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Aerdna
She can't be serious.

She's becoming so selfish. Her dad's lies were to keep them safe, but her lies are just drawing un-necessary attention. Has she learned nothing?!

And that whole scheme was just juvenile. She's lucky Debbie was boozed up.
FlyingMan
I think it's showing how her love for West is allowing him to easily manipulate her.
Psycho
I love seeing good girls go bad smile.gif
rashktah
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I love seeing good girls go bad
Yeah, but this somehow equals smart girls getting dumb. I'm curious where this is heading to...
maxxann
QUOTE(rashktah @ Oct 30 2007, 12:03 PM) *
Yeah, but this somehow equals smart girls getting dumb. I'm curious where this is heading to...

I think this is how they cook up the idea that West manipulates Claire and Claire is so dead in love with him to allow that. And that West and Claire will connive with his murder.
Ayala_42
That was a really, really, supremely stupid prank! I mean, if it wasn't for the whole "If our powers are discovered we'll become human lab rats and be tortured in the name of science for the rest of our days" thing, it would've been hilarious. But holy crudmuffins, Claire! Did Sylar take your brain and replace it with a ball of lint, or something?! 'Cause that was a pretty brainless thing to do. angry.gif The fact that what's-her-name was drunk might fool the rest of the school, but someone from the Company? Forget it!
Supergirl
I thought it was hilarious, but Claire's actions were not good by any means. I also thought it was a bit pointless, but she's getting more reckless, West is a terrible influence and I am sure he is working with the company or something.
Ayala_42
QUOTE(Supergirl @ Oct 29 2007, 10:19 PM) *
I thought it was hilarious, but Claire's actions were not good by any means. I also thought it was a bit pointless, but she's getting more reckless, West is a terrible influence and I am sure he is working with the company or something.


I don't know about him working with the company, but you're definitely right about him being a bad influence. I've never liked him, to be honest. He annoyed me right from the start with that "aliens vs. robots" nonsense.
AIAF
At least it's getting more interesting now.
shanniee
QUOTE(AIAF @ Oct 30 2007, 07:54 AM) *
At least it's getting more interesting now.

thats for sure. Claire is kinda becoming bad since West has a very bad influence. So evil Claire soon ?
perfectly-messy
QUOTE(shanniee @ Oct 30 2007, 08:27 PM) *
thats for sure. Claire is kinda becoming bad since West has a very bad influence. So evil Claire soon ?


yea it just make me dislike West more
amplification.
QUOTE(perfectly-messy @ Oct 30 2007, 03:42 PM) *
yea it just make me dislike West more

Yep, definitely *calls sylar*
Cylar
QUOTE(amplification. @ Oct 30 2007, 04:02 PM) *
Yep, definitely *calls sylar*


Hmm, someone called? Indeed, I always wanted to try flying. Once I get my powers back, West is next.
Montana
It was a pretty stupid thing for Claire to do...especially seeing as her dad has been constantly telling her not to draw attention to herself and she seems to be doing the exact opposite. it kinda bugs me that she didn't think of the repercusions until after she had done the prank and even then West was all like "eh, its ok," West seems to be a bad influence on her. I am still not sure about his character...there is something a little off about him.

Claire and her dad seem to be two of the same kind...they can't help themselves and they can't change, they always think they have good reasons for doing the things they do. (I know she is adopted, but clearly they have similarities wink.gif)
shanniee
QUOTE(Montana @ Oct 30 2007, 10:55 AM) *
It was a pretty stupid thing for Claire to do...especially seeing as her dad has been constantly telling her not to draw attention to herself and she seems to be doing the exact opposite. it kinda bugs me that she didn't think of the repercusions until after she had done the prank and even then West was all like "eh, its ok," West seems to be a bad influence on her. I am still not sure about his character...there is something a little off about him.

Claire and her dad seem to be two of the same kind...they can't help themselves and they can't change, they always think they have good reasons for doing the things they do. (I know she is adopted, but clearly they have similarities wink.gif)


that is true biggrin.gif
And West finding out about HRG & Claire...
Makes me think he will have a plan to kill him lol biggrin.gif
But what will happen then tongue.gif
Mr_Stabby
shes cute which means she can do whatever the fk she wants cool.gif
shanniee
QUOTE(Mr_Stabby @ Oct 30 2007, 11:08 AM) *
shes cute which means she can do whatever the fk she wants cool.gif

Makes it very interesting ^^
But Claire going evil is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not interesting lol
She was good and interesting in season 1 with Save the cheerleader, save the world.
But now its rather Dont save the cheerleader, save the world laugh.gif
She's becoming more of a Sylar-ish type of person just EVIL I tell ya EVIL !
JessaMac16
Claire has been really bugging me this season, which is odd because last season she was one of my favourite characters but this season she has become reckless, childish and selfish. I'd rather see more Niki or Monica than Claire.
Plus in this episode what she did was a really stupid thing, what if someone had seen her and West, how could they explain that? Maybe if she ditched West I wouldn't dislike her so much.
masi_magnificent
I think Claire is just in a spot of confusion atm that's all. West has been such a negative influence, and yet she knows she can't trust everything her dad says... whether west will find out about HRG, and vice versa, that just makes the plot a whole lot more interesting.
shanniee
QUOTE(masi_magnificent @ Oct 30 2007, 01:04 PM) *
I think Claire is just in a spot of confusion atm that's all. West has been such a negative influence, and yet she knows she can't trust everything her dad says... whether west will find out about HRG, and vice versa, that just makes the plot a whole lot more interesting.

Next week eh smile.gif
West will finally find out about Claire & HRG biggrin.gif
patriot197
My problem with Claire this season is it seems like she's a great deal less mature and thoughtful than last season. It's like she's aged backward 2 or 3 years.
clarity625
I guess for me it would have been more believable, if they showed Claire being really in love big time. People have been known to take chances and act a bit crazy for love. However I just don't see their relationship this way at all. To me there was more chemistry between her and Peter. laugh.gif
Chibi
When I try to understand her point of view, I get something like that: He was the first person to be nice to her in California, (plus he's cute...) Then, she found out that he had a power too, so that makes him... I don't know... ><' . My point is, she likes him, and he's not trying to be a bad influence to her (but he is...). Yeah, plus she knows that Noah is lying to her! It's obvious!

Anyway, I'm getting so pissed that Noah is lying all over again! >=P
bignas1234
QUOTE(shanniee @ Oct 30 2007, 04:30 AM) *
Next week eh smile.gif
West will finally find out about Claire & HRG biggrin.gif


yep nxt episode the break up starts, yippeee laugh.gif
west will probably be angry at her for keeping the 'horn rimmed glasses is my dad' thing a secret
comatose
or it might be west's last episode? get the haitian to clean his memory and he'll just end up like another brody.
they look like the same kind anyway.
shanniee
QUOTE(comatose @ Oct 31 2007, 08:29 AM) *
or it might be west's last episode? get the haitian to clean his memory and he'll just end up like another brody.
they look like the same kind anyway.

That is possible, but then again... What usefullnes did West happen since episode 2x01?
There is something important coming up, what I dont know for sure (Noah being killed? lol).
iterums
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Oct 31 2007, 03:52 AM) *
yep nxt episode the break up starts, yippeee laugh.gif
west will probably be angry at her for keeping the 'horn rimmed glasses is my dad' thing a secret
Did Claire not already said that to West?
herlepras
QUOTE(iterums @ Oct 31 2007, 02:55 PM) *
Did Claire not already said that to West?


Theoretically and literally,yes!
In some ep,when West reiterated about HRG,Claire yells"It's my dad",......[West looking confused/shocked]..........."he's really overprotective".....

And Personally,My hopes arent up for West getting a Haitian wiped/Sylared pretty soon...hes gonna stick around a lot this season

Im interested in what he can actually do after finding out Claires dad=HRG??
He cant really do anything about it,rite?? laugh.gif
Archis
QUOTE(herlepras)
In some ep,when West reiterated about HRG,Claire yells"It's my dad",......[West looking confused/shocked]..........."he's really overprotective".....


Yes. But west doesnt know that the horn-rimemd glasses man is claire's dad!

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And Personally,My hopes arent up for West getting a Haitian wiped/Sylared pretty soon


Im so up for a Wylar! laugh.gif

bignas1234
QUOTE(iterums @ Oct 31 2007, 01:25 AM) *
Did Claire not already said that to West?


yeh she did but the way she sed it brought out a new sentence, so overall West does not kno he is her father
shanniee
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Oct 31 2007, 05:49 PM) *
yeh she did but the way she sed it brought out a new sentence, so overall West does not kno he is her father

Wonder what his reaction will be like ^^
SandmanX
QUOTE(shanniee @ Oct 30 2007, 08:30 PM) *
Next week eh smile.gif
West will finally find out about Claire & HRG biggrin.gif


Hopefully.
bignas1234
QUOTE(shanniee @ Oct 31 2007, 09:33 AM) *
Wonder what his reaction will be like ^^


'im gona shoot u in the eye m8', 'i don't like ur glasses'
lol
Idontwannabeasuperhero
QUOTE(rashktah @ Oct 30 2007, 04:03 AM) *
Yeah, but this somehow equals smart girls getting dumb.

+1
I like the idea behind this, but I really don't like the way it's been managed - it just feels so unrealistic to me (unrealistic for a show full of flying people, time travelers and people who can walk through walls...). Plus I hate West more every single week, and it's spreading to Claire.
shanniee
QUOTE(-sparky- @ Nov 1 2007, 11:40 AM) *
Neither of them seem particularly worried about being seen anyway...

I mean... when West 1st demonstrates his power he just picks Claire up in broad daylight and off he flys...

When she goes for her 1st date with him (via the library!) he just zooms up in the air behind Bennet as he searches for her...

And on their 1st date they sit on one of Californias most visible icons, the Hollywood sign...

If they are worried about being seen then they are going a funny way about it...

totally, West doesnt care what other people think while Claire hates what other people think but now seems to go the same direction and characteristics of West... which makes it annoying though..
I'd rather see Claire like in s1 than this persona ..
Archis
QUOTE(shanniee)
I'd rather see Claire like in s1 than this persona ..


YEAH.
As Tim Kring says : Flying boys can be distracting!
bignas1234
QUOTE(-sparky- @ Nov 1 2007, 02:40 AM) *
Neither of them seem particularly worried about being seen anyway...

I mean... when West 1st demonstrates his power he just picks Claire up in broad daylight and off he flys...

When she goes for her 1st date with him (via the library!) he just zooms up in the air behind Bennet as he searches for her...

And on their 1st date they sit on one of Californias most visible icons, the Hollywood sign...

If they are worried about being seen then they are going a funny way about it...


this true, there is bound to be someone who will see him flying
it's not like its a desert island where there is no one there to see them, its a city where people live
very unbelievable
shanniee
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Nov 3 2007, 06:19 PM) *
this true, there is bound to be someone who will see him flying
it's not like its a desert island where there is no one there to see them, its a city where people live
very unbelievable

Yea very unbelievable biggrin.gif Its either the people are plain stupid... or West is extremely lucky...
bignas1234
QUOTE(shanniee @ Nov 3 2007, 12:06 PM) *
Yea very unbelievable biggrin.gif Its either the people are plain stupid... or West is extremely lucky...


I really hope West will get caught flying, then the police will send the army after him in military aircrafts, trying to shoot him down, they end up catching him and arresting him ,testing on him like a lab rat. This would make me happy
shanniee
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Nov 3 2007, 09:41 PM) *
I really hope West will get caught flying, then the police will send the army after him in military aircrafts, trying to shoot him down, they end up catching him and arresting him ,testing on him like a lab rat. This would make me happy

Clip his wings biggrin.gif tongue.gif
Archis
lol,

but in west's case if you cut his arms and feet and throw them in the recylcle bin
can west fly then?
can this is west's weakaness for his ability?...
halidaaa
QUOTE(herlepras @ Oct 31 2007, 09:06 PM) *
My hopes arent up for West getting a Haitian wiped/Sylared pretty soon...hes gonna stick around a lot this season


i think they can't possibly wipe west off the season so soon no matteR how annoying he is, because i like him. haha biggrin.gif no, i mean, because.. doesn't it botheR you that he can fly? i mean, it's just unlikely that he can ONLY fly, seeing that we alReady have nathan to do that. what do you think, maybe soon he'll show otheR poweRs, who knows? wink.gif

and if you see the shoRt clip of next episode, debbie's suspension made it to a newspapeR and she mentions seeing a boy who could fly, so congRatulations west-hateRs, he might be in tRouble soon, dRagging claiRe with him, of couRse..

QUOTE(archis @ Nov 4 2007, 10:11 PM)
but in west's case if you cut his arms and feet and throw them in the recylcle bin
can west fly then?


maybe he'll RegeneRate and say, 'suRpRise!!' xD
soRRy guys, i'm just not in my Right mind ^^;
shanniee
QUOTE(haidaaa @ Nov 4 2007, 04:20 PM) *
i think they can't possibly wipe west off the season so soon no matteR how annoying he is, because i like him. haha biggrin.gif no, i mean, because.. doesn't it botheR you that he can fly? i mean, it's just unlikely that he can ONLY fly, seeing that we alReady have nathan to do that. what do you think, maybe soon he'll show otheR poweRs, who knows? wink.gif

and if you see the shoRt clip of next episode, debbie's suspension made it to a newspapeR and she mentions seeing a boy who could fly, so congRatulations west-hateRs, he might be in tRouble soon, dRagging claiRe with him, of couRse..
maybe he'll RegeneRate and say, 'suRpRise!!' xD
soRRy guys, i'm just not in my Right mind ^^;

Hopefully West will get captured ! tongue.gif and KILLED biggrin.gif
Archis
probably soon he'll get hit by an aeroplane! biggrin.gif
maxxann
QUOTE(shanniee @ Nov 5 2007, 01:03 AM) *
Hopefully West will get captured ! tongue.gif and KILLED biggrin.gif


The guy playing West is really good. You can see the evil in his eyes. cool.gif
shanniee
QUOTE(maxxann @ Nov 5 2007, 08:21 AM) *
The guy playing West is really good. You can see the evil in his eyes. cool.gif

I dont lol tongue.gif
I only see evil when I just see him not in his eyes wink.gif
Archis
QUOTE(maxxann)
The guy playing West is really good. You can see the evil in his eyes. cool.gif


i think i will agree with that. that guy can act. though i dunno abt the evil eye part.
my only complaint - his cheesy lines and attitude, plus his influnece on claire and turning her into a kid again.
misshonest20
It is at the very least interesting, cause to be honest, I don't feel that this season has been. Claire is my favorite character, but I haven't been so interested latley. Is it me or has the character changed? Claire from season one was young, afraid, innocent, yet at the same time so powerful. Claire season two, has just been uninteresting and stupid. Obviously seasons change and character evolve, I understand that, but the Claire from this season is too different for me, and things seem so underdeveloped.

At least when she lied to her dad in season one it was for good reasons, or because she didn't trust him. Now it just seems like a silly, and obvious scheme for trouble.

Things with West are just too easy for him to be good, he seems planted there specifically for claire. If he was good then Claire wouldn't really have much going on in her storyline. If West is good, then all they had to do was shoot 5mins to explain that her family is in hiding and that she is going to school and has a BF. There has to be more to West.

Him spying on her was just way way to creepy to be normal. Plus he just seems TOO nice.

I like the actor for West. I like that Claire has someone to turn to, but still it just seems like things are heading for trouble.
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