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QUOTE(JessicaSanders @ Nov 25 2007, 06:49 PM) *
thanks smile.gif its from a promo pic of ep 13.


promo pic from ep 13??

do you have a link...??

they have not even filmed ep 13 so how can there be a promo pic...??

just wondering smile.gif
JessicaSanders
sorry meant my av being from 1x13 the fix. Was supposed to be more scenes of her in the asylum
Hayler sanders
NOOOOOOO !!!! NIKI CANT DIE !!!! FXCK THE HEROES WRITERS STRIKE !!! BECAUSE OF IT , SEASON 2 IS CUT SHORT AND WE FIND OUT THAT 2 HEROES ARE GONNA DIE !!! WELL , IT SURE AS HELL BETTER NOT BE NIKI...LET THEM KILL JESSICA FOR ALL I CARE BUT IF THEY TOUCH NIKI , I'LL BE SOOOOOOOOO angry... angry.gif angry.gif angry.gif angry.gif angry.gif angry.gif angry.gif

But then again i'll have Elle and Claire to watch .... They're great at kickin @$$ !

Wait ... D.L's a firefighter right ? GODDAMN !!! WHY'D HE HAVE TO DIE SO EARLY !!! THE LEAST HE COULD'VE DONE FOR NIKI IS SAVE HER INSTEAD OF WHINING AROUND AND LOOKING FOR A WAY TO PAY THE RENT !!! GOD ! The one time micah and niki really need his help , HE'S ALREADY DEAD ....

QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Nov 22 2007, 02:37 PM) *
Pictures would not spoil like that...I guess we can look at it like this too You think she is dead and than the next thing you know she is right there alive...I think that is what might happen but Ia m guessing.Hey do you post at the Message board at Ali's site JessicaSanders...I asked people this question awhile ago but go no answers...I do not want to join the board if there is nobody there Ia m familiar with...'
NikiPetreli I agree with you if she goes what is the point to watch anymore...I think it is terrible to put somebody out of a job like that....As much as I like Kristen Bell there is no point for me to watch anymore if Ali is gone too....I don't think Hayden is ugly but the character is really annoying but still no point to watch for me without Ali.....It is rough to watch the end of Final Destination 2 because they Kill Ali off that but I still watch FD2 it is a bit different with "heroes" though.

OMg ! i AGREE with you.. I remember watching final destination 2 too and when clear rivers died i didnt watch the rest of the movie..

Doc
I can't believe you would stop watching a TV Show/Movie because a character died.

That's just ridiculous. One character doesn't make a show good (especially one like this). If Sylar were to die in the finale, I would not stop watching...despite the fact that he is my favorite character on the show by far. I don't get why you would watch a show like Heroes because of one character.
JessicaSanders
its not they are killing her off its hte way and why of it. feels like crapping writing to me if htey kill her off after all this exposition to explain the character its like. oopsie peopel didnt get it lets kill her off nad forget it if htey kill her off. its moreso me seeing them as giving up.
Doc
QUOTE(JessicaSanders @ Nov 30 2007, 06:47 AM) *
its not they are killing her off its hte way and why of it. feels like crapping writing to me if htey kill her off after all this exposition to explain the character its like. oopsie peopel didnt get it lets kill her off nad forget it if htey kill her off. its moreso me seeing them as giving up.


Well, you know, it could play a huge part in Micah/Monica's development. I'm sure they wouldn't just kill of a character for no reason.
Niki*Peter
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Nov 7 2007, 08:47 PM) *
I still think they are making it too obvious to be her but if it is true she is the one who drew me to the show....I have known who Ali was the last 10 years from the things she was in...So since she drew me to the show if she goes I am sorry to say but so do I...I do apologize if that sounds lame and ridiculous to everyone though.



I read some thing, it was Kristen Bell talking about spoilers for the show. She stated that 3 characters die. One of them dies permanently, the other dies but it is reversed (because of claires blood) and the other one dies and it is uncertain.

I hope Niki doesn't die. That would suck. I really believe, and i'm sorry for Hiro fan, but that he is going to die. I don't think he fit into the story line for the longest time, then he finally fit in at the last episode. I also think he is going to realized that his time traveling caused all of these problems to begin with, his fathers death, the soon-to-be released Shanti virus, etc. He also doesn't avenge his fathers death so i think he might die, whether it be by his choice or him being murdered. In any case i think it would be better if no Hero had to die...maybe Adam Monroe, i'm ok with that.

and plus what about the Niki and Peter realtionship we saw in five years gone? She can't die and thn the relationship would have never happened?! I mean come on they're the hottest couple!

QUOTE(Hayler sanders @ Nov 29 2007, 11:18 AM) *
NOOOOOOO !!!! NIKI CANT DIE !!!! FXCK THE HEROES WRITERS STRIKE !!! BECAUSE OF IT , SEASON 2 IS CUT SHORT AND WE FIND OUT THAT 2 HEROES ARE GONNA DIE !!! WELL , IT SURE AS HELL BETTER NOT BE NIKI...LET THEM KILL JESSICA FOR ALL I CARE BUT IF THEY TOUCH NIKI , I'LL BE SOOOOOOOOO angry... angry.gif angry.gif angry.gif angry.gif angry.gif angry.gif angry.gif

But then again i'll have Elle and Claire to watch .... They're great at kickin @$$ !

Wait ... D.L's a firefighter right ? GODDAMN !!! WHY'D HE HAVE TO DIE SO EARLY !!! THE LEAST HE COULD'VE DONE FOR NIKI IS SAVE HER INSTEAD OF WHINING AROUND AND LOOKING FOR A WAY TO PAY THE RENT !!! GOD ! The one time micah and niki really need his help , HE'S ALREADY DEAD ....
OMg ! i AGREE with you.. I remember watching final destination 2 too and when clear rivers died i didnt watch the rest of the movie..


OMg same i cried at the end of FD2 when she died! i knew what happened after cuz i watched the ending before but i just turned it off. I was so happy at the end of FD1 when she lived, then they had to go and kill her
Melissa78
QUOTE(Doc @ Nov 30 2007, 03:37 AM) *
I can't believe you would stop watching a TV Show/Movie because a character died.

That's just ridiculous. One character doesn't make a show good (especially one like this). If Sylar were to die in the finale, I would not stop watching...despite the fact that he is my favorite character on the show by far. I don't get why you would watch a show like Heroes because of one character.



Why on God's green earth does it bother you on what we want to do?...It is our decision and it needs to be respected not disrespected I am tired of our decisions and what we want to do if Niki dies being attacked ...We have every right to watch "Heroes" even if we have just one favorite character...It does not mean we do not like other characters

I respect the fact you would still watch if your favorite charater bit it...Now you need to respect my decision and others who decide to stop watching if Niki died... .......
Doc
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Nov 30 2007, 07:34 PM) *
Why on God's green earth does it bother you on what we want to do?...It is our decision and it needs to be respected not disrespected I am tired of our decisions and what we want to do if Niki dies being attacked ...We have every right to watch "Heroes" even if we have just one favorite character...It does not mean we do not like other characters

I respect the fact you would still watch if your favorite charater bit it...Now you need to respect my decision and others who decide to stop watching if Niki died... .......


Wow, way to completely flip out over nothing. I'm not disrespecting your actions at all. I just don't see why you would bother watching heroes if you just wait to see Niki all the time and then when she gets killed off, just stop. It just seems like a waste of time.

Chill out.
Hayler sanders
I got this off E!News...


"In next week's winter finale, three Heroes will die.

We'll call the first death Final, the second death Uncertain and the third death Reversed (thanks to Claire's miracle juice—yay!). (And no, they don't go down in that order.)

Although you may be shocked by all of these deaths—because they are all series regulars and very pretty people!—you probably won't cry over Final or Reversed (that's just my hunch). But if Uncertain turns out to stick, well, let's just say the Heroes producers best be stocking up on some hazmat suits for the s--t storm that's about to erupt! The fans will not be happy.

(P.S.: In other winter-finale news, Mama Petrelli just might be the worst mother ever in the history of the planet, while Noah Bennet has my vote for Father of the Year, while Sylar is the Comeback Kid.)

Now, who do you think is doomed to die next week?"

I'm kinda hoping that Niki'll be the second death , then they'll make her story end as a cliffhanger and let it continue next season...
JessicaSanders
yea i'm rather sure shes the uncertain. cant be a final unless you actually SEE her die on screen. Its been kinda proven on heroes you aint dead until we see your grave.
Melissa78
QUOTE(Hayler sanders @ Dec 1 2007, 10:46 AM) *
I got this off E!News...
"In next week's winter finale, three Heroes will die.

We'll call the first death Final, the second death Uncertain and the third death Reversed (thanks to Claire's miracle juice—yay!). (And no, they don't go down in that order.)

Although you may be shocked by all of these deaths—because they are all series regulars and very pretty people!—you probably won't cry over Final or Reversed (that's just my hunch). But if Uncertain turns out to stick, well, let's just say the Heroes producers best be stocking up on some hazmat suits for the s--t storm that's about to erupt! The fans will not be happy.

(P.S.: In other winter-finale news, Mama Petrelli just might be the worst mother ever in the history of the planet, while Noah Bennet has my vote for Father of the Year, while Sylar is the Comeback Kid.)

Now, who do you think is doomed to die next week?"

I'm kinda hoping that Niki'll be the second death , then they'll make her story end as a cliffhanger and let it continue next season...



Well I did see a promo online it looked like Elle was in trouble I hope they don't kill her either and I definitely hope they don't kill Niki....I think Kring is so d*** ridiculous He gives these people great jobs on a great show that is so darn popular than goes and kills them off putting them out of jobs and lots of lost money in their pockets what an A$$hole Kring that is.... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Doc @ Dec 1 2007, 03:08 AM) *
Wow, way to completely flip out over nothing. I'm not disrespecting your actions at all. I just don't see why you would bother watching heroes if you just wait to see Niki all the time and then when she gets killed off, just stop. It just seems like a waste of time.

Chill out.



Well it is not to me....
Atheshar
Though I like all the characters and would love to see their storylines continued... from a dramatic perspective, people are going to have to die to keep the tension up. I mean, even a genius like Tolkien ended up with a body count at the end. Though I mourn the passing of those who didn't make it through, I don't consider it mean of him.

Similarly here.
Melissa78
QUOTE(Atheshar @ Dec 2 2007, 01:39 AM) *
Though I like all the characters and would love to see their storylines continued... from a dramatic perspective, people are going to have to die to keep the tension up. I mean, even a genius like Tolkien ended up with a body count at the end. Though I mourn the passing of those who didn't make it through, I don't consider it mean of him.

Similarly here.



In my opinion I think it is very rude, cruel, and higly obnoxious of him...He is indeed a creep in my opinion and if he wants to keep killing off the characters we all grew to love in S1 and in S2 as well as other future seasons than I hope he is prepared for when his show goes down the tubes...

Because it lost some ratings this year do to adding new Heroes and he knows it so he will keep losing ratings because people will probably get tired of his lets kill the characters people know and grew to love so I can add sucky boring annoying character game and give up on the show...He keeps this up this great show is going to go down the tubes in my opinion.
qinrawks
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Dec 2 2007, 01:02 PM) *
Well I did see a promo online it looked like Elle was in trouble I hope they don't kill her either and I definitely hope they don't kill Niki....I think Kring is so d*** ridiculous He gives these people great jobs on a great show that is so darn popular than goes and kills them off putting them out of jobs and lots of lost money in their pockets what an A$$hole Kring that is.... rolleyes.gif
Well it is not to me....


Uh... So you're saying all shows shouldn't have people dying? That is just completely ridiculous. It's HEROES, and in this type of shows, people have to die. It can't be one big happy fairytale.

Even if Niki is not the one that dies, someone else will, and their diehard fans will just stop watching the show as well..

Thank God that's not me, because it's stupid to give up an entire show just because of the death of my favourite character.
maxxann
QUOTE(qinrawks @ Dec 2 2007, 05:57 PM) *
Uh... So you're saying all shows shouldn't have people dying? That is just completely ridiculous. It's HEROES, and in this type of shows, people have to die. It can't be one big happy fairytale.

Even if Niki is not the one that dies, someone else will, and their diehard fans will just stop watching the show as well..

Thank God that's not me, because it's stupid to give up an entire show just because of the death of my favourite character.


True. this series should be the closest thing to life. Someone has to die somehow with all those powers flying around their noses... LOL laugh.gif
Melissa78
QUOTE(qinrawks @ Dec 2 2007, 05:57 AM) *
Uh... So you're saying all shows shouldn't have people dying? That is just completely ridiculous. It's HEROES, and in this type of shows, people have to die. It can't be one big happy fairytale.

Even if Niki is not the one that dies, someone else will, and their diehard fans will just stop watching the show as well..

Thank God that's not me, because it's stupid to give up an entire show just because of the death of my favourite character.



Yeah it is just my opinion... Sorry if that is such a bother to many of you here. .... dry.gif
JessicaSanders
I got my fingers crossed she lives sorry all niki haters out there but the rumors just dont get supported by any facts for hte reasons beleived that she dies.
Melissa78
QUOTE(JessicaSanders @ Dec 2 2007, 01:29 PM) *
I got my fingers crossed she lives sorry all niki haters out there but the rumors just dont get supported by any facts for hte reasons beleived that she dies.



I am with you Jessica Sanders I am hoping and praying she does not die... cool.gif
DcHeroes
Can they please kill West? I mean seriously I was watching Lizards today and he is telling claire about papa suresh's book activating evolution and he tells her he can barely pronounce his name i mean seriously how hard is chandra suresh why should nikki die when this dumbo could easily die and no one would really care?
HMediaKristen
Wow... I didn't realize that anyone liked Nikki. No one I know who watches the show likes her. Ever since the beginning, her storyline has been the worst written. The actress has done they best she could with what she's given, but seriously, all it's been is "OMG, I'm so weak. I have another personality! I'm going to do this for my son. All that matters is my son. Mica!"

My hope is that Nikki, Maya and Elle bite it.

As for those that are hating on people for no longer watching the show if one of the characters die: I'm with them on it. If Noah had really died, I would've stopped watching. Same for Hiro and Peter. Claire was good last season, but she hasn't been doing all that great this season.
JessicaSanders
theres actually quite a few of us smile.gif running a fansite for the character ran me into meeting quite a few via forums/email. as a whole most dont post on forums cause they dont get the best attitudes back. Honestly it was ali larters acting more htne the character htat pulled me in. I learnt of teh show when godsend aired nad loved the scene with her/jessica and hte lawyer.
HMediaKristen
I understand that. Like I said, I have nothing against the actress. Ali Larter is actually doing quite well with what she's given, even if what she's given is a broken record. Nikki could've been so interesting, but they stunted her with such a terrible storyline. So I hope she's removed and Ali can find some better work. smile.gif
Melissa78
QUOTE(HMediaKristen @ Dec 2 2007, 08:51 PM) *
Wow... I didn't realize that anyone liked Nikki. No one I know who watches the show likes her. Ever since the beginning, her storyline has been the worst written. The actress has done they best she could with what she's given, but seriously, all it's been is "OMG, I'm so weak. I have another personality! I'm going to do this for my son. All that matters is my son. Mica!"

My hope is that Nikki, Maya and Elle bite it.

As for those that are hating on people for no longer watching the show if one of the characters die: I'm with them on it. If Noah had really died, I would've stopped watching. Same for Hiro and Peter. Claire was good last season, but she hasn't been doing all that great this season.



I like Niki and her storyline and see her as a Goodhearted mom who will do anything for Micah my mom would do the same for me and my younger brother and if I had children I too would do anythinng for them. So I see no problem with doing anything for your Children. . Man I want her superstrength throwing people around when they piss me off gives me thrill...

Anyway I am with you about Maya hoping she bites but I am not with you on Niki and Elle sorry I want them to stay...However I do see Ia m not the only one who will stop watching if her number one fave character bites it.
Raekon
Well when Candice died I was pissed but stayed.
When D.L. died I did the same. Most of all cause of the lame deaths they had and the reason why they put out those characters. Both were my favorites from season one.

Nikki is another one and even I wouldn't like to happen or hope to be wrong with it, I think it will look this way:

Uncertain Death = Sylar
Certain/Final Death = Nikki
Reversed Death = Maya

I know it sucks a lot and I would rather have Sylar to be the final death since he has fullfilled his purpose in my opinion.

However... everything looks as if Nikki will be the one that's final. sad.gif
If she is caught into that explosion, she would turn out into pieces no matter superstrength or not and from that you can't be reversed anymore. sad.gif

As about the new characters, I like them and I think that they were needed since they should bring a new breeze into the show. However, due to many storyline changes and bad writing many people turned out to hate those characters which is actually very sad because in my opinion they all had good potential.

I'm sad that Alejandro traveled half earth only to be used as cannon fodder while they could had connected him with maya into the main virus plot.

What my main grief was the bad writing in many ways and plots as also the fact that the show turned out to make out of every single character a dumbster. -.-
I guess there was another virus that made them so?

I understand that it's wanted mainly as a "Drama" show but killing the whole line or having almost every character whining the whole time to keep the drama going is weak plotting/writing.
JessicaSanders
whats confusing about it is obviously she gets monica quite far out sans powers which means monica really cant be trapped or anything so she could be quite far out before explosion guess we find out tonight.
liam
like someone said no matter who dies people will be dissapointed and to the person who said about killing characters and ratings going down because of them if we didnt introduce new chracters the story would not change much very few shows can get away without introducing new character one fo the few that can is lost and even they bring some in
heroeswhatever
5 minute sneak peek, Powerless”. In it, you’ll see Mohinder coming home to find Sylar waiting with Maya; back at The Company headquarters, HRG is working over Elle, when Bob bursts in to break up their little talk; in New Orleans, Micah goes to Niki to help him save the captured Monica; and in Odessa, Texas, Peter and Adam Monroe proceeds on their mission to “destroy” the Shanti virus. It appears as if Peter’s duel with Hiro wasn’t much of a fight, because Peter’s still in one piece and Hiro is nowhere to be seen.

http://www.watchheroestv.com/episode/category/news/index.php

Melissa78
QUOTE(liam @ Dec 3 2007, 03:24 PM) *
like someone said no matter who dies people will be dissapointed and to the person who said about killing characters and ratings going down because of them if we didnt introduce new chracters the story would not change much very few shows can get away without introducing new character one fo the few that can is lost and even they bring some in


Well I was the person who said that and in my opinion if the creep we call Kring keeps killing the main characters replace them with boring sucky characters ratings will drop they already have....After tonight if Niki is the staying dead one I will not have to worry about it because I will be done with the show so let me say my goodbye's ahead....A couple of you may still see me around heroes-tv.com....I am off to go watch "Heroes" now

Take Care bye
shadow06jm
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Dec 3 2007, 06:06 PM) *
I am off to go watch "Heroes" now

Take Care bye




ur gonna watch it awreaddii?!?

argh..



what a Lucky ************* laugh.gif tongue.gif
Juz kddin... stiLL waitin for the downLoad
Misunderstood
Saw it. My fave character just doesn't seem to get a break sad.gif
LFM
Hm, this "insider" was quite right.. except for the virus part.. Maybe they changed it so there could be something new for Volume 3
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