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FacJoe
This is why majority of the fans do not like Jessica/Niki. I can't believe they are dragging their melodrama for so long.

I had the impression that in season 1, Niki started having more control over the body that she and Jessica were sharing. Season 1 even went as far as having a "mini-arc" where Niki was "locked up" inside the body and Jessica was controlling the body for a couple of weeks. By the end of Season 1, I thought Niki finally "won" over Jessica.

However, after viewing episode 5 of season 2, it appears that the writers have decided to do away with ALL the filler-ish crap they called "development" for Jessica/Niki's storyline and have Jessica kicking a** again in the Company's facilities all for...what reasons?
Warren
rofl @ "jesus H Christ" hahaha

You sound like my grandma.

But yea, I agree, im tired of her. Message to Nikki in the words of the immortal Jaba the Hutt "You weak minded fool!"
Vemynal
ok, this could be *useless* hoping but...

Whens the last time we saw Niki before this episode? (who as of season 1 can use her powers as well)

answer: When she was making a deal with "Goldman" Bob to do a job for him so that they could cure her.

We haven't been told what this job is *at all*

What do we know about last nights episode...Bob gives Suresh a stun gun right before nikki/Jessica walks in and tries to kill Bob, confirming what bob had just finished saying about how some people arn't in control of their powers and can be dangerous...Then when Nikki wakes up she tells him "this is where i want to be".

What if this entire time the person we saw really was Niki and the job she was doing for Bob was to try and kill him to convince Suresh that the Company were really the good guys?

The act after all certainly brought over Suresh to Bob's side temporarily
tnkrer
ok, another useless hoping is

Niki is also wanting revenge on the Company. (DL was helped by Mohinder, so she probably would not want to deceive him. She is probably deceiving the company. However I have no idea how sad.gif
shanniee
QUOTE(tnkrer @ Oct 25 2007, 09:43 AM) *
ok, another useless hoping is

Niki is also wanting revenge on the Company. (DL was helped by Mohinder, so she probably would not want to deceive him. She is probably deceiving the company. However I have no idea how sad.gif


You really think that ? tongue.gif
Its possible, but I dont see her doing that. She isnt that smart enough to take down the Company on her own. As for Noah... well yall know that hes a smart bada** biggrin.gif
a_hero_exists_in_all_of_us
I guess initially she would be rubbing elbows with the company, but later on would side with the "anti-company" peeps.

I have to admit, Niki/Jessica is one character in the show I'm finding it hard to dig from the start.
bignas1234
yeh at the end of S1 i thought she had gotton over her split personality thing, but seems like she hasn't and still is affecting her
she did kick a** though, they needed to tazer her to put her down
ossie000
Niki just wants to get rid of Jessica and it is logical that Jessica doesn't want to go away. Kinda shame she wants Jessica away, at the end of season 1 Jessica and Niki were in perfect harmony of each other and Jessica kinda accepted that she 'lived in one body' with Niki and Niki just wants to be a good mother..
PeterIsTheONE
QUOTE(Vemynal @ Oct 25 2007, 03:08 AM) *
ok, this could be *useless* hoping but...

Whens the last time we saw Niki before this episode? (who as of season 1 can use her powers as well)

answer: When she was making a deal with "Goldman" Bob to do a job for him so that they could cure her.

We haven't been told what this job is *at all*

What do we know about last nights episode...Bob gives Suresh a stun gun right before nikki/Jessica walks in and tries to kill Bob, confirming what bob had just finished saying about how some people arn't in control of their powers and can be dangerous...Then when Nikki wakes up she tells him "this is where i want to be".

What if this entire time the person we saw really was Niki and the job she was doing for Bob was to try and kill him to convince Suresh that the Company were really the good guys?

The act after all certainly brought over Suresh to Bob's side temporarily


I'd like to add on to that theory. A new promo released says the killer is "One of them" and Niki is one of the heroes shown during it. I believe Bob is controlling Niki and using Jessica to kill of the other 12. I think Bob is behind the killings.

More evidence that Bob is the killer. If you read the discussions on The Company Photo being a fake >
http://www.got-heroes.com/The-Company-Phot...nd33-t4537.html
<You can see that the man standing next to Kaito in the ripped photo has a brown jacket. In the full picture Nathan found, the man standing next to Kaito is Bob in a black jacket.

So far Bob seems a little too innocent. Even though he's in the company, we haven't noticed any powers but he is part of the 12. I believe it has something to do with being able to control people, as he is controlling Niki/Jessica to kill the 12.
Machy07
QUOTE
So far Bob seems a little too innocent. Even though he's in the company, we haven't noticed any powers but he is part of the 12

he does have a power, he turns things into gold! i think someone can control people but i don't think it's bob. i'm starting to like bob laugh.gif
cbaby
i was bummed not to see niki in the first 2 episodes of season 2 but then when she appeared again and with jessica, i was bummed again.. i too thought that jessica was long gone..

QUOTE(PeterIsTheONE @ Oct 26 2007, 04:48 AM) *
I believe Bob is controlling Niki and using Jessica to kill of the other 12.


but kaito said soemthing like, 'of all of them, i would have never thought it would be you..' to his killer, did kaito ever meet niki..?
bignas1234
QUOTE(PeterIsTheONE @ Oct 25 2007, 09:48 AM) *
I'd like to add on to that theory. A new promo released says the killer is "One of them" and Niki is one of the heroes shown during it. I believe Bob is controlling Niki and using Jessica to kill of the other 12. I think Bob is behind the killings.

More evidence that Bob is the killer. If you read the discussions on The Company Photo being a fake >
http://www.got-heroes.com/The-Company-Phot...nd33-t4537.html
<You can see that the man standing next to Kaito in the ripped photo has a brown jacket. In the full picture Nathan found, the man standing next to Kaito is Bob in a black jacket.

So far Bob seems a little too innocent. Even though he's in the company, we haven't noticed any powers but he is part of the 12. I believe it has something to do with being able to control people, as he is controlling Niki/Jessica to kill the 12.


it didn't say anything about the killer being 'one of them', it cud be anything
one of the them could be killed next
Montana
I thought the whole inner-turmoil thing between Niki/Jessica was supposed to be over, that was why I was surprised to see it again in this episode-I mean did Ali not say in an interview a while back that one of them would be dominant and the other would just go away. Really, it bugs me that they brought the Niki/Jessica thing back up again. She has always been one of my least favourite characters and this episode only reminded me why.

For someone who wants to be cured so darn much she is not doing such a good job at it.

Oh god...I hope she isn't the killer...
Dickiedick
Ow man.....
I really began to like her at the end of season 1. I even whoopied (=screamed whoopie huh.gif ) after she used her strength powers while nikki was in control.....

In season 1 I only liked her for the way she treated and protected her son and ofc. her looks wink.gif
But in season 2 she doesn't even have Micah....

WTF... I cannot believe she is acting like such a idiot... ofcourse maybe another reason will be shown to us, that will make us approve of her decision. But for me. If she goes on much longer like this, she will have lost most of my (hard-won) appreciation and probably won't be getting it back.

After all that happend to her and her son (and a lot because of 'the company') i cannot believe she would abandon her son to try to find a cure for a supergene.... DUDE, that kid should suppossed to be traumatized... If u see ur father get killed in front of your eyes and things like that... i would think the mom would spend some extra attention on the kid and not get herself fixed.... ohmy.gif
shanniee
QUOTE(Dickiedick @ Oct 29 2007, 11:10 AM) *
Ow man.....
I really began to like her at the end of season 1. I even whoopied (=screamed whoopie huh.gif ) after she used her strength powers while nikki was in control.....

In season 1 I only liked her for the way she treated and protected her son and ofc. her looks wink.gif
But in season 2 she doesn't even have Micah....

WTF... I cannot believe she is acting like such a idiot... ofcourse maybe another reason will be shown to us, that will make us approve of her decision. But for me. If she goes on much longer like this, she will have lost most of my (hard-won) appreciation and probably won't be getting it back.

After all that happend to her and her son (and a lot because of 'the company') i cannot believe she would abandon her son to try to find a cure for a supergene.... DUDE, that kid should suppossed to be traumatized... If u see ur father get killed in front of your eyes and things like that... i would think the mom would spend some extra attention on the kid and not get herself fixed.... ohmy.gif


Dl didnt died of the bullets at Kirby Plaza...
He died of something else as we will see it in ep 8.
As for Nikki/Jessica... She has an amazing power, but aparently because of the personality disorder she dislikes it.
But Nikki/Jessica killing Kaito... THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NONSENSE biggrin.gif
It's either Kensei/Peter (killing for Kensei) thats it. My bet is on Kensei now tongue.gif

SAVE HRG SAVE ZHE WORLD !!!!! ONLY a FEW MORE EPISODES LEFT BEFORE WE KNOW IF HE DIES OR LIVES !!! HELP HRG TO SAVE THE WORLD PEOPLE laugh.gif biggrin.gif
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