Anyone else abit annoyed that we've already got characters with the same powers as one another? I mean, it's not like the writers were running low on ideas for powers, (all they have to do is open a comic book for a new idea) but we've already got peter/sylar and nathan/west.

It doesn't seem like that big of a deal, but I don't think it was necessary. I mean, peter could've had a different power, potentially stronger than everyone elses, that he gradually learns to control, instead of a number of different ones (sylar collecting powers is an important show dynamic, so I wouldn't change that).

And west didn't have to be able to fly. There's tons of powers they could have given him. And again, Nathan flying was important, as it contributed to the finale.

I know it's not a major issue, just a little disappointing, y'know? And I can't help but feel it'll continue.

i like the way they gave sylar and peter the same sort of ability... it's like good and evil halves battling out together. because peter is "good" he can just absorb abilities, but because sylar is "evil" he must kill to obtain an ability.

i like that west can fly. its like nathan can fly, but he never does unless he has to, he's all closed up about it... but west is all open, doesnt care about showing off or talking about their powers either.

I have no problem whatsoever with duplicate powers because I feel it will be used to explain a significant thing in the storyline. So far, the two people who have the same powers are:

Claire-Kensei
Nathan-West

And if you don't see the dynamics they are going to have, I dunno how you became a fan of Heroes in the first place.

Clue: I think it has a lot to do with bloodlines and generations as they said in the season's start.

i think nathen an wesr powers are different in a way... that only my thoughts... and what about keneseI? maybe he is related to clair?

I'm banking on Kensei having immortality - instead of just "regneration", just speculation.

Ya, I see what you mean. Stan Lee faced the same problem with marvel comics... but unlike heroes, Stan was always able to come up with something fresh.

yea but im not really annoy with it at all, they gotta show the heroes are special, but not that special, u kno what i mean?

i mean maybe very soon, u'll have a few time traveller, a few DL, a few Niki, even a few Mohinder

I think its going to be a matter of they have similar powers but with time and control they'll be able to use that same power in different ways thats the other can't

It's not about what the powers are. It's what they do with them. Example, Matt and his father (assuming that they have the same power, and Matt's dad's not lying). Matt isn't using his powers for gain, where his dad used it to be a crook. How many super strong heroes are out there in both the DC and marvel camps. If you focus on powers, there isn't much difference between Hulk, the Thing, or Solomon Grundy for that matter.

Why is what makes a good hero, not what they can do.

Maybe the "original" heros in the future will be faced with teaching others to control their abilities for those that have similar powers..
What if sila was able to attain peter's powers, would peter regenerate while sila has the power to gain others abilities without killing them? XD

I completely agree.

Personally, I'm not too bothered by the "duplicate" powers. Especially in the case of Peter vs Sylar symbolizing the Good vs Evil.

Aside from that, I'm pretty confident the writers know what they're doing - so either theres a reason for duplicate powers, or its coincidence, and a moot point

They only utilize powers that can be explained genetically or, even though far fetched aren't above the realm of possibility. For instance regeneration, Mind reading, etc. They can explain it without explaining them to extremes.

i agree

I'm so with you.



I think that they're related somehow but the question is if it's directly down the line

As Dr. Suresh mentions in his book, there may be tens, hundreds of these special people. It is destine that a few will have the same powers.

I think it's kind of crappy writing in having duplicate powers already. Hell, X-Men ran 20 or so years before duplicate powers were introduced (and when they were, the ones with similar powers usually had some sort of relation)

i think there's a connection with the duplication of powers...

No, I think it makes it realistic (within the Heroes universe, of course). I like that they're duplicating powers. When I first heard about West flying, I was skeptical. But now that they've duplicated flying, regeneration and mind reading THREE times, I think it's being done well. It's interesting, and I definitely wouldn't call it lazy writing...it's got a real point.

nah i dont think so...some are related to one anoither..thats y they have the same powers

well i wouldn't be surprised if they included the whole hereditary thing to the show, I mean...it would make sense in regards to where the powers really came from. Maybe they'll tie other legends and myth from civilizations to heroes powers, that'll be a twist

you dont have to be unique...the way you use your power is important

Actually, I think you're onto something. Look at what the writers and Tim Kring did last season, when they started up the Yamagato Website, supposedly as Kaito. There's a section that discusses where mysterious people throughout history have become lore and legend from around the world.

Yamagato Site - Repository

ugh... that would mean claire and west are related?? (nathan = claire's dad, west = nathan's flying?)

yeah man, would be 10 times worse then the claire and peter potential relationship.

haha yeah that was way wrong... but yeah, how come peter's and nathan's abilities so different?

doesnt necessarily be the same similar doesnt actually means is the same

Yes I agree. But It was kinf of implemented in the plot: Evolution is comprehended on a large scale of individuals and thus, many "nxt generation" beings are altered in the same way. Its like, atoms may have many isotopes but it doesnt mean theyre never similar ...

probably duplicate powers have no relations to family or experimention ,etc. coincidence perhaps ?

I was annoyed that in season 1 we didn't see duplicate powers, it makes sense that people would have the same powers, it seems a bit more realistic so I am glad this season they are exploring that.

Well all of the Heroes we saw in season 1 were beginning to learn that they had powers, now they are beginning to extend their powers. By doing this you need to learn from the past so you can avoid the problems that will occur in the future.
Showing the older generation this season to what problems did the older generation faced when they discovered they had powers.
Were there any tempting situations?
As we see some got tempted to do whatever they want and not help people, we get to see this so hopefully the current Heroes will avoid these problems

PS. Supergirl I like your avatar

I think that Peter would regenerate, eventually. We've seen that Claire can regrow some limb-age, and reanimate after a deadly injury (specifically the tree branch to the base of the skull that got her opened up on the coroner's vivisection table).
Peter's ability is absorption, apparently osmotic in form. That is, he acquires abilities by being in proximity to the bearer of that particular persuasion.
Sylar, I believe, does NOT eat or need to consume in any way, the brains of his victims. His talent is more like a bent for engineering. He is fascinated with understanding how things work, and has bent his pursuit on understanding how these powers work, not just how many powers he can acquire, though that is a nice side benefit. Maybe he can get an entry in Ripley's or Guinness Book, eh? lol

No, I believe Sylar needs simply to "see" how something works. And I believe he's figured out that the special abilities of "our next evolutionary rung" of humanity is propagated by a unique aspect of the brain itself. Whether it's a small node somewhere in the brain, or perhaps some pattern in synaptic routing that is visible to him, perhaps because he's seen the brain and now knows just exactly how it works? Who knows, maybe a combination of the 2, your guess is as good as mine.

But it's plain from the evidence, he needs only to make some active examination of a thing in order to determine how it works, most plainly was the first encounter with Prof. Suresh the Senior, when he diagnosed the elder's watch simply by gazing at it (devoting his full attention, probably in an unconscious activation of his latent power) for a moment or two.

So, that's the distinction between Sylar and our redoubtable baby of the Patrelli clan; One requires active examination, which usually requires cracking the brainpan, and the other is totally passive, requiring only nearness to a source of unusual abilities. Acquisition vs. Absorption.

If Sylar was able to peel Peter's melon and get see what he needs to see, then yes, he may be able to acquire Peter's absorption ability. However, I don't think that he would automagically accrue all the powers that Peter has absorbed. Only the power that Peter has to absorb other powers.

Peter may not even die from it, though I imagine it would be a measure more excruciating for him than for most, since his body would be attempting to initiate repairs even while Sylar was ripping him open. Another word on that point, Sylar would then have to make a choice; Should he continue to acquire new powers in his old fashion, or repent of his old methods? And then, if so, would he get the same knowledge of how a power worked, or would it be like looking through a magnifying class smeared with petroleum jelly? Maybe some Claritin could clear it up. Then again, he may find that it doesn't suit his tastes, and keep on with his "evolutionary imperative."

I think if he stayed in range long enough, he may absorb from Peter all that has been gained from being near others, and that's a lengthy list. But I think it would be more likely to manifest sooner if he left Peter's presence, and even faster if he were to soon come in contact with someone else, who's power Peter had not yet encountered.

As long as Sylar didn't do too much damage to Peter's brain, or physically remove it from it's usual resting place, I'm confident Peter would regenerate, though I don't envy him the headache he will have when he awakes. hehe

long story short... Peter will regenerate if his brain is undamaged and he will survive anything

Correct, I expect.
So now...does that extend to being a form of immortality? Asking both, Can he die? and Will he die?
What about the gaijin Takezo? Is his in fact immortality? That might explain why we saw him on Alias.

How is it with Claire? And will it function the same way with Peter, since it's not one of his native abilities?
Can Micah's cousin pick up these talents, if she observes them long enough? Or is hers purely a physical animation thing? Either way, I want her on my side, after knowing she's watched some Bruce Lee. lol

i think its good they have duplicate powers in the story, just shows there are more people with similar powers to them,
not like every power is unique and only one can have a certain power, this would be rediculous
as they are expanding worldwide i think they will find more people who's powers we have seen before

Your raised an interesting question Keltor.
Can Micah extend his ability in such ways that he knows how the brain works of others and able to adapt it to his own ?
The brain does afterall work with electric pulses so he could possibly theoretically change those pulses.
But I do think it requires an intensive progress to do this.

Claire being immortal like Takezo ?
Hmmm discussable but I really doubt it though. It is possible though Same goes with Peter.
I dont know how it is with Takezo Kensei. Guess we're gonna find out next episode.

i think the whole thing going on is that at this moment in time most of the heroes have just discovered their powers, they are noobs and once they get experienced with it they will be able to to more things which they couldn't as a noob

agreed.
But to what extend is unknown for me though
The most interesting I find is about Peter. Since for example Matt can extend his abilities and Peter has mind reading. Can Peter actually extend that ability ? That would make Peter even more of a God as he doesnt require everyones ability then. He could have an ability which he could train and potentially making it an ability whatever he wants it to be.

this is possible but i think it will take a longer time than the actual possessor of the ability, as peter has more then one ability to concentrate on

That is true, unless Peter specifically trains on 1 power for a period of time

My issue was never with the duplicate powers in themselves, but more in the fact that they had so many more options to explore, it seemed redundant (and lazy, if i'm honest). I like that they have begun to expand their horizons with brand new abilities (the mexican twins), but as far as "traditional" powers go, they had a backlog of thousands to choose from; having duplicates at this stage seems ridiculous.

I don't have a problem with Matt and Maurey having the same power, as Maurey's is so much more advanced, and (putting aside the fact that they're enemies), the scenario could result in an effective training arc. Also, as they are father and son, a hereditary power seems acceptable, but this seems like even more of a reason to have different powers between unrelated characters.

i used to think duplicate powers was only to make it seem like all a coincidence.
now that i think about it, maury and matt has similar powers.

perhaps West has something to do with Nathan after all?

There is a reason !
People are evolving and not everyone with powers can be unique. There will be persons with the same abilities along the line of evolution and thats what hes showing

If West is Nathan's offspring, then what the hell is gonna happen between Claire and West?
I had no idea incest was gonna be a central theme in Heroes...

i really doubt this is true
i reckon they just made duplicate powers to show us (the viewers) that other people can have the same powers,
that abilities arent just limited to one person having one specific ability
many people could posses the same ability out of randomnity

Yeah I totally agree on you big.
It just shows us that there are others out there who will be the same but others also different. Not everyone being unique in abilities.