What was that? That was rediculous. The twist of the season thus far for sure. What do you all think about what Matt's Dad did to Nathan and Matt???

Just keeps getting creepier and creepier.... have to wait till next week

As i said in another post its fast paced and questions get answered the following week in most cases only the main story plot for the season is hidden wait 7 days and we'll know.

I'm pretty sure thats his ability. Both him and matt have same ability but his dad has more improved ability. He can read minds, Mess with peoples heads like that door thing and trap people in their own heads like molly. So matt will probably be able to do the same thing in a couple of years.

For some reason, I'm still not convinced that Parkman Sr. is the true bad guy here. I could be wrong, but his defense of why he was doing what he was doing seemed pretty logical, if he was next on the killers hitlist. Unless that photo of him with the godsend symbol was fabricated by himself.

That, and the guy that killed Kaito was obviously of a much er, healthier build than Parkman's Dad.

Normally I would be able to see how his dad could be good, but since his dad or "the nightmare man" had been hauting Molly's dreams for so long now, I am convinced he is a "bad guy." Unless he thought Matt was coming to kill him, as if Matt was the killer who was responsible for the elimination for the older hereos, but I think that is too farfetched that his dad was using his power as self-defense.

You may be right - I can definitely see how Parkman Sr. would be involved in something shady, but I'm just having trouble believing he's the ultimate "worse than sylar" baddy. Though this can change once we learn more about him and his motivations.

I completely agree.

I Concur

maybe he is not the killer... like everyone said, he's protecting himself from potential killer..

he is far worse than the boogeyman, maybe because of his ability... not for killing...

molly feared him because he can see her and he can set fear in her heart..

yeah i have that same idea

This probably makes the most sense, though I have a feeling he knows more about the killer than anybody else, possibly having a connection to said killer.

If Matt's dad is a bad guy, he can't be the only one.

What happened to Mama Petrilli seems to fit in with what he can do with his powers, but what about Kaito? Ando saw the guy as well so it wasn't as if the killer was a figment of someone's imagination.

It seems that Parkman Sr. is working with someone else, and that he is a baddie, but not the only one.

mat father is the boggieman.. cant w8 for the up-coming episodes

matt's dad was the nightmare man ! omg

I doubt Matt's father is the ultimate villain... If it was him, he could easily have killed Kaito Nakamura and Angela Petrelli with just his mind since he's so powerful. He could just be sitting on the sidelines, watching everything that's going on and waiting for the time to step in.

But now that we've seen his power, couldn't he have been the one that attacked Angela? She could've easily gotten her wounds from self-infliction during one of those "worst fears" things from Maury Parkman

Good theory!

It still doesn't explain that the guy who killed Kaito is probably not Maury Parkman - but perhaps Parkman is working for the killer?

eff this Nightmare Man, that's some scary ish.

so is Matt's dad gonna be the ultimate enemy this season?

Actually... if Matt wouldn't have gotten Nathan to stop by speaking to him telepathically, they probably would've killed each other. Is it too far fetched to think Maury Parkman could've manipulated someone into running into Kaito? Or something similar like that... what if what we saw (Ando & Kaito included) was one of Maury's mental games and Kaito just fell off the roof? That would explain how there were NO fingerprints or another body alongside Kaito's... who knows

Haha that stuff was so trippy but awesome at the same time. I love things that just make you think WTF during an episode. I'm all for Matt's Dad!!!

the guy that killed hiro's father could definately survive a jump off a building, could matts dad doo that? i dont think so!

I can't wait to see the whole episode, and the old league of heroes, the rest of the nine dead man walking, like Angela and Hiro's Father and Daniel Linderman

would love to see more than one villian in the season.

Maury, Sylar, Mysterious killer etc

if he's so powerful, how come the older generation don't stop him i mean they must've been powerful..and why are they being killed?

maybe they didn't know just how powerful he actually became... remember, he said when he 1st had his power, it was JUST like Matt's... maybe they didn't know his had grown too

perhaps his powers have grown?
or either that, the 12 didnt expect to kill each other. their supposed to be 'friends'

I'd go with they didn't expect that a "friend" would kill them for now.
Untill more has revealed we shouldn't think too much into it

Matt's Dad is making a good villain. And I wonder if any of you realised how he killed Kaito, he made Kaito see that someone was attacking him, and Kaito went over, alone. Same with Angela, made her see someone attacking her, thats why no one was there, and she was seeing something else.

Was just gonna make a thread about this.
So you can read my theorie and questions there Supergirl

But Matt sr. really is a great actor (d*** he looked kinda like Sylar when he smiled and enjoyed)

Matt's dad is evil! I seriously think he's the villian. He has the power to manipulate your mind! How powerful is that! What if Peter gets next to him.. he'll absorb it and Peter is gonna be really strong! I can definitely see why "The Company" is looking for him

he tricked the suckers and did a runner (did he take his shotgun), old skool

i think he is the killer of kaito and angela he used his nightmare ability on them, plus will also explain why he has bob's photo with the godsend mark on

Yes I totally agree! Sylar was my favorite character in season 1, because he's so evil but comes across likeable except for the whole killing innocent people thing.


Anyway, I think that Matt's dad is working with or for someone more evil, who is probably the "mystery killer" of all of the older heroes, or the one asking Matt's dad to help in their deaths.

Also want to say that I am loving where the Matt storyline is going. In season 1, I thought he was great, but it was because I am a huge Alias fan, and also because his power was ~mind reading~ lol. But now there is a really interesing story that goes along with him.

Can't wait to see what happens in the following weeks!

Fantastic sequence. Matt and Nathan's nightmares, then forcing them to fight, best part of the season so far.

I'm sure Matt's dad is the nightmare-man, and that he is evi. I don't think he's the big evil or what killed Hiro's dad. I'm still convinced that was Kensei, and that he is killing the 12.

perhaps it was matt's dad?
i keep having the feeling that the killer has not been revealed.

but ur theory is highly possible.

except the fact that Ando saw the killer running towards Kaito ?

At the scene of the murder of Kaito Nakamura there must be at least 2 persons (Kaito & Ando) there.
There is however the possibility that the hooded killer is real but manipulated by Matt's dad into doing something that made Kaito fall from the roof. This would suggest that there were 3 people on the roof.
It is very twisting as you cant tell how many people there were there as Tim can go any direction with this (logically speaken).
I think the hooded killer is real and got manipulated and killed Kaito.

i think the same now, the hooded killer is one of the heroes ...peter, nathan ??? dunno just guessing