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Rangy
I've got a question considering Molly's dreams: We have already met Sanjog Iyer who appears in other people's dreams. Can he be the man Molly sees? Mohinder saw him as a little Indian boy playing soccer, could he look different for Molly? (Iyer could also refer to Ayer from the Ayers Rock which is also called Uluru which again leads us to the 9th Wonders and the 'beast' called Uluru...) Too far fetched? Everyone could see him differently. Mohinder liked to see him as a little boy, perhaps representing himself. It could not be just a person but a being that can manipulate people's minds - a powerful weapon for the company, for example.

I think I'm getting too far with this. ;-)
shanniee
QUOTE(Rangy @ Oct 9 2007, 04:28 PM) *
I've got a question considering Molly's dreams: We have already met Sanjog Iyer who appears in other people's dreams. Can he be the man Molly sees? Mohinder saw him as a little Indian boy playing soccer, could he look different for Molly? (Iyer could also refer to Ayer from the Ayers Rock which is also called Uluru which again leads us to the 9th Wonders and the 'beast' called Uluru...) Too far fetched? Everyone could see him differently. Mohinder liked to see him as a little boy, perhaps representing himself. It could not be just a person but a being that can manipulate people's minds - a powerful weapon for the company, for example.

I think I'm getting too far with this. ;-)


Too far fetched but nice thinking though smile.gif

Tim Kring stated that Uluru was merely for the comics and is not a real personage wink.gif

Sanjog Iyer = a kid because there were pictures from Mohinders father about him.
The one who can see Molly in her dreams is someone else.
Jester77
I don't see Sanjog Iyer coming back he served his purpose in showing Mohinder that he had to come back to the States
shanniee
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Oct 9 2007, 10:06 PM) *
I don't see Sanjog Iyer coming back he served his purpose in showing Mohinder that he had to come back to the States


agreed, its just the way its going now Sanjog doesnt fit into the story. So its very likely that it isnt Sanjog.
Montana
I very much doubt it is Sanjog somehow, Sanjog helped Mohinder find his true path in his dreams for sure, but he is not the one "haunting" Molly. Molly can see the bad guy even when she doesn't dream, remember in the season one finale she said "when I think of him, he can see me" - not when she dreams of him (obviously she is thinking of him when she dreams and so is having these unavoidable nightmares).

Molly's bad guy is someone way scarier than Sanjog I am sure.
bignas1234
Hard to see that Sanjog can scare Molly, im sure it's a man who sees her, Sanjog seemed like an innocent kid who showed Mohinder the right path, hard to believe this theory
Ga-chan
Sanjog only appeared in certain people's dreams, to act as a "spiritual guide". The man Molly is scared of isn't only linked to her dreams, whenever she thinks about him, awake or asleep, he can see her. Plus, when Parkman listened in to her dream, it was a man's voice, not the voice of Sanjog.
Mr. Extra Extra
I can see you...
That creeped the hell outta me!
Rangy
I meant it a little differently. Sanjog is no beast, it can't be him, that is for sure. I just meant:
Is it possible that Sanjog is not just Sanjog but something that looks different to everybody? Mohinder saw Sanjog as a little boy. Maybe Molly sees him/it differently. Maybe it can get into people's brains, just like what happened to Angela.

But I think you guys are right, it is something completely different.
titties
You've got a good point there....but I don't think that the little boy is the boogeyman!
Maybe we see him like an evil person because Molly sees him that way....I really don't know! Can't wait to find out!
twelvepointfour
QUOTE(Rangy @ Oct 10 2007, 08:11 PM) *
I meant it a little differently. Sanjog is no beast, it can't be him, that is for sure. I just meant:
Is it possible that Sanjog is not just Sanjog but something that looks different to everybody? Mohinder saw Sanjog as a little boy. Maybe Molly sees him/it differently. Maybe it can get into people's brains, just like what happened to Angela.

But I think you guys are right, it is something completely different.

wasn't Angela's attacker harming her physically? not just getting into her brain???
scottyc
QUOTE(Montana @ Oct 10 2007, 01:50 AM) *
I very much doubt it is Sanjog somehow, Sanjog helped Mohinder find his true path in his dreams for sure, but he is not the one "haunting" Molly. Molly can see the bad guy even when she doesn't dream, remember in the season one finale she said "when I think of him, he can see me" - not when she dreams of him (obviously she is thinking of him when she dreams and so is having these unavoidable nightmares).

Molly's bad guy is someone way scarier than Sanjog I am sure.



I have a feeling Bob has something to do with all this. In fact, I think he is the evil guy Molly sees. I don't particularly trust his character and think he's hiding quite a bit. To me he seems to be the villian this season. I am sure we will find out in due time though.
shanniee
QUOTE(scottyc @ Oct 11 2007, 06:11 PM) *
I have a feeling Bob has something to do with all this. In fact, I think he is the evil guy Molly sees. I don't particularly trust his character and think he's hiding quite a bit. To me he seems to be the villian this season. I am sure we will find out in due time though.


Yes Bob is hiding something..
But to most villains he doesnt look like a super villain like Sylar/ Linderman they got a natural look for being evil...
With Bob I do see some evilness in him but not such a big threat like Sylar and Linderman (which was a great threat).
So I dont think Bob is the nightmare man.
I rather think its Kensei / Kane. David Anders is the type of figure who naturally looks evil.. but thats just my thought and I could be wrong though about everything laugh.gif
bignas1234
He's not just in there to help Heroes with the virus, there is definately something else behind this
rashktah
My guesses for whom the killer is...

- (alternate timeline) Hiro
- Takezo Kensei
- Claude
- (alternate timeline) Peter
teddyboy09
Maybe Sanjog has the hots for Molly.

Eew. biggrin.gif
One_Hiro
QUOTE(shanniee @ Oct 11 2007, 01:28 PM) *
Yes Bob is hiding something..
But to most villains he doesnt look like a super villain like Sylar/ Linderman they got a natural look for being evil...
With Bob I do see some evilness in him but not such a big threat like Sylar and Linderman (which was a great threat).
So I dont think Bob is the nightmare man.
I rather think its Kensei / Kane. David Anders is the type of figure who naturally looks evil.. but thats just my thought and I could be wrong though about everything laugh.gif


Actually the writers casted Bob, not to look like your typical villain. They were even considering having a woman play the part. That's one of the main reasons I think he's the "boogie man" and Parkman's Dad.....think of how big of a reveal/plot twist that would be! I put my money on it, Bob is the boogie man. If Bob is indeed the villian, you would have to rank him up there with Majin Boo from Dragon Ball Z, as MOST UNLIKEY TO BE A VILLIAN BASED ON PHYSICAL APPERANCE.
wils1234
Claude
Kane
Takezo Kensei
Inside
i'd say WEST becouse in 8 Picture of Isaac we saw claire kissing.... sooo its just my guess smile.gif
shanniee
QUOTE(One_Hiro @ Oct 12 2007, 06:59 AM) *
Actually the writers casted Bob, not to look like your typical villain. They were even considering having a woman play the part. That's one of the main reasons I think he's the "boogie man" and Parkman's Dad.....think of how big of a reveal/plot twist that would be! I put my money on it, Bob is the boogie man. If Bob is indeed the villian, you would have to rank him up there with Majin Boo from Dragon Ball Z, as MOST UNLIKEY TO BE A VILLIAN BASED ON PHYSICAL APPERANCE.


yea I know that too, but im thinking what the writers would do.
The writers want to ofcourse have a good storyline with interesting plots and twists.
But if Bob were the nightmare man... People wont feel so frightened... You get what I mean now?
I know that if he was (I dont mind that) that it would shock us but not petrify us when we know its him.
The writers want to ofcourse shock us but also make the person whos the nightmare man look evil.
Think about Sylar... When you watch him he makes you feel petrified by his looks and acting. That makes it so good about Zachary Quinto. Same goes with Noah .. We all thought that he was evil, but in a sense he is evil because of his actions and this makes him so interesting.

With Bob you just see a nerd stereo type with a very nice ability to say it simple (not trying to insult anyone smile.gif )
He is evil but doesnt look like a monster like Sylar is...
If you saw some rage of him or something then I will withdraw my opinion about Bob being the nightmare man.

Like Takezo Kensei, even though you see him being a hero.
He looks so evil even though his actions speak him as a hero.

About your analogy with Majin Buu, yes your are partly correct but as you also know.
Majin Boo doesnt look like evil but you do see his temper and then you know for sure that he is a monster.
When he gets mad then you know for sure that hes a monster.
Untill Bob hasnt showed himself in a rage or something then he defitenely isnt the nightmare man.

Hope you understand my explanation tongue.gif
bignas1234
You can tell syler is evil, his looks and the type of voice he puts on
like when he was talking to Candice, in that deep threatening voice he said
'SHOW ME'
shanniee
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Oct 15 2007, 02:29 AM) *
You can tell syler is evil, his looks and the type of voice he puts on
like when he was talking to Candice, in that deep threatening voice he said
'SHOW ME'


yea that voice is so nice biggrin.gif
I love it when Sylar speaks like that haha biggrin.gif
Rangy
My question was in the "Behind the Eclipse"-Interview yesterday, I'm a little proud ;-) :

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Alex Rangy from Germany wants to know about Molly's dreams. "We have already met Sanjog Iyer, who appears in other people's dreams. Can he be the man Molly sees? Mohinder saw him as a little Indian boy playing soccer; could he look different for Molly? (Iyer could also refer to Ayer from the Ayers Rock which is also called Uluru which again leads us to the 9th Wonders and the 'beast' called Uluru...) Too far fetched?"

Not far fetched enough. To be honest, we considered Sanjog when telling this story – but opted against it for a few reasons. But in classic "Heroes" fashion, the nightmare man will be revealed next episode.
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