., getting to the Congress was part of his mother´s plans and after episode one we´ve seen he turned against her and against whatever she had planned for him ..., plus, he looks really worried about knowing what happened to Peter ...
Ozniss
QUOTE(DarioHeroes @ Oct 2 2007, 10:48 AM) *
I think he´s chosen his path ..., getting to the Congress was part of his mother´s plans and after episode one we´ve seen he turned against her and against whatever she had planned for him ..., plus, he looks really worried about knowing what happened to Peter ...

Yeah I agree, In the episode there is a fair deal of tension between Nathan and his mother.
mrs_frost1
QUOTE(GreenDay @ Sep 27 2007, 10:39 AM) *
If Nathan won by landslide , why is not in congress????



if he looks the way he does and someone e;se's power is sheildingf how can he be seen in public.
MatKWin
I would say it is most likely because of guilt and a pure hatred of his mother ... or perhaps he is just taking some annual leave or something
Iituem
The logical conclusion seems to be that Nathan may have just 'disappeared' from public life entirely. I still haven't seen any proof that he hasn't just faked his own death/engineered his own disappearance. He certainly seems to be going to a limited degree of trouble not to be recognised any more.

...also, annual leave? Can you really grow that big a beard in two weeks? Damn, these Congressmen must have long vacations.

...or, of course, the vast electoral fraud got uncovered and he got kicked out of Congress.
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