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sirgrim
A link to Adam? When Peter goes into that place..


ossie000
dude, nice find. Looks like the last hint for the Kensei = Adam theory...
shanniee
QUOTE(ossie000 @ Oct 30 2007, 10:31 AM) *
dude, nice find. Looks like the last hint for the Kensei = Adam theory...


Insider seems to be right with his info...
Nice find smile.gif
Cloudwalker
Nice hint from the makers smile.gif

Here a better one:

shanniee
QUOTE(Cloudwalker @ Oct 30 2007, 04:15 PM) *
Nice hint from the makers smile.gif

Here a better one:



Good you made it so other people can understand better tongue.gif
This would mean Adam aka Kensei has been all around the world the past 400 years ?
That would suggest that he may met quite some people.
Cloudwalker
QUOTE(shanniee @ Oct 30 2007, 07:18 AM) *
Good you made it so other people can understand better tongue.gif
This would mean Adam aka Kensei has been all around the world the past 400 years ?
That would suggest that he may met quite some people.


Could be, but also possible Hiro transported him to the future. What the hell is Hiro doing there anyway, so now there's a reason wink.gif
shanniee
QUOTE(Cloudwalker @ Oct 30 2007, 04:23 PM) *
Could be, but also possible Hiro transported him to the future. What the hell is Hiro doing there anyway, so now there's a reason wink.gif

Hiro bringing Kensei to the future is doubtfull. You know why?
The Company has a file about him for quite some time know. Hiro will come to the present meaning that Adam was already there without Hiro which means he's either immortal or ages very very slow.
Cloudwalker
You have a point. Adam Monroe was one of the founders of the Company. And that was before Hiro went back.

I think this is Adam Monroe/Kensei in the current time:



shanniee
QUOTE(Cloudwalker @ Oct 30 2007, 04:29 PM) *
You have a point. Adam Monroe was one of the founders of the Company. And that was before Hiro went back.

I think this is Adam Monroe/Kensei in the current time:



Lol thats not Adam
Adam is and still looks the same as he was 400 years ago, played by David Anders. So you can pretty much count that theory of yours out laugh.gif
Cloudwalker
QUOTE(shanniee @ Oct 30 2007, 07:46 AM) *
Lol thats not Adam
Adam is and still looks the same as he was 400 years ago, played by David Anders. So you can pretty much count that theory of yours out laugh.gif


How do you know he looks the same after 400 years?
chimps_n_pimps
ok.....i need somone to clear up this big kensei/adam/kane mess up thats make my head turn to jelly.....
who is who? or are they the same? and please could anyone quote sources.......i am geting more and more lost
xxx
shanniee
QUOTE(Cloudwalker @ Oct 30 2007, 05:05 PM) *
How do you know he looks the same after 400 years?

Read some facts and spoilers of Insider they add up the current episode made his spoiler(s) legit. wink.gif
Cloudwalker
QUOTE(shanniee @ Oct 30 2007, 08:39 AM) *
Read some facts and spoilers of Insider they add up the current episode made his spoiler(s) legit. wink.gif


I've read he was one of the founders of the company here:

http://heroeswiki.com/Adam_Monroe

And the founders of the company were that 12 people right? So he should be on the photo.

And i don't want to read spoilers smile.gif
shanniee
QUOTE(Cloudwalker @ Oct 30 2007, 06:00 PM) *
I've read he was one of the founders of the company here:

http://heroeswiki.com/Adam_Monroe

And the founders of the company were that 12 people right? So he should be on the photo.

And i don't want to read spoilers smile.gif

Let's just say that he has a past relationship with The Company wink.gif
But he isnt one of the founders I believe (possible but then he shouldve been on the picture).
bignas1234
OMG i missed this during the episode, must of been the tiredness as i watched it at 5am in the morning, nice find man
i think it does point out that Adam= Kensei, as kensei did side with white beard at the end of the episode
shanniee
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Oct 30 2007, 06:36 PM) *
OMG i missed this during the episode, must of been the tiredness as i watched it at 5am in the morning, nice find man
i think it does point out that Adam= Kensei, as kensei did side with white beard at the end of the episode

Yes must be true ! biggrin.gif
Jayranger
I honestly hope Adam Monroe is not Kensei, considering the amount of speculation we've already discussed from day one. I'd like that it was a new character people met and maybe had a fight with Elle hence his abilities. Also, if Peter has already met Kensei, I have a theory on how he might be revealed subtlely...


Perhaps Peter gets hit with Elle's thunderbolts and then comes back to life? This immortality surely means that he's met Kensei?
Cloudwalker
QUOTE(Jayranger @ Oct 30 2007, 10:20 AM) *
Perhaps Peter gets hit with Elle's thunderbolts and then comes back to life? This immortality surely means that he's met Kensei?


Peter already has Claires ability..
shanniee
QUOTE(Cloudwalker @ Oct 30 2007, 08:23 PM) *
Peter already has Claires ability..

yea... Has he watched season 1 lol biggrin.gif
bignas1234
QUOTE(shanniee @ Oct 30 2007, 11:57 AM) *
yea... Has he watched season 1 lol biggrin.gif


missin out if he didn't, its like watchin a movie from the middle to the end
blasua
yes It looks that kensei is also adam but is papa petrelli too
maxxann
QUOTE(sirgrim @ Oct 30 2007, 04:04 PM) *
A link to Adam? When Peter goes into that place..



I just have a question: in the Sword Saint, Kensei committed suicide to save the princess from the dragon, right? So it means, that he is not immortal. BUT: then, it was just a story. And it can also mean that Hiro is the one who messed things up by going to the past, kissing the princess and making kensei turn against them. making him mean and bad... and perhaps it is also Hiro who have brought Kensei to the future. BUT: if kensei is adam monroe and is kane = I don't get it. How did he survive all those years? and if he didn't, couldn't it be that he can travel time too? maybe, just maybe, he's another sylar or peter... who can absorb power. And the reason why he's been all over time is because he travels back and forth to fix his fate... like what Hiro did... I dunno... help me out!! please!!!

and that's why he's just about the same age. because he's travelling time at the same time Hiro went to 1671. I guess...

and that's why he's just about the same age. because he's travelling time at the same time Hiro went to 1671. I guess...

QUOTE(chimps_n_pimps @ Oct 31 2007, 12:21 AM) *
ok.....i need somone to clear up this big kensei/adam/kane mess up thats make my head turn to jelly.....
who is who? or are they the same? and please could anyone quote sources.......i am geting more and more lost
xxx

dude, I'm with ya. My brain is also turning jelly. I have lots of questions about that Kane = Adam = Kensei theory. It may be that Kensei is not Adam but Adam is a decendant of Kensei...
comatose
count me in. i cant even get any useful information on the name kane and i've been wondering if theres such a character that exist in the series.
mitchyboi
i dont know where the name kane came from(possible i missed it) but i havent heard of him anywhere in the first or second chapters and who ever he is i doubt he's kenzai, who is pretty much definitely adam monroe.
shanniee
They say Adam Monroe aka Kensei = immortal. This means he wouldnt age, which can explain that he lives in the present and the future.
About Adam cutting his own heart is ofcourse not literally but metaphorically.
It means that Adam used to be good, but then he had a change of heart and worked for Whitebeard.
This explains the cutting out heart part. The leaving part is ofcourse he was never to be seen again which we most likely see next episode.

The Dragon is metaphorically meant as Hiro. As he wanted the princess and kissed her, but couldn't have her... Kensei had a change of heart because of this.... Hope you 2 understand this now smile.gif

Kensei/Adam can survive all those years because he cant DIE tongue.gif laugh.gif
He's been waiting for a long time to meet Hiro again I suppose wink.gif
deckstor
QUOTE(shanniee @ Oct 31 2007, 05:01 PM) *
They say Adam Monroe aka Kensei = immortal. This means he wouldnt age, which can explain that he lives in the present and the future.
About Adam cutting his own heart is ofcourse not literally but metaphorically.
It means that Adam used to be good, but then he had a change of heart and worked for Whitebeard.
This explains the cutting out heart part. The leaving part is ofcourse he was never to be seen again which we most likely see next episode.

The Dragon is metaphorically meant as Hiro. As he wanted the princess and kissed her, but couldn't have her... Kensei had a change of heart because of this.... Hope you 2 understand this now smile.gif

Kensei/Adam can survive all those years because he cant DIE tongue.gif laugh.gif
He's been waiting for a long time to meet Hiro again I suppose wink.gif


i like your analysis and i agree fully with your theory?


maybe except the waiting to meet hiro part ha ha.
chrisrayn
i like this theory or spoiler or whatever it is. His name being "Adam" makes sense as to why Hiro went to the past even further. Of course he's Takezo Kensei, but at the same time he could be the first genetic variation in the human species. Thus, the name "Adam" would make sense...the first man in this new "race" of humanity. The question is really, now, who was or is his "Eve."

I'm assuming that Adam lived so long because age would be considered an injury...and if age is an injury he can heal from it. Thus, his healing makes him immortal. So, barring brain injury, Peter and Claire are immortal as well.
bignas1234
QUOTE(shanniee @ Oct 31 2007, 01:01 AM) *
They say Adam Monroe aka Kensei = immortal. This means he wouldnt age, which can explain that he lives in the present and the future.
About Adam cutting his own heart is ofcourse not literally but metaphorically.
It means that Adam used to be good, but then he had a change of heart and worked for Whitebeard.
This explains the cutting out heart part. The leaving part is ofcourse he was never to be seen again which we most likely see next episode.

The Dragon is metaphorically meant as Hiro. As he wanted the princess and kissed her, but couldn't have her... Kensei had a change of heart because of this.... Hope you 2 understand this now smile.gif

Kensei/Adam can survive all those years because he cant DIE tongue.gif laugh.gif
He's been waiting for a long time to meet Hiro again I suppose wink.gif


lol, nice analysis, this is sumthing i didn't forsee ( the dragon being hiro)

QUOTE
I'm assuming that Adam lived so long because age would be considered an injury...and if age is an injury he can heal from it. Thus, his healing makes him immortal. So, barring brain injury, Peter and Claire are immortal as well.


Yep i guess they are immortal, none of them can be killed, they will just regenerate
shanniee
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Nov 1 2007, 06:08 PM) *
lol, nice analysis, this is sumthing i didn't forsee ( the dragon being hiro)
Yep i guess they are immortal, none of them can be killed, they will just regenerate

But how come they "died"...
It seems that they died specifically the part where the brain is controlling/using the abilities in the back lower part of the brains.
minara
Has anyone else considered the possibility that Kensei is the leader of the Irish mob? Isn't there supposed to be a 1000 year old Irish mobster in this season?
Jayranger
QUOTE(Cloudwalker @ Oct 30 2007, 11:23 AM) *
Peter already has Claires ability..



QUOTE(shanniee @ Oct 30 2007, 11:57 AM) *
yea... Has he watched season 1 lol biggrin.gif


Man, I'm dumb. Just realized that....... tongue.gif
bignas1234
QUOTE(shanniee @ Nov 1 2007, 11:11 AM) *
But how come they "died"...
It seems that they died specifically the part where the brain is controlling/using the abilities in the back lower part of the brains.


true, well lets just say they won't die if you shoot them anywhere else in their body (except the brain)
smile.gif

(quote)Has anyone else considered the possibility that Kensei is the leader of the Irish mob? Isn't there supposed to be a 1000 year old Irish mobster in this season?(/quote)

never heard this one before huh.gif
shanniee
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Nov 2 2007, 12:59 AM) *
true, well lets just say they won't die if you shoot them anywhere else in their body (except the brain)
smile.gif

(quote)Has anyone else considered the possibility that Kensei is the leader of the Irish mob? Isn't there supposed to be a 1000 year old Irish mobster in this season?(/quote)

never heard this one before huh.gif

There were spoilers before the start of the second season and they said look out for a 1000 year old mobster. Seems this isnt true after all tongue.gif
maxxann
QUOTE(mitchyboi @ Oct 31 2007, 04:57 PM) *
i dont know where the name kane came from(possible i missed it) but i havent heard of him anywhere in the first or second chapters and who ever he is i doubt he's kenzai, who is pretty much definitely adam monroe.


Actually, I don't know who kane is too... but something interesting I saw in Wiki... Adam Kane. A director for one of the episodes of Heroes... sounds like?? Adam... Kane.... wonder if they got the names from him? Something to prove that they are One and the same?

check this link:

http://heroeswiki.com/Adam_Kane
shanniee
QUOTE(maxxann @ Nov 5 2007, 08:43 AM) *
Actually, I don't know who kane is too... but something interesting I saw in Wiki... Adam Kane. A director for one of the episodes of Heroes... sounds like?? Adam... Kane.... wonder if they got the names from him? Something to prove that they are One and the same?

check this link:

http://heroeswiki.com/Adam_Kane

Could be true smile.gif
Nice find man smile.gif
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