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Got Heroes > Heroes: Episode Discussion > Volume Two: Generations > Chapter 08 - "Four Months Ago"
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THE CLOCK TURNS BACK FOUR MONTHS AS THIS SEASON’S SECRETS ARE REVEALED -- LEONARD ROBERTS (“D.L. HAWKINS”) RETURNS -- When the clock turns back four months for all of the Heroes, Nathan pays a terrible cost for his heroic actions. While Peter survives his detonation over New York City, the Company “bags” him as a threat to the world, eventually leading to violent confrontation with Elle (Kristen Bell) and the Haitian (Jimmy Jean-Louis). D.L. (Leonard Roberts) makes the ultimate sacrifice for Niki (Ali Larter) and Micah (Noah Gray-Cabey). Maya (Dania Ramirez) horrifically manifests her dark powers for the first time, driving her and Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) to America for help. A mysterious, yet familiar face is introduced. David Anders, Jack Coleman, Dana Davis, Greg Grunberg, James Kyson Lee, Zachary Quinto, Sendhil Ramamurthy also star. Carlon Jeffery, Nichelle Nichols and Stephen Tobolowsky guest star.


This is the episode description, and it says David Anders is in the show yet doesn't mention Hiro or his plotline in the description. Also, we have already seen Hiros story from the second he arrived in Feudal Japan meaning there would be nothing to cover. This leads us to believe that Kensi is the "Mysterious yet familiar face" is Kensei.
Supergirl
Yeah I think you might be right. I wonder what is up with Nathan though? And what sacrifice did DL make.
bignas1234
i hope they explain more about the virus in this episode, as to were it started?
in the description it says the company 'bags' peter, does this mean the kidnap him? keep him under quarantine?
jeff2hogan
i wonder what killed DL
shanniee
QUOTE(jeff2hogan @ Oct 30 2007, 09:21 AM) *
i wonder what killed DL

I wonder how the confrontation between Elle and the Haitian will be like lol..
Will Peter go back to the past ? :x or this timeline we see now lol biggrin.gif
Uli
having the haitian in the mix could this mean peter will never have his memories back.
themko
QUOTE(Supergirl @ Oct 29 2007, 03:34 PM) *
And what sacrifice did DL make.


Organ donation? lolz tongue.gif

I'm curious how Peter escaped the company and what his relationship with Elle was exactly... biggrin.gif
sounds like a very cool episode
bignas1234
nathan's face gets burned when he takes peter into the air, thus leaving him scarred when he gets back on Earth. then he meets Adam monroe=kensei who heals him.
the episodes inwhich we saw his scarred face, it was actually what he looked like when he got back to Earth after letting peter blow up (radiation- burning/killing cells)
deeshero
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Oct 30 2007, 09:46 PM) *
nathan's face gets burned when he takes peter into the air, thus leaving him scarred when he gets back on Earth. then he meets Adam monroe=kensei who heals him.
the episodes inwhich we saw his scarred face, it was actually what he looked like when he got back to Earth after letting peter blow up (radiation- burning/killing cells)



I was thinking the same thing in terms of Nathan being burnt. I also think when he gets back he was healed but has flash backs of how he looked when he got back to earth.
Cylar
Nah, not the first glimpse, this will be the second glimpse of Adam. Heh, actually Kensei/Adam cannot be considered really evil, because he has his own agenda against Hiro. He is after all, heartbroken. But okay, based on Episode 7, perhaps now he's gone a step further and went to think himself as godly... so perhaps, during the ancient Japan saga, he was just heartbroken. Now, he is just... having a vendetta against everyone in the Company... and basically against the world... or just thinks he is is a god or something to that degree.
shanniee
QUOTE(Cylar @ Nov 6 2007, 02:56 PM) *
Nah, not the first glimpse, this will be the second glimpse of Adam. Heh, actually Kensei/Adam cannot be considered really evil, because he has his own agenda against Hiro. He is after all, heartbroken. But okay, based on Episode 7, perhaps now he's gone a step further and went to think himself as godly... so perhaps, during the ancient Japan saga, he was just heartbroken. Now, he is just... having a vendetta against everyone in the Company... and basically against the world... or just thinks he is is a god or something to that degree.

He thinks he's a God like all villains do sleep.gif;
I loved it that Elle and Peter kissed biggrin.gif
BusigaBubben
Does anyone know who the familiar face that is introduced is? biggrin.gif

Well now it finally makes sence..
Kind of a spoil maybe, but if youre on this topic then you should be prepared!
Anyhow, it makes sence now. The company took Peter and held him "prisoner". That is where he met elle and got the lightningpower. In the commercial for this episode 208 we also see that he meets adam monroe in the company, who also is in holding.
Then the haitian comes to peters rescue and he is (obviously, im not acting all smartass biggrin.gif) who erased peters memorys and locked him up in that container, and he gave peter the Godsend-mark-neclace.

Look forward to seeing the episode, will be great to hear more about Adam.
Yeah thats right, i had a question.
Didnt bob say that adam was the one behind murdering the "members of the 12"?
Didnt he also say that he could controll the weather? Snow in miami, but it could have been a tsunami...
oh never mind.. he was probably the one who forced someone of the 12 that can control weather to make it snow.. but if adam was one of the 12, why wasnt he on the photo of the 12.. ofcourse it would be a big anti-klimax if he would be, but it's kinda wrong that he is a member but is not there on the photo.

And about the Mohinder-shooting-Bennet scenario, dont you think its more to it? I mean this is heroes, its tooo obvious, they want us to belive that mohinder shoots noah.

Suggestions? biggrin.gif
shanniee
QUOTE(BusigaBubben @ Nov 6 2007, 06:29 PM) *
Does anyone know who the familiar face that is introduced is? biggrin.gif

Well now it finally makes sence..
Kind of a spoil maybe, but if youre on this topic then you should be prepared!
Anyhow, it makes sence now. The company took Peter and held him "prisoner". That is where he met elle and got the lightningpower. In the commercial for this episode 208 we also see that he meets adam monroe in the company, who also is in holding.
Then the haitian comes to peters rescue and he is (obviously, im not acting all smartass biggrin.gif) who erased peters memorys and locked him up in that container, and he gave peter the Godsend-mark-neclace.

Look forward to seeing the episode, will be great to hear more about Adam.
Yeah thats right, i had a question.
Didnt bob say that adam was the one behind murdering the "members of the 12"?
Didnt he also say that he could controll the weather? Snow in miami, but it could have been a tsunami...
oh never mind.. he was probably the one who forced someone of the 12 that can control weather to make it snow.. but if adam was one of the 12, why wasnt he on the photo of the 12.. ofcourse it would be a big anti-klimax if he would be, but it's kinda wrong that he is a member but is not there on the photo.

And about the Mohinder-shooting-Bennet scenario, dont you think its more to it? I mean this is heroes, its tooo obvious, they want us to belive that mohinder shoots noah.

Suggestions? biggrin.gif

Adam isnt one of the 12. He met them and convinced them that the world needs help etc etc.
Elle met Peter in the cell yea biggrin.gif and played with him and eventually kissing (hmm I dont think Peter had any choice, maybe Elle used her ability to make Peter kiss her? Sound familiar somewhere but dont know where from ).
Peter met Adam in the cell that was just too wicked...
liam
but didnt bob say adam was one of them he even had linderman as his disipal (sp)
lorien79
>> but didnt bob say adam was one of them he even had linderman as his disipal (sp)
thats the same thing i was thinking about
shanniee
QUOTE(liam @ Nov 6 2007, 08:36 PM) *
but didnt bob say adam was one of them he even had linderman as his disipal (sp)

He never said that. Adam worked with them and had visions. Some of the 12 shared this with Adam some didnt. Never about Adam being the 12.
Irvie
I want to know what price Nathan payed...
bignas1234
QUOTE(Irvie @ Nov 6 2007, 07:00 PM) *
I want to know what price Nathan payed...


his face gets all scarred up like we saw when he looked in the mirror, he gets fried to a crisp during the explosion-radiation
maxxann
QUOTE(shanniee @ Nov 7 2007, 04:34 AM) *
He never said that. Adam worked with them and had visions. Some of the 12 shared this with Adam some didnt. Never about Adam being the 12.


Bob said Adam found them and gathered them to change the world. Meant: Adam founded the company. Then maybe they got tired of him running the show so they had a scramble for power. well, that's what i think smile.gif

QUOTE(BusigaBubben @ Nov 7 2007, 01:29 AM) *
.. but if adam was one of the 12, why wasnt he on the photo of the 12.. ofcourse it would be a big anti-klimax if he would be, but it's kinda wrong that he is a member but is not there on the photo.



Suggestions? biggrin.gif


It was discussed not too long ago, that perhaps there are more than 1 photo of the company. In the big picture Nathan has, there was no Adam there. He pointed out his mom, his dad, linderman, charles, bob... and in the ripped pictures of Kaito, Angela, Bob and maury, there's a man in a white suit behind each of them (just the shoulders seen). particularly in kaito's ripped pic, you can clearly see that the man beside him was wearing a white suit, but in nathan's picture, Kaito was beside Bob and Bob is wearing a dark suit.
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