If I had a super-power like Candice I wouldn't let a potential murderer know my real location.

She can create all these images, but she over-lays the one she's using over her real location!

Think about it, she could just sit back in the corner and make the fake her from there. That way when Sylar tried to do her in with the cup, he would have whiffed nothing and she could laugh at him.

He had no super-hearing or other abilities to help isolate where she really is.

On a side note, I think Sylar has the virus, and the company originally released it and just keeps the anti-dote from people they lose control of.

I also think the blue light in the first episode was Peter using the Ice power. He could effectively freeze the water already in the air, and it would go forward like a shockwave.

Well it looks like Candice has really been killed. The writers have confirmed it. Missy Peregrym has taken up a job with another show.

And i think your right, Sylar has the virus. He can't use his powers, even his main power..How things work.
Notice how he didnt cut Candices head off..he forgot how to take peoples powers

First of all, she was trying to gain his trust, and knew that he was unable to use his powers, therefor, never expected him to lash out at her.

I highly doubt that the "Company" released a strain of the virus, not without having an antidote for it, otherwise some of their operatives would be in danger, and as Mohinder's blood hold the only knows antidote, it would have been pretty damn stupid for them to have done so.

the "blue flash" you're talking about was Peter using Electrical Manipulation, which he's seemingly picked up within the last 4 months. He uses it again in "Lizards".

What other evidence have they shown of electrical manipulation? Or that is what it really is? I'm just speculating, either of us could be right.

Plus, the company used to have a healer. So Mohinder's blood hasn't always been the only cure.

But think, Sylar and the Haitian have both lost their powers recently, and both have been uncontrolable by the Company.

As I said, in "Lizards" Peter uses Electrical Manipulation in the bar to attack one of the guys.

A Specific gene in Mohinder's blood seems to be the only remedy to this "plague". Im not ruling out the "Company" having a play in releasing the virus, but I'm only saying it seems a bit sketchy to me, but, thats's personal opinion. And i'm still at odds withmyself about whether or not Sylar has the virus, it seems too easy to me, but at the same time, it seems logical.

As I said, where's the evidence. I see he used the same power -- yes, I'll admit that. I'll admit it's possibly electrical manipulation. I'm also saying an ice power could produce similar effects, and is personally the one I think we're witnessing.

So, evidence please.

It's a safe assumption, first of all, we know he has Electrical Manipulation as a power, as shown in "Lizards". At first, i thought that the blue flash was a mixture of him using Telekinesis, and the "Burn bright, not hot" feature of Ted's radioactivity, but then after seeing Peter go all Zap-happy next episode, i pushed the thought from my mind, as it made no sense. I do ask, where would Peter have gotten Freezing from, we're not even sure where Sylar got it from. Plus, crystalising water vapour in the air producing ice would not create a huge flash like that, electricity does.

Even if he did have electric power, which you don't know where he could have gotten it from. We know Sylar had freezing abilities, where they came from does not matter any more. They are there. We know a guy in some hospital in the comic had electric abilities.

From what I seen in the comic book, the guy has to absorb electricity first before he can use it. Just like physics states energy cannot be created or destroyed. Peter wouldn't be able to create energy out of thin air. The water is already there, and if it was a flash freeze it could possibly stay in liquid form longer than expected.

If it was electricity, we would see Peter getting it from another source first.

That comic is based in an alternate future, 1 year after the events of the Kirby Plaza Showdown, in that comic, Peter also absorbs the powers of someone with super-speed, and a more powerful version of Niki's super-strength. The other guy, the energy-guy, did have to absorb electricity first, yes, i do agree with you there. One of the upcoming characters in Heroes, Elle, has the power to generate and manipulate electricity, obviously not creating the raw energy, but possibly manipulating the static energy in her body, who knows (yet anyway). All the same, she can generate it, kinda like Claire's biological mother creates fire out of thin air, it's the same principle, although, i suppose instead of being a pyrokinetic, it would make Peter electrokinetic.

Flash freezing would freeze the water molecules faster than any other kind of freezing, plus, mater itself is transparent, therefor would not create a blue Flash.

It did seem odd to me also that candice would give herself away like that.... but yeah i guess she just wasnt expecting it so she acted carelessly. What im wondering is why would she be helping Sylar and who was she on the phone with...

As to the power Peter was using i havent seen the comic so im not sure about the elctic guy that was mentioned but it still seemed like peter was using an electic power, i don't think that an ice ability would produce light. And as to were Sylar got the freeze ability from i think it was from Mollys dad.

When Molly was found under the staircare we saw her dad frozen at the dinner table, partly decapitated. So my guess is that Sylar took his ability and then to play with/test it he used it on Mollys dad.

They could be manipulating local electrical fields already there, yes. But the blue light! Blue electricity is often associated with some of the more powerful electricity (lightning). I really doubt a small amount of static energy could produce such a power without drawing from somewhere else.

Yes, flash freezing goes faster, but it often goes so fast depending on certain variables it will stay liquid below normal freezing temperatures.

Fire is the use of energy, not energy. You can burn the oxygen in the air, the buildings, etc. It can be created, but depends on energy which cannot be created. Slight difference.

He couldn't have got the freezing from Molly's dad, He was frozen before he was decapitated.


God, i need to stop sounding like i'm picking fights, don't I. Im really sorry sirgrim if it seems like i was attacking you there.

I have no problem discussing alternate theories. Obviously we differ, but we try to discuss. It's fun.

Now, had you said I was wrong and left it there, I would not have been as appreciative. I enjoy discussing, and believe me, if I am wrong I like to know

It's possible Sylar got it before, and that Molly's dad has super-speed or something that Sylar would have used his freezing to stop him so he could actually catch the guy. We still don't know how Sylar was able to sneak up on the super-hearing lady without his footsteps being heard.

I'd never be that blunt, I hate people that do that, think their opinion is the only way to go. Nah, I like a good debate about these issues, 'cause either way, we could both turn out to be wrong LOL!

Although, I think that if Molly's dad had super-speed and Sylar has taken that power, he would use it a lot more, and Hiro would never have got that sword to play peek-a-boo with his ribs.

I really can't think of a reason as to how he managed to get around Dale's super-hearing, although, when she asked him why she couldn't hear his footsteps, his answer was "Maybe because there weren't any." which could imply a variety of different abilities.

It could be just that he doesn't want others to know. Keeps a trump card away from view if you will.

We seen him move quickly for Dayle and at Homecoming, that I remember at least. Oh, and how he snuck up on Peter and Noah in kirby plaza. Never shows how, and it appears he wants it that way. It could be a few powers, from flight, to super-speed, to phase shifting. Something where an early power-hungry murder would want to stop them instead of playing catch. Flight could probably be handled with TK easy enough, though.

Telekinesis was my though, just use it to hover up to her, get close enough so that she couldn't find some way to wriggle out of losing her head. It'll take alot to convince me that Sylar has super-speed, i think that there's just too many circumstances that it would have sensible to use it, such as, Claire wouldn't have got away in "homecoming", he woulda just zipped straight up to her and killed her.

Wow, we didn't half veer off-topic, didn't we? So much for the thread being about Candice!

Definately could of been TK, but you would think she would of at least heard his heartbeat coming if that was the case. Seems like he appeared out of nowhere. Hopefully we'll find out this season.

As for Claire, remember how he zipped right up to Charlie and killed her. He could have just been toying with Claire. She was also going to the stadium because Peter said Sylar didn't want to be seen.

So many questions! Candice is still weak

Since you guys seem to debating and argueing about "dead horses" partially we already beat over season one with a sledgehammer and additional argueing about peters new ability that proves that you didn't read the confirmation of the writers I'll try to explain a few things:

- Sylar didn't got cryokinesis from Mister Walker, he got it either from David (Comics) or one of the other two unknown victims(Male and female on the fbi photos).

- Peter uses indeed a new power and it is electricity manipulation (it was confirmed that it was a new power we didn't saw before)

- Candice wasn't weak, she was one of the very few that had so much control over their ability so fast in the whole show(check the comics)!
The only reason she died like that was because the writers (as confirmed) changed her storyline(originaly she would be in several episodes of season 2 together with sylar, probably as a pair) and not mainly as reason why missy is in another show since the character is the most easiest one to recast due to its power.

-We weren't debating if he got it from Mister Walker so much as why it was used on him.

-Ice would be a new power to Peter.. Where was it confirmed this was a new power and electricity?

-Weak-fu. Evolution, survival of the fittest. She could have never been caught with her power. Someone with invisiblity like Claude would be more prone to thinking about not being seen. She was prone to making others see what she wanted, poor Betty.

The latest graphic novel 54 I think, it is called petrified lightning. And it is about peter. Peter's power is indeed something to do with electricity. He calls it lightning as a matter of fact. Check it out.

I loved Missy Peregrym. It's a shame...

Thanks. Guess I missed one along the way, thought I read this weeks. Good comic this week

There is no evidence that Molly's Dad was frozen BEFORE he was decapitated. All we have is that image of Molly's dad frozen with is head cut off. For all we know, Sylar could have sliced his head off (taken the freezing power), then froze him just to test his new powers.

Is it not true though, in theory... that now Peter has all the powers that Sylar used to have? (since he met him at Kirby Plaza) so he would have the freezing power if sylar had in fact stole it from Molly's dad or before...

Syler has the freezing power so Peter will have abviously absorbed all his powers at that time, he just doesn't know he has it so can't use it

The first one of you had said I guess that he got cryokinesis from walker? O_o
Anyway, my guess always was that he either already knew that walker might have a power that can negate or escape telekinesis and used because of this cryokinesis in a surpricing manner(since his cryokinesis needs a little time to really freeze someone)

Cryokinesis is one of the powers that peter got a long time ago.
Though since he never really noticed or used it, it would be a new power for him.
However, this wasn't the power he used on the mob. ^^

As about Candice/Betty/Michelle, it was indeed a very weak plot they pulled of obviously really fast so they can get rid of the character after the storyline they had prepared for her wouldn't be used anymore.

If I would be one of the writers, I would had let her join, Matt, Molly and Mohinder to help them against the company or even give it a twist and let her save someone from Sylar by fooling him. ^^
I will miss her a lot!

I agree. I think the writers probably thought it would be weaker to have someone else portray Candice throughout the whole storyline than to kill her off. It would be much less lame than in other shows though, in which the actor who is leaving doesn't usually play a character who can completely change her appearance. I think they should have taken advantage of the opportunity. You don't get a "freebie" like that too often.

I also think it forced them to make Sylar act a tad uncharacteristically. It's not so much that he callously killed the person who had saved him in cold blood, but the fact that the act was impulsive and not in his best interest. One could argue that his current lack of abilities somehow caused this, but I still feel like Sylar always been a calculating individual since his introduction and he would have wanted to use Candice a while before rubbing her out, or at least he would have known that killing the only person he has seen since waking up is not a good idea, especially since he really doesn't know what's going on. I'll get over it though.