I haven't seen a thread that mentions this yet!

When matt and nathan went to meet Mr. Parkman, he showed them a picture of himself with the godsend sign on it!
So this tells us that he is not the killer of Kaito and Angela. As someone is on the kill for him
Unless he did it himself just to divert people!

BUT in his apartment there was a picture of Bob with the godsend sign, why was this there? Is Matts dad the killer?

he could have ripped it off the main photo and put the godsend sign on it and wanted to later send it to Bob. But matt and nathan found him thus stopping his plan
AND we can connect him to killing Kaito and attacking Angela as he brings out their worst nightmares. So for Kaito, Mr. Parkman made him see something that scared him and fell off the building. Making angela see something and she attacks herself, this links to why the cops found only her DNA on herself

What is the crack here? Is he the killer or not???

I think that the picture of himself with the symbol was probably a ruse.

Also, wouldn't Nathan and Matt now possessing the picture of Bob screw up his (Meaning Matt's dad) plan, if in fact he is the killer? The picture is sent to the person about 24 hours or so before they are killed, probably as a warning that they need to say goodbye quickly. Without that picture, death would come as a surprise to the person. It seems to me that these killings are used for terror purposes. By giving the person time to stew on their impending and inevitable death, the killer is invoking terror. I think it's more of a power control thing other than an incredible desire to see them dead. If the death was a surprise, there would be no terror, and therefore no... fun, I guess, for the killer.

Or maybe I've just watched too many crime dramas, like Nathan.

my question is:

why does Maury have Bob's photo ? shldnt Bob have his own?
cld it hint that Maury is either the killer or an accomplice?
was he in-charge of sending out the photos? haha.


i need to watch the next episode. NOW.

I think he could be the killer. Make sense with the how Kaito and Angela were attacked.
The only thing that discredits that theory is, if he's in Philadelphia how did the ripped photo's get to them?

but what was that grin that he showed after trapping parkman and nathan when he was outside the flat?
that is one wicked grin......?????

Maury could very well be the killer but let us not jump to conclusions too quickly. Heroes has the knack of misleading us with very obvious clues so we disregard the more intricate details.

For example, did you know Maya and Alejandro are travelling in Claire's car which Derek presumably stole? This fact is quite prominent due to the bumper sticker of 'Go Conquistadores!' and both being Nissan Rogues. I don't think Mexico has quite a lot of Nissan Rogues over there right?

Anyway, I digress. The killer may very well be hidden from us till the very end but I believe that Maury knows something about this and maybe he's in cahoots? There is little development in this area so it warrants some deliberation.

matt's dad is a freakin' pedophile...he captures molly so that he can enjoy his sick games with her..eww..son of a cake...

I agree totally.

Ando saw the killer push Sulu down the building. DadParkman probably can not create the same illusion for both Kaito and Ando. So he couldn't be the killer. However he did have the photo of Bob with the mark on it. So either he is working with the killer, or he is working with Bob and Bob showed him the photo and for some reason he kept it with him.

could be true that the nightmare man is working with bob...

I still don't think that Maury is the killer because of the following points:

- Kaitos Death seemed to be real as the person that was there was real too.
If it was a nightmare of himself being pushed of a building so he can fall down alone, Ando wouldn't share it since Andos worst nightmare couldn't possibly be exact the same.

- Angela obviously didn't attacked herself. When you see the scenes you'll see that she was trying to free herself or to attack back with her hands placed away from herself and later just in front of her face as protection of another attack instead of scratching her face herself.

- Nothing points towards that he painted his picture or Bobs with the symbol. He might as well have found Bobs by coinsidence and kept it. Otherwise he would obviously have more then only those two pictures since there are more members still alive.

- He already stated that he didn't wanted to be found and that is why he tried to scare off or trap Molly. It was also obvious that he never counted with a visit from anyone because he didn't quite understood that Molly was locating him for others. At least it looked like this.

- The only thing that was a lie to me was the thing he said to matt about his power being the same which is obviously not the case.

- If he would be the killer, he would make sure that both Nathan and Matt die and wouldn't leave it to the "Luck" that maybe they kill each other.

I think that the real killer is Elles "Daddy" and that could be Kane.

Maury Parkman could be the killer but how about throwing a few things into the mix?

If there is another empath out there, can he alter realities like Candice?
If so is it not feasible that the guy sitting in the chair with the shotgun was the empath rather than Maury? That would explain why Bob's picture was left in the room. What was he doing in the room? Waiting for Maury?
Did he walk out on Parkman when he was 12 because he'd actually been killed and his identity assumed by the empath? Or did he go into hiding from the empath?

Matt's dad could have killed Kaito and attacked Angela which seems logically.
But he himself is terriefied, so either he lied or spoke the truth.

Lets say he spoke the truth. What does this tell us ?

It means that there is someone a bigger threat than Maury Parkmann killing the older generation.
Either Maury works for him or wants to hide from him.
I think he works for him to save his own life which he really would do if he was given this choice.

But now... if there is a bigger threat then Maury.. Who is it ?
We can only assume for now that Kensei/Kane is the bigger threat as he is most probably going to star in at least half the season, but we are only going to see 6-7 episodes of feudal Japan. Which means he is alive in the present. Which states my conclusion that Kensei is the bigger threat to everyone.

i reckon all this is leading up to some big time person who is kensei, become well powerful after living for over 400 years
he is probably causing half of these events

Yea I agree, he is most likely causing all of these events like puppetmaster. Im even thinking that everything in season 1 was also set up and controlled by Kensei. Which eventually will seem very logical about all events.

maybe it's all Hiros fault. Maybe something happens in the attack, Haeko dies and Kensai is devastated and turns to evil. He lives for 400 years and everything that is happening is controlled by Kensai, in order to destroy everything around Hiro, now that he has been born

There are a few pictures about Yaeko confronting Hiro (and eventually kissing I think) where Kensei saw this and later on the episode (yes we will see this next episode) hits Hiro on the back of his head.