travis
Oct 16 2007, 10:37 PM
T’S HERO VS. HERO AS THE SERIES’ VOLUME II: GENERATIONS COMES TO AN EXPLOSIVE, BLOODY FINISH – Deep below Primatech Paper in Odessa, TX, Peter’s (Milo Ventimiglia) reunion with Nathan (Adrian Pasdar) turns violent when the brothers, Matt (Greg Grunberg) and Hiro (Masi Oka) all clash thanks to Adam (David Anders) and his pursuit of the deadly Shanti Virus. After watching his heroic cousin captured by a street gang, Micah (Noah Gray-Cabey) turns to the one person who can help him save Monica (Dana Davis) — his mom (Ali Larter). Meanwhile, Maya (Dania Ramirez) tragically learns how much of a monster Sylar (Zachary Quinto) really is during his kidnapping of Molly (Adair Tishler) and Suresh (Sendhil Ramamurthy). Meanwhile, Elle (Kristen Bell) decides to play hero to get back into her father’s (Stephen Tobolowsky) good graces. Jack Coleman, James Kyson Lee and Hayden Panettiere also star.
vikesh10
Nov 2 2007, 07:34 PM
This was posted on NBC forum by some user
*Episode 11 is titled ‘POWERLESS’
*Look for our intro of Earth spinning (during title HEROES scene) to just abruptly stop. (due to continuation of Hiro’s time freeze from the previous ep.)
*Kensei is immortal, he cannot be killed. His name will no longer be known as Kensei but ADAM MONROE. The original 12 have betrayed him in the past and Kensei/Adam will be taking revenge upon the original 12. And yes, it’s still David Anders playing the Kensei/Adam part. But gone are the samurai outfits replaced by sharp looking suits.
*Peter will be helping Kensei/Adam at Primatech to get/destroy the virus. By this point, Peter has seen the future and the devastation of the virus. He has come to this particular time/place with Adam to destroy the virus. He knows it will kill pretty much everybody. What he doesnt know is Adam’s true intention for the virus.
When asked by Hiro why he’s helping Adam, Peter claims that Adam is his friend. And also mentions that Adam saved Nathan’s life. Hiro will try to convince Peter that he was betrayed by Adam 400 yrs ago and that he will betray Peter also. Hiro is also trying to avenge his father’s death since Adam’s the one who killed him, along with the other older generations. Peter will argue back letting Hiro know that Kaito’s the one who had Adam locked away for 30 yrs. He will mention that he was also in the same prison. Peter clearly states that he does not want to hurt Hiro.
The showdown at Primatech will mainly be between Hiro and Peter since Adam will be frozen in time. They are also not alone in this room, there are Primatech employees who’ll be frozen in time during this. The swings Hiro throws will be blocked by Peter telekinetically.
When Hiro has the sword to Peter’s throat, Peter will shock his sword with electricity knocking him out. Adam will shortly ‘reclaim’ his sword coming out of being frozen.
*Matt will ‘fly.’ Ofcourse with the help of Nathan to Primatech. Keep your ears perked up for a hilarious comment Matt makes once they land.
Matt will inquire to Nathan about just how dangerous Peter is. (comparing him to the Kirby Plaza incident.) Nathan informs Matt that he himself hasn’t seen Peter since that night. Matt is trying to explain to Nathan that Angela gave him instructions on how to kill her own son Peter. IF NEED BE!!! Nathan won’t hear any of it and basically tells Matt that he will handle Peter if he’s a problem. Hiro will join in with Nathan and Matt.
*Peter is opening the vaults, straining himself, even bleeding from his nose in trying. He will instruct Adam to get the virus. Its at this point Hiro will attempt once again to stop Adam, Peter. But Peter’s belief within Adam is so strong he will stop Hiro.
Matt will join in and tells Peter (mentally) to let go of Hiro and go after Adam instead. Peter seems to follow his direction but he will resist (mentally) to Matt.
*Nathan will release Angela from jail. Angela will be pretty much the only one left out of all her ‘friends’/original 12. The latest victim being Victoria Pratt. Matt will be the one who’ll find Victoria’s body in Maine along with the photo with the ‘death mark’ across her face. Angela explains to Nathan and Matt that it’s done and over with, Adam is wanting revenge and she feels defeated and its over. It’s at this point Nathan will explain to Angela that Peter is still alive.
*Hiro will take his defeat in shame back to Japan where Ando is. He will have failed his father and let the virus get out.
We’ll also find out the fate of Adam. He’ll be buried alive next to Kaito’s grave in a metal coffin also reinforced with a concrete casket. Look for our favorite rodent, the infamous cockroach, to make his little cameo.
*Look for Nathan to give an ‘unoffical’ speech addressing the world regarding the virus outbreak that happens in Odessa, TX. Nathan clearly states to the persistent reporter to find someone who’s in charge, not him. He will NOT want to give this speech and only does so when he is pushed by a reporter named Bruce Evans. All the reporters will be broadcasting his speech from the police station in Odessa, TX. This reluctant speech will be broadcasted throughout the world and be viewed by our heroes.
In his speech, he’s mentioning how brave the people in this town have been by locking themselves in for the safety of the rest of the world. It’ll be quite inspirational and uplifting. Also, you’ll see why the ep. title is called POWERLESS through Nathan here.
Viewing this, we’ll see Molly is with Suresh at Isacc’s Loft also with Maya and Elle. Also viewing this at her home is Claire, and she’ll be relieved to see Peter on screen with Nathan and will find out he is indeed still alive.
*Look for Nathan on becoming sick. How sick, how severe, or how minor, not giving out that info. (after his speech)
*Someone named HYPE will bring down the restaurant with Monica in it. He will set a fire to this building. Ultimately, Niki will sacrifice herself for Monica.
Yes, it’s Niki dying in the fire.
*Elle will be the one to bring down Sylar this season and emerge as the ‘Hero.’
bignas1234
Nov 3 2007, 04:45 AM
this looks like alot to happen in one episode maybe it might split over to the 12th episode, seems like a very interesting episode aswell
DoctorHeroes
Nov 3 2007, 07:17 AM
Great. Niki dies, woohoo!
vikesh10
Nov 3 2007, 05:51 PM
Is this the alternate ending they wrote or is that what we were supposed to see???
SophieVM
Nov 4 2007, 12:53 AM
I'm sorry, so what i'm getting from this is that Niki does die? Does anyone know if that's for certain?
Idontwannabeasuperhero
Nov 6 2007, 03:14 PM
That's a lot of spoilers... Dare I ask how we know?
Mpol
Nov 6 2007, 03:27 PM
The Insider.
Melissa78
Nov 7 2007, 07:47 PM
QUOTE(SophieVM @ Nov 4 2007, 04:53 AM)

I'm sorry, so what i'm getting from this is that Niki does die? Does anyone know if that's for certain?
I still think they are making it too obvious to be her but if it is true she is the one who drew me to the show....I have known who Ali was the last 10 years from the things she was in...So since she drew me to the show if she goes I am sorry to say but so do I...I do apologize if that sounds lame and ridiculous to everyone though.
SophieVM
Nov 7 2007, 10:41 PM
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Nov 7 2007, 07:47 PM)

I still think they are making it too obvious to be her but if it is true she is the one who drew me to the show....I have known who Ali was the last 10 years from the things she was in...So since she drew me to the show if she goes I am sorry to say but so do I...I do apologize if that sounds lame and ridiculous to everyone though.
That doesn't dound lame and ridiculous, I feel the same way
Vemynal
Nov 8 2007, 02:13 AM
wait...I'm sorry but is this still accurate with the new ending and all?
and what of sylar? we know he's beat by Elle, but what does that mean?
Melissa78
Nov 9 2007, 07:40 PM
QUOTE(SophieVM @ Nov 8 2007, 02:41 AM)

That doesn't dound lame and ridiculous, I feel the same way

Well I already decided if they kill her I am done I will not think twice.I made up my mind.
bignas1234
Nov 10 2007, 05:59 AM
QUOTE(Vemynal @ Nov 8 2007, 02:13 AM)

wait...I'm sorry but is this still accurate with the new ending and all?
and what of sylar? we know he's beat by Elle, but what does that mean?
im sure she fries him to a pulp in a fight, but i think he doesn't die so they can bring him back into the show in the future
Sam
Nov 10 2007, 08:52 AM
Nikki isnt going to die She's so main we need her
SophieVM
Nov 11 2007, 08:47 AM
QUOTE(Sam @ Nov 10 2007, 08:52 AM)

Nikki isnt going to die She's so main we need her
I hope you guys are right, I just couldn't bare it if she did
superhiro1942
Nov 12 2007, 10:59 PM
is this definite??
qinrawks
Nov 14 2007, 06:35 AM
QUOTE(SophieVM @ Nov 12 2007, 12:47 AM)

I hope you guys are right, I just couldn't bare it if she did

She has the virus, so there's not much hope left for her anyway. Those are some exciting spoilers!! I can't wait for the finale, but at the same time I don't want it to end indefinitely. Noooooooo....
superhiro1942
Nov 19 2007, 02:21 AM
want to be suprised... must know what happens... gaaah i read it, hope these spoilers are for real can't wait anyhow...
The DOKTOR
Nov 19 2007, 08:22 PM
My apologies to all of you Ali Larter fans, but I so hope Nikki dies

...
I never got into her storylines and I think her character have been misused by the authors. I know most of you will want to kill me for this, but besides the fact that she's beautiful to look at, I never though she brought any interest in the show...
OK, now, shoot me.
JessicaSanders
Nov 19 2007, 09:35 PM
I'm with the group who will stop watching if niki dies. but the spoiers seem to say its not even the virus that kills her. It just sounds fishy to me. No confirmation on it anywhere. shes promting the show on 11/26. shes picketting with the other actors. and her offical sites dont have anything. shes not lsited in any new movies or shows. so it doenst make sense.
kincaid
Nov 20 2007, 07:13 AM
these spoilers from insider came out before the strike was announced, all these plans might have changed, theres no way of knowing what the alternate endings are...
Heroes_Crazy
Nov 20 2007, 11:09 AM
TheDude... You took the words out of my mouth!!!
Anyway like some of you have said.. can these spoilers be true.. since the writers are on strike and the show is going to finish in the next 2 episodes... so they must have changed the story abit?!?!
jasfro
Nov 20 2007, 01:41 PM
looks like we're finaly gonna see some action
ilovepeter
Nov 20 2007, 02:55 PM
I really do like Ali Larter, but I'm not so sure about the Niki character. She has super human strength but is too weak to do anything with it herself so her psyche creates other personalities. Jessica was pretty bad a**...granted she was greedy and selfish and was killing people for money or sport but it was interesting to see what would happen whenever Jessica appeared. Pretty much now we're seeing boring, whiny Niki...with the exception of "Gina" who ran off to L.A. and ultimately got DL shot. But I don't see how "Gina" could add anything further to the story since she just seems like a party princess. So, if we could get Niki to let Jessica have control when things occur and she's needed and control her when it's not necessary then I think she could be pretty powerful. Without Jessica she's pretty boring and I wouldn't care if they killed her off though I don't want Micah to lose both of his parents. But is DL really dead? I don't think we can ever know for sure anymore. I would like to see Niki stick around more than I'd like her to leave, but only if they can do something interesting with her. I'm sick of her being whiny and boring.
Melissa78
Nov 20 2007, 07:32 PM
QUOTE(TheDudeAbides987 @ Nov 20 2007, 11:26 AM)

Jesus, are all of you serious???!!! You're going to stop watching the show because they kill off Nikki? If that's the case then you should have all stopped watching the show from the start of season 2 because Nikki has only been in like 3 episodes. She hasn't been a significant part of this season at all, so who the hell cares if she is killed off?
Yeah I am serious is that a problem for anyone if so sorry there is nothing I can do about it it is how I feel .The reason I watched S2 without Niki at first is because I know she is still alive...But I think it is just utter disgusting that the creator wants to put somebody out of a job by killing him/Her off and be happy about it like it makes him look so cool but meanwhile it breaks the hearts of the fans of that character and he does not care about how the fans would feel........
JessicaSanders
Nov 20 2007, 09:44 PM
I have done a lot of searhcing and nothing supports the claims the actress is leaving the show if it were true there'd be SOMETHING.something about a new movie, etc. shes promoting heroes thurs of this week. I was thikning about it too would a collapsing builing kill someone iwth super strenght?
Melissa78
Nov 21 2007, 01:50 PM
QUOTE(JessicaSanders @ Nov 21 2007, 01:44 AM)

I have done a lot of searhcing and nothing supports the claims the actress is leaving the show if it were true there'd be SOMETHING.something about a new movie, etc. shes promoting heroes thurs of this week. I was thikning about it too would a collapsing builing kill someone iwth super strenght?

What building is collapsing...I would say no it won't kill her if she can stop it somehow but there is no talk of any buildings collapsing on the show or on her....And if there no talk of her leaving that I guess it was just a rumor by a Niki Hater who knows....But if its true I still stick to my word on not watching anymore...
NikiPetreli
Nov 22 2007, 02:24 AM
If it's true -I hope NOT!!- I will be another one to stop watching. Ali brought me to the show and without her, it's just plain stupid to keep watching! For what? To see annoying, ugly Claire all the time? If Niki is truly out, I am out too!
I swore to myself, if Niki at some time dies, I'll stop watching without second thoughts!
JessicaSanders
Nov 22 2007, 07:07 AM
Looks like its almost conifrmed preview for ep 11 shows niki running thru a burning building and monica/micah outside reacting to hte building exploding. Thats it i'm done with heroes.
pics:
http://niki.illyria.tv/images/ep11a.jpghttp://niki.illyria.tv/images/ep11b.jpghttp://niki.illyria.tv/images/ep11c.jpghttp://niki.illyria.tv/images/ep11d.jpgI was ready to quit thte begginning of the season. I just wihs it was able to confirm if she dies or not but those pics from preview obviously she seems to die.
Universum
Nov 22 2007, 11:53 AM

Yay, I don't like her at all.
Though she probably won't die.
Melissa78
Nov 22 2007, 02:37 PM
QUOTE(JessicaSanders @ Nov 22 2007, 11:07 AM)

Looks like its almost conifrmed preview for ep 11 shows niki running thru a burning building and monica/micah outside reacting to hte building exploding. Thats it i'm done with heroes.
pics:
http://niki.illyria.tv/images/ep11a.jpghttp://niki.illyria.tv/images/ep11b.jpghttp://niki.illyria.tv/images/ep11c.jpghttp://niki.illyria.tv/images/ep11d.jpgI was ready to quit thte begginning of the season. I just wihs it was able to confirm if she dies or not but those pics from preview obviously she seems to die.
Pictures would not spoil like that...I guess we can look at it like this too You think she is dead and than the next thing you know she is right there alive...I think that is what might happen but Ia m guessing.Hey do you post at the Message board at Ali's site JessicaSanders...I asked people this question awhile ago but go no answers...I do not want to join the board if there is nobody there Ia m familiar with...'
QUOTE(NikiPetreli @ Nov 22 2007, 06:24 AM)

If it's true -I hope NOT!!- I will be another one to stop watching. Ali brought me to the show and without her, it's just plain stupid to keep watching! For what? To see annoying, ugly Claire all the time? If Niki is truly out, I am out too!
I swore to myself, if Niki at some time dies, I'll stop watching without second thoughts!
NikiPetreli I agree with you if she goes what is the point to watch anymore...I think it is terrible to put somebody out of a job like that....As much as I like Kristen Bell there is no point for me to watch anymore if Ali is gone too....I don't think Hayden is ugly but the character is really annoying but still no point to watch for me without Ali.....It is rough to watch the end of Final Destination 2 because they Kill Ali off that but I still watch FD2 it is a bit different with "heroes" though.
JessicaSanders
Nov 22 2007, 06:33 PM
I hope your right melissa thought htat would explain the shocked look on her face too a wtf i survived look instead of aw tf i have to run into that look.
I post at alilarterfan.com i actualyl asked there ifa nyone had heard that she might leave the show. I also post on other heroes forums all with the same nick.
As for final destination 1 nad 2 those rocked

and she was only not in about 10 mins of 2nd so was cool

.
Melissa78
Nov 22 2007, 08:07 PM
QUOTE(JessicaSanders @ Nov 22 2007, 10:33 PM)

I hope your right melissa thought htat would explain the shocked look on her face too a wtf i survived look instead of aw tf i have to run into that look.
I post at alilarterfan.com i actualyl asked there ifa nyone had heard that she might leave the show. I also post on other heroes forums all with the same nick.
As for final destination 1 nad 2 those rocked

and she was only not in about 10 mins of 2nd so was cool

.
I can not say if Ia m right about that JessicaSanders it is just my hope I guess I like to believe in a miracle...If i were writer for "Heroes" that is what I would do make people think she died but than Micah and Monica look up through tears and there is Niki standing right there telling them "It is okay guys Ia m fine"
.....I am probably going to join the Ali site I am assuming it is just for her fans and not haters I am tired of the haters at other sites...I stopped posting at the NBC site and IMDB too much hating that it all sounded personal.....It is not like Niki is a Evil B i t c h she is a good hearted mommy with superstrength who loves her son and loved her husband.A Person like that does not deserve to die sorry.I post at alilarterfan.com i actualyl asked there ifa nyone had heard that she might leave the show. I also post on other heroes forums all with the same nick.
Oh Ali Larter fan.com is that the website somebody said it was Ali Larter.net sounds like Ali Larter.net is the name of another site on her....I will join Ali Larterfan.com
JessicaSanders
Nov 22 2007, 08:11 PM
Theres ali-larter.net which isnt updated as muhc any more. Alilarterfan.com which i frequent and a new one popped up a few weeks ago alilartersource.com (might be wrong url) its alilarterfan.com's sister site. I contribute caps to the alilarterfan site so i tend to stay there a lot. And that hteory be cool. I cant see them screaming up micah any more iether dad dies one month mother(s) the next/ cause killing niki at this point is killing 3 characters. its always a tough decision to kill one fo ra show. tehcincally they are fully killing 2 if htey kill her since jessica was completely fleshed out as well.
Melissa78
Nov 22 2007, 08:31 PM
QUOTE(JessicaSanders @ Nov 23 2007, 12:11 AM)

Theres ali-larter.net which isnt updated as muhc any more. Alilarterfan.com which i frequent and a new one popped up a few weeks ago alilartersource.com (might be wrong url) its alilarterfan.com's sister site. I contribute caps to the alilarterfan site so i tend to stay there a lot. And that hteory be cool. I cant see them screaming up micah any more iether dad dies one month mother(s) the next/ cause killing niki at this point is killing 3 characters. its always a tough decision to kill one fo ra show. tehcincally they are fully killing 2 if htey kill her since jessica was completely fleshed out as well.
Yeah i was just posting at Ali Larter fan.com I think I might of posted on a couple of older topic from like June 06.....If you find the right link for the sister site give it to me I will join....I joined Ali Larterfan.com awhile ago but never posted I do not think....I am going to try posting there more often...It is not too busy right now though.
SophieVM
Nov 22 2007, 10:24 PM
I just wanted to post and express my support for Niki also. It's so nice to see other fans fighting for her, and I will do the same. She is my fave character on the show and I cannot loose her. I've not lost hope yet!
Raekon
Nov 22 2007, 11:39 PM
I like her too guys and I don't want her to leave.

However, it seems that we are going to lose her when she is going to save Monica.
Auxii
Nov 23 2007, 01:48 AM
QUOTE
I like her too guys and I don't want her to leave.
However, it seems that we are going to lose her when she is going to save Monica.
Just when I was really starting to like her..
soccergirl
Nov 23 2007, 04:25 AM
to loose someone these days doesnt mean anything ... look what happened to HRG
and I heard
this is also going to happen to maya ... unfortunately not for the other one ... you know who I mean
so why not do the same with niki?
I mean I think its getting kind of old to see it over and over again but I dont want niki to die nor anyone else from the first season
whatever happends to the second season cast (except david anders) I dont care about
kill them all just to get some deaths!!!
JessicaSanders
Nov 23 2007, 08:37 AM
Just read a spoiler that kinda makes it seem like niki wont die so i'm happy again

seems its a set up scene tha tmight cliffhang til volume 3
Auxii
Nov 25 2007, 06:29 PM
QUOTE(JessicaSanders @ Nov 24 2007, 05:37 AM)

Just read a spoiler that kinda makes it seem like niki wont die so i'm happy again

seems its a set up scene tha tmight cliffhang til volume 3
Eee! Yay!
Lol, your avatar kinda creeps me out, JessicaSanders.
JessicaSanders
Nov 25 2007, 06:49 PM
thanks

its from a promo pic of ep 13.
NikiPetreli
Nov 27 2007, 04:21 AM
QUOTE(JessicaSanders @ Nov 24 2007, 05:37 AM)
Just read a spoiler that kinda makes it seem like niki wont die so i'm happy again seems its a set up scene tha tmight cliffhang til volume 3
Where did you find that spoiler, JessicaSanders? I sure need some good news!
JessicaSanders
Nov 27 2007, 05:53 AM
QUOTE(NikiPetreli @ Nov 27 2007, 07:21 AM)

Where did you find that spoiler, JessicaSanders? I sure need some good news!
I've been reamed out by many forums for beleiving she lives but the promo really looks like niki is outside AFTER the explosion as well
holyspidoo
Nov 27 2007, 05:54 AM
QUOTE(ilovepeter @ Nov 20 2007, 05:55 PM)

...the Niki character. She has super human strength but is too weak to do anything with it herself so her psyche creates other personalities.
heh, is that not true of almost all heroes? They have these abilities but they are always too weak, too scared, too wimpy, too drugged or too amnesiac to use them.
Cylar
Nov 27 2007, 06:30 AM
Haha. Indeed our heroes are too weak. Only Hiro, so far, seems to be slowly living up to the title of Hero. The rest... meh.
Anyway, if Nikki doesn't die, I'd like to see some Nikki and Monica teaming in the future... The 2 of them could kick serious a** together. Nikki, if she unleashes hell as well as Jessica does. And Monica just needs to play back all the fighting moves she's been watching.
JessicaSanders
Nov 27 2007, 07:28 AM
Something interesting in the commentary that was NOT in any of the spoilers going around. Niki and Adam meet up because she is having night terrors. That kinda swaps about waht we see happening. obviously it would have to happen AFTER she runs out to find micah/monica.
NikiPetreli
Nov 27 2007, 08:40 AM
That is so great!! Good news AT LAST!
Sionwitch
Nov 27 2007, 10:49 AM
In
http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/deta...78-7a42a524b365 it says that there will be 3 deaths, one final, one is reversed and one is uncertain, a cliffhanger, so I'm guessing that Niki goes in the building and it explodes but she is the one who's death is reversed or uncertain.
Melissa78
Nov 27 2007, 08:08 PM
QUOTE(JessicaSanders @ Nov 27 2007, 09:53 AM)

I've been reamed out by many forums for beleiving she lives but the promo really looks like niki is outside AFTER the explosion as well
Really I could not tell the preview seemed so fast...I hope she is outside and survives than I can continue watching....It would be cool if her and her niece Monica temed up they can kick some a$$ good if they did.
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