Usually i dont whinge about the effects in Heroes..i just watch the show

and i never really complain about the story line..

but the one thing that turned me off from the last episode in Season 1, was the special effects used when Peter was about to blow up...

For some reason, after watching Episode 6, "The Line", i have a terrible feeling that Season 2s ending will probably be ruined (for me) bcoz of the crappy special fx..

I just hope that when the story starts getting more intense, the special fx get just a little better..

Anyone else?

i agree with you, i find that sometimes the special fx aren't so special, but they have a budget they have to stick to(which sucks) but its the way it is, thankfully the writting is superb and thats whats really important.

definately!
the amazingly awesome story lines keep me attatched to the show..

its a shame that they have a small budget, but they could use it wisely..

Like the scenes in Ukraine (using CGI)
Why not just find an area, spray some fake snow around and save alot of money

With that saved money, spend it on the New York scene to make it look more realistic

yeh, that cgi was the worst, i could find a more realistic scene of russia underneith my bed

i thought russia wasn't bad compared to last week, but I couldn't believe how fake it looked when Peter and Caitlin ended up in Times Square.

i think it was worst when west and claire were flying.. heh..

and at least the power sfx are still cool, right..



..right..?

Lmao yeah, when she fell, it's like watching a cartoon. Soooo bad.

When Claire fell.

Russia scene.

Future Times Square.

Well, at least, monica's gymnastic scene looked cool...

yep coz it wasnt a fx scence. Stunt double. looked awesome though. ppl go under intense practise and hard work to get to that stage and monica just stares at it fro a minute probably eating popcorn and does it ditto. kinda unfair actuially! lol

plus, the russia scence was somewhat nice this ep. i always hate west flying, esp when that guy flew after that cheerleader. hated peter/caitlin NYC scence. though the promo looked cool!!

They have definitely gone down since last year. Maybe they're saving up for Spectacular effects in future episodes? I mean we have only gone through 6 episodes...

I think it has to do a lot with the fact that they keep putting people all over the world where as last year they were fairly central...

The Times Square green screen was ultra cringe-worthy. Couldn't they have done something to make it look less...green-screenish? Their CGI was a lot more realistic looking last season. I'm hoping this means they'll be using more top notch effects in the later episodes (or at least in the episodes that rely mostly on CGI).

My own humble opinion the flying effects have been consistently bad. The Ukraine outdoors was also too blue screen for my liking they need to keep the shots tighter. Just don't show so much! Still pisses on anything the UK would be able to produce though! BBC has always been bad SFX wise! See any episode of Dr.Who for my point!!!

personally i kinda like the bad fx. like you all have said the story is awesome. i think its awesome enough that i don't snap out of it whenever something cheezy like a blue screen is noticable. also i kinda think it gives the show a classic tv/comic book feel. (maybe that wasnt their intention but whatever) like said before, the bbc still has kick a** shows. red drawf, dr who.

lol, don't get me started on this

I do agree that the FX in Heroes is a bit behind the times especially when anyone starts flying and they give us a Superman camera view. It looks so fake but the unparalleled writing and engaging storyline proves that you don't need high-budget CGI to produce a masterpiece television series.

The reason the Russia scene didn't look like Russia... was because it wasn't Russia.

Duh.

It was Ukraine. Not Russia.

But yes, agreed they are bad.. but also to be fair, i couldn't do any better with my photoshop skills!
But yes, also bery much agreed the bad fx don't bother be in the slightest, noticable but still doesnt worry me. As long as the story stays awesome.

its simple they have a crap budget they have to stick to it, meaning they are going to have to use computerized scenes and fx
idk mind this, as long as they have an interesting storyline this is what will keep me watching

I think the FX are good enough. The Ukraine background could of been better, but overall the FX are alright.

cgi sux

They couldnt even get the most simplest of things right..

The bit where Kensei punches Hiro on the back of the head, looked sooooo crap

It was so delayed...

It was like
PUNCH
pause
pause
pause
OOWWWW (falls on floor)

Before I go any further...Heroes has a much larger budget than Doctor Who and Doctor Who does AMAZING SFX (See The Last 3 episodes for examples) and Heroes FX just looks crap sometimes

Hmm. I personally didn't like West's flying scenes... and of course the overly blue-screened scenes... Noah in Ukraine.. Peter in deserted New York.. etc.

it didn't look like he even touched him let alone punch him, Hiro didn't even feel it that's why he took the pause and the he was like ' o sh**, im supposed to fall to the floor now'

Hmm maybe we're being too harsh and giving too much criticism... ?

i second that with a, yes i think were being to critical.

lol, true, cudn't help myself
i'll stop now
i'll still keep watching the shows aswell

definately! same here...
nothing will stop me from watching the show

but unfortunately, there are ppl who will probably stop watching bcoz of the crappy graphics..

oh well....their loss!

I hope the producers realize that so many people are nitpicking apart the effects, because on the DVD for season one, they proclaim that the effects are so good that no one bothers to talk about how they were done, that people just acknowledge and accept what they are seeing.

I can tell things are green screened; but I'm not about to dissect each and every episode, looking for bad editing or bad effects.

I think people should just watch and enjoy. We have it good compared to how unbelievable effects used to be, especially on television.

I second that on ya
Technology is progressing constantly, so improvements arent that far away if you considered it ages ago New techniques comes every year and so people wont see that much the same techniques these days Whereas it was 10 years ago they used the same technology for 30 years or more

The effects never bother me while I watch the show for the first time. It's when I watch it a second time, especially after reading comments in the forum that I start noticing. But hey, I'm old enough to have seen the first Chris Reeves Superman movie and it's cheesy effects in the theater, so I am really not bothered with what I see on Heroes! I let myself be driven by the story and I'm satisfied.
I prefer a good script with bad effects than the opposite.

yep same ere, i don't let the bad special fx bother, i just interested in the storyline

Hmm sometimes I also pay attention to the graphics as it makes the storylines a little bit better at least to me that is. But if the storylines itself are good, then the graphics ofcourse wont make it worse it could only make it better

Haha I started watching Blood Ties (awesome, AWESOME vampire show) and now THAT has some cheesy effects. But it doesn't make me angry or get my knickers in a knot, you know what I'm saying?

I defitenely know what your saying

Don't worry, the effects will be perfected in due time
Sometimes, even if the effects are poor, the actors pull it off. And Milo pulled it off for me.

Hiro's stopping time is my fav ! Then Sylar's TK

Maybe they spend most of the money on the actors, so that there isn't enough left for better effects?
I don't really mind though. I don't watch it because of the effects, but because of the actors

Actors do get paid well I think in a good tv show..
I remember the actors of Friends got paid 1 million for each episode in season10.
So you can assume that the Heroes actors (regulars) get paid well for each episode I think

This week's New York didn't seem too bad.

If you look at the extras from Season One's DVD set they explain why they don't go over the top on special effects. Mainly because of $$$ issues and the fact that they like to shoot the show from a comic book esque point of view. And alot of times when you get into all the CG animation and all that other junk it limits the cam angles and also draws away your attention from the expression of the actors and their words. And 'Heroes' is a show where dialouge is very important.

Green screen and CGI for locations is a waste of money. Look at Lost - they recreated internationally famous locations from all over the world (and several decades) all by filming on a tight lens in different bits of Hawaii...

And as someone already mentioned - Dr Who (and the spin-off Torchwood) are both made for buttons but the effects crucial to the stories, and are totally believable.

Luckily for me I'm watching this whole season on a three-inch inset (it won't run at full screen) streamed on my mate's crappy laptop, so I can't tell if the effects in Heroes are good, bad or terrible!!

The story rocks, that's all I can see from here.. Except for whatever it is going on in ancient Japan of course...