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moogle
i just rembered that when Matt
was talking to her
she went GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
and left the table
she also is really adult about things

perhaps due to her perants getting killed?

i mean i guess stuff like that forces you to grow up
Gargy
QUOTE(moogle @ Oct 1 2007, 01:20 PM) *
i just rembered that when Matt
was talking to her
she went GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
and left the table
she also is really adult about things

perhaps due to her perants getting killed?

i mean i guess stuff like that forces you to grow up


That and nightmares...... rolleyes.gif
Integral
seems like she's seeing maya in her nightmares. The shapes of blood on the eyes of maya's victims look like the drawings she made.
fredipol
I think somebody needs to go to supernanny
Montana
I think it also might be partly due to the fact that Matt kind of treats her more like a little sister than a daughter. So she talks back to him. I don't remember her being particularly lippy with Mohinder? (I need to go rewatch How to Stop an Exploding Man) but Mohinder treats her differently than Matt does.

She was kinda acting a bit like a brat really, I mean she was talking back to Matt (though in a jokey way at first) when he and Mohinder took her under their wing and look after her, they didn't need to do that. She ought to remember that.
Integral
QUOTE
I think somebody needs to go to supernanny


indeed tongue.gif
MultipleMan
I'm hoping that they dont make Molly one of the "cute comic relief" type kid characters.
Gargy
QUOTE(fredipol @ Oct 1 2007, 01:44 PM) *
I think somebody needs to go to supernanny



Uh, Supernanny only works with kids that are out of control for no good reason!! smile.gif
suibhne
What age is Molly made out to be in the show, she looks really young to be a teenager.
Gargy
QUOTE(suibhne @ Oct 1 2007, 02:25 PM) *
What age is Molly made out to be in the show, she looks really young to be a teenager.



She appears to be like 8-10!! smile.gif
hlin250
Maybe Molly doesn't feel as attached to Matt because he wanted to kill her originally. It was Mohinder that was with Molly when she was with the company and she befriended him then, but I think there is still some way to go with Matt because of his prejudice early on.
Jayranger
That's a pretty poor theory because Matt knew Molly and saved her far before he wanted to kill her, plus she never saw him bursting in the room as she was under the bed. Anyway.....I think Molly's outburst is purely to show that she is having a mental problem...Maya she's dreaming about? But she keeps saying 'he' and I'm not sure it's the black oil substance underneath the eyes....
Gargy
QUOTE(hlin250 @ Oct 1 2007, 03:45 PM) *
Maybe Molly doesn't feel as attached to Matt because he wanted to kill her originally. It was Mohinder that was with Molly when she was with the company and she befriended him then, but I think there is still some way to go with Matt because of his prejudice early on.



HRG is the one that wanted to kill her originally.......Matt saved her when he found her, he protected her at the CBI (California Beau of Investigations-still FBI, it's just a brench) HQ, and he kept HRG from shooting her. wink.gif
kunas1
The first episode was very confuse to me, why does molly have that nighmares?? and who is seeing her?



:S
The Big Cheese
QUOTE(MultipleMan @ Oct 1 2007, 06:50 PM) *
I'm hoping that they dont make Molly one of the "cute comic relief" type kid characters.

Somehow I don't think so. She is not really that comic. In fact she is possibly one of the least comic characters.
Gargy
QUOTE(kunas1 @ Oct 1 2007, 03:53 PM) *
The first episode was very confuse to me, why does molly have that nighmares?? and who is seeing her?
:S



That's the point......it's a mystery to be unraveled as the Season goes on.......she has nightmares because the "boogeyman" is haunting her dreams!! smile.gif
kunas1
QUOTE(Gargy @ Oct 1 2007, 12:54 PM) *
That's the point......it's a mystery to be unraveled as the Season goes on.......she has nightmares because the "boogeyman" is haunting her dreams!! smile.gif



Is possible that syler may come back?
Gargy
QUOTE(kunas1 @ Oct 1 2007, 03:57 PM) *
Is possible that syler may come back?



Well, he will be but he's not the "boogeyman"!! cool.gif
kunas1
QUOTE(Gargy @ Oct 1 2007, 12:58 PM) *
Well, he will be but he's not the "boogeyman"!! cool.gif


lol... well he could be the bogeyman for her, I don't remember anytime that molly sad the name syler... and syler die ... didn't he? lool
moogle
i doubt sylar is dead
i mean nooo way
i reckon he was saved by this
man she keeps seeing in her dreams
at the end of seires one she mentions him
i think that him and sylar will join forces

i wonder if this man who can see her is part of the orginisation that mr.nakamura is part of?
now that would make a good twist
HiroIsTheSex
there is also the "bigger boogeyman" who can see her when she looks for him.
And fomr what she was saying in her dreams, I think that is what she is dreaming.
Gargy
QUOTE(kunas1 @ Oct 1 2007, 04:01 PM) *
lol... well he could be the bogeyman for her, I don't remember anytime that molly sad the name syler... and syler die ... didn't he? lool

No, Sylar did not die...he'll be back and Matt asked if she was talking about Sylar in the S1 finale......and Molly said no!! cool.gif
hlin250
QUOTE(Gargy @ Oct 1 2007, 09:48 PM) *
HRG is the one that wanted to kill her originally.......Matt saved her when he found her, he protected her at the CBI (California Beau of Investigations-still FBI, it's just a brench) HQ, and he kept HRG from shooting her. wink.gif


Yes, but didn't it go something like: Matt wanted to kill the walker system and he was told it was a person (i think) but it was only when he realised it was a little girl that he changed his mind and stopped HRG. Perhaps Molly found out about that, so still have mixed feeling about Matt??
Gargy
QUOTE(hlin250 @ Oct 1 2007, 04:12 PM) *
Yes, but didn't it go something like: Matt wanted to kill the walker system and he was told it was a person (i think) but it was only when he realised it was a little girl that he changed his mind and stopped HRG. Perhaps Molly found out about that, so still have mixed feeling about Matt??



No, Matt did not realize it was a person until he saw Molly. smile.gif
hlin250
QUOTE(Gargy @ Oct 1 2007, 10:13 PM) *
No, Matt did not realize it was a person until he saw Molly. smile.gif


Oh dear rolleyes.gif must catch up on my heroes knowledge.......:goes off to study:.......
kunas1
So there are really a boogey men ??, I know that she can find everyone she can , but how can she find a person that doesn't exist? boogeyman don't exist
Gargy
QUOTE(kunas1 @ Oct 1 2007, 04:25 PM) *
So there are really a boogey men ??, I know that she can find everyone she can , but how can she find a person that doesn't exist? boogeyman don't exist



She doesn't have a name, so it really scares her like a Boogeyman would for any little girl!! smile.gif
retrovans
She kind of annoys me. Also, the way her teacher came and spoke to Matt about how she was acting strangely because she was drawing pictures seemed a bit farfetched to me.
zbeep
QUOTE(retrovans @ Oct 1 2007, 01:58 PM) *
She kind of annoys me. Also, the way her teacher came and spoke to Matt about how she was acting strangely because she was drawing pictures seemed a bit farfetched to me.


Not really, if you had a young daughter drawing twisted pictures would not make you wonder what was going though her head? the teacher obviously thinks Molly needs 'help'
Uker
QUOTE(retrovans @ Oct 1 2007, 04:58 PM) *
She kind of annoys me. Also, the way her teacher came and spoke to Matt about how she was acting strangely because she was drawing pictures seemed a bit farfetched to me.



Well, any good teacher would report to the parent about drawings like that....IIRC they had blood on them? And clearly looked bad/evil. (However you want to say it). And im sure the teacher knows that shes not his real daughter so the good parenting thing was brought up.

And on the who "lippy"thing, i believe its the fact she is intelligent and is kind of showing off to matt. (Saying she wont talk if he doesnt) Possibly playful?
Jownathown
She's probably stressed. but those drawings DO intrigue me.
seeminglypointless
"At least Mohinder cooks!"

Oh how I love this little domestic scene already smile.gif I have to say, well done to the actress (can't remember the name) as mostly child actors are incredibly annoying (absolutely no reference to Dakota Fanning at all. Honest.) but she really does pull it off. The only bit that ground on me slightly was her seeming over-reaction at the end of the pizza scene, but that I guess just emphasises how the character feels at the point, I dunno...
retrovans
She's an emotional child, for sure. But altogether, I think she's handled everything that's happened to her pretty well.
Gargy
QUOTE(seeminglypointless @ Oct 1 2007, 05:08 PM) *
"At least Mohinder cooks!"

Oh how I love this little domestic scene already smile.gif I have to say, well done to the actress (can't remember the name) as mostly child actors are incredibly annoying (absolutely no reference to Dakota Fanning at all. Honest.) but she really does pull it off. The only bit that ground on me slightly was her seeming over-reaction at the end of the pizza scene, but that I guess just emphasises how the character feels at the point, I dunno...



She probably wouldn't like me........but, I would at least invest in some cookbooks, cook ware, ingridents, and actually try......might have to do scrambled eggs and toast a lot.........but, she'd know I was trying!! laugh.gif
BlazedOut
anyone hav any theories about this so called bogey man ?
robbo17
yh she needs a slap to shut her up
Gargy
QUOTE(BlazedOut @ Oct 1 2007, 05:14 PM) *
anyone hav any theories about this so called bogey man ?



I think it's the guy that's been showing up at Mohinder's lectures and offers him a job with "The Company"..........and is also, Matt's father. smile.gif
seeminglypointless
QUOTE(BlazedOut @ Oct 1 2007, 11:14 PM) *
anyone hav any theories about this so called bogey man ?

The boogeyman is Sylar, trust me, rewatch the last couple of series one episodes.

As for the one "he's worse than the boogeyman" would it be silly to think that he's the one who killed Kaito Nakamura or are we likely to be in for two completely separate new villains?
Uker
QUOTE(seeminglypointless @ Oct 1 2007, 05:17 PM) *
The boogeyman is Sylar, trust me, rewatch the last couple of series one episodes.

As for the one "he's worse than the boogeyman" would it be silly to think that he's the one who killed Kaito Nakamura or are we likely to be in for two completely separate new villains?



100% its not sylar. Shes not scared to look for sylar, shes scared to look for "the boogyman" dry.gif
titties
QUOTE(seeminglypointless @ Oct 1 2007, 02:17 PM) *
As for the one "he's worse than the boogeyman" would it be silly to think that he's the one who killed Kaito Nakamura


I think it's the same guy that killed Kaito, but maybe it's to obvious...maybe it's Takezo Dave Anders?? I thought he was going to be the boogeyman, but after I saw him drinking sake I'm not very sure he's the "more evil guy" than sylar!
seeminglypointless
QUOTE(Uker @ Oct 1 2007, 02:19 PM) *
100% its not sylar. Shes not scared to look for sylar, shes scared to look for "the boogyman" dry.gif

Nope, the guy she's afraid to look for is the guy she says is "worse than the boogeyman" tongue.gif

At least, I'm pretty sure huh.gif
seeminglypointless
QUOTE(seeminglypointless @ Oct 1 2007, 11:29 PM) *
Nope, the guy she's afraid to look for is the guy she says is "worse than the boogeyman" tongue.gif

At least, I'm pretty sure huh.gif

Whoops, not entirely sure what happened there... Oh well...
minara
QUOTE(hlin250 @ Oct 1 2007, 03:45 PM) *
Maybe Molly doesn't feel as attached to Matt because he wanted to kill her originally. It was Mohinder that was with Molly when she was with the company and she befriended him then, but I think there is still some way to go with Matt because of his prejudice early on.

She kept saying that Matt was her Hero in Ep. 23. I highly doubt she would change her mind all of a sudden and start to hate him.

Part of the reason she was acting differently with Mohinder was because he was acting as her doctor. We have no idea how they act together now that she's under their supervision all the time, what with Mohinder off in Egypt.

I think her lashing out at Matt was just due to the fact that she is really quite terrified by the man in her dreams, and in Ep. 23 she told them she didn't like to think about him because he could see her. It's only reasonable that she became very upset with Matt when he prodded her about the drawings of the eyes. If you knew something terrible would happen to you if you thought about someone specific, and someone else was pressuring you to talk, would you just take it lightly?
Gargy
QUOTE(titties @ Oct 1 2007, 05:25 PM) *
I think it's the same guy that killed Kaito, but maybe it's to obvious...maybe it's Takezo Dave Anders?? I thought he was going to be the boogeyman, but after I saw him drinking sake I'm not very sure he's the "more evil guy" than sylar!



4 Centuries can change a person!! smile.gif
Uker
QUOTE(seeminglypointless @ Oct 1 2007, 05:29 PM) *
Nope, the guy she's afraid to look for is the guy she says is "worse than the boogeyman" tongue.gif

At least, I'm pretty sure huh.gif




oh wow. I misread the persons post entirely. yes, sylar is the boogyman, and the new villain is worse than him.

(Suresh said....can you look for sylar? The boogyman? Also says the boogyman after matt or noah said sylar.....)

sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sorry for confusion...
spoilerguy
QUOTE(Gargy @ Oct 1 2007, 02:37 PM) *
4 Centuries can change a person!! smile.gif


SPOILER ALERT/theory

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Dave ander's character is the boogeyman and he has the power to control insects(maybe explains multiple cockroach instances in season 1?). Im pretty sure it was confirmed yesterday,ill find the article.

















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DarioHeroes
I think Molly´s character will surprise us all at some point during season two ..., that rude reaction she had..., it just made me think that something evil is getting inside her through her dreams or maybe that she´ll turn evil herself or has always been ..., it wouldn´t be the first time the shows makes us think someone is evil and the turns out to be good or the other way around as it happened wiht Claire´s father and the hatian guy ...
Iituem
Molly -is- getting lippy. She seems like one of those eight-turning-twelve-turning-sixteen-turning-thirty-year olds. Mind you, you'd get lippy too with freaky eyes guy staring into your skull.
sabin
when kids try to hide things, they usually get lippy. I have a little brother around the target age and he kinda gets that way with his mom when he's hiding something. Then again, what do i know, I'm here for the nachos.
mrs_frost1
I think she's just scared, but Matt really ought to treat her like a child and set boundaries.... or he could just read her thoughts
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