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theLunastar
Did anyone else love Sylar in this episode as much as I did?? He's so awesome, I love the storyline with Maya/Alejandro & Sylar!
shanniee
QUOTE(theLunastar @ Oct 30 2007, 02:56 PM) *
Did anyone else love Sylar in this episode as much as I did?? He's so awesome, I love the storyline with Maya/Alejandro & Sylar!


Maya has become Sylinder biggrin.gif
She is becoming evuuuuuuuuul
The DOKTOR
QUOTE(theLunastar @ Oct 30 2007, 09:56 AM) *
Did anyone else love Sylar in this episode as much as I did?? He's so awesome, I love the storyline with Maya/Alejandro & Sylar!

I find Sylar much more interesting this year. Not that he wasn't last season but making him powerless makes him rely on his wits and evil ways solely.
shanniee
QUOTE(The DOKTOR @ Oct 30 2007, 04:25 PM) *
I find Sylar much more interesting this year. Not that he wasn't last season but making him powerless makes him rely on his wits and evil ways solely.

exactly. biggrin.gif
Im soooo loving Sylar now lol
He's such a fantastic actor playing such an evil guy biggrin.gif
Cloudwalker
I didn't understand why he told Allejandro he would kill him when he gets his powers back. Because Maya and Allejandro can easy kill him..
shanniee
QUOTE(Cloudwalker @ Oct 30 2007, 04:32 PM) *
I didn't understand why he told Allejandro he would kill him when he gets his powers back. Because Maya and Allejandro can easy kill him..

But if he kills Alejandro when he has his powers back he would be immune to Maya's power...
So I dont really understand you now tongue.gif
Cloudwalker
The point is, he can't kill Allejandro now (not with his powers). Maya can kill Sylar (with her power)

So why does he tells he will kill Allejandro? If Allejandro tells Maya she will be in panic and cry and kill Sylar? Or am i missing something?

eyz
QUOTE(Cloudwalker @ Oct 30 2007, 11:37 PM) *
The point is, he can't kill Allejandro now (not with his powers). Maya can kill Sylar (with her power)

So why does he tells he will kill Allejandro? If Allejandro tells Maya she will be in panic and cry and kill Sylar? Or am i missing something?


Alejandro doesn't understand English, if I recall correctly. So Alejandro would not understand anything that Sylar had said, thus making it impossible for Alejandro to tell Maya about it. Anyway I doubt Maya will believe Alejandro, the way she's drooling at Sylar.
shanniee
QUOTE(Cloudwalker @ Oct 30 2007, 04:37 PM) *
The point is, he can't kill Allejandro now (not with his powers). Maya can kill Sylar (with her power)

So why does he tells he will kill Allejandro? If Allejandro tells Maya she will be in panic and cry and kill Sylar? Or am i missing something?

You actually answered your own question.
Sylar said he would kill Alejandro IF he gets his powers back. So when he has his Telekinesis etc back....
Hope you understand now smile.gif
Cloudwalker
QUOTE(shanniee @ Oct 30 2007, 07:47 AM) *
You actually answered your own question.
Sylar said he would kill Alejandro IF he gets his powers back. So when he has his Telekinesis etc back....
Hope you understand now smile.gif


That's still a reason for Allejandro to get rid of Sylar, so not a smart move because they are with 2 versus 1.

But the fact that Allejandro doesn't speak englisch explains it wink.gif
shanniee
QUOTE(Cloudwalker @ Oct 30 2007, 05:02 PM) *
That's still a reason for Allejandro to get rid of Sylar, so not a smart move because they are with 2 versus 1.

But the fact that Allejandro doesn't speak englisch explains it wink.gif

exactly.
rashktah
Sylar's just great and his party with Allejandro and Maya keep getting better and better. Brilliant.
Chibi
QUOTE(eyz @ Oct 30 2007, 12:46 PM) *
Alejandro doesn't understand English, if I recall correctly. So Alejandro would not understand anything that Sylar had said, thus making it impossible for Alejandro to tell Maya about it. Anyway I doubt Maya will believe Alejandro, the way she's drooling at Sylar.


Agree completely! She is SOOO in love with Sylar, poor girl, she's getting she and her brother killed!! xD
And yeah, he doesn't understand english, that explains his "I have no ideia what's he's saying" face!

mr. peasant
I don't know... I like and can really see them further developing the whole Maya/Sylar relationship. However, I suspect (and hope) that the producers are going to evolve Sylar into a somewhat less evil character. I don't know, it's just a general rule that the previous season's Big Bad only returns if s/he becomes no longer evil, or at least not hostilely antagonistic to the protagonists (example: Spike from Buffy).

I don't really have any evidence or reasons for it. It's just a gut instinct of mine and it seems the least expected route of development for the character.
bignas1234
im pretty sure syler sed in the beginning of his speech to Alej that 'u probably don't understand anything im saying' blah blah blah(sumin like that)

Syler is EVIL, love his acting in this season, he's playing Maya like a toy with strings

Syler will kill Alej eventually smile.gif
thedave
QUOTE(Cloudwalker @ Oct 30 2007, 08:32 AM) *
I didn't understand why he told Allejandro he would kill him when he gets his powers back. Because Maya and Allejandro can easy kill him..


If you remember when he started talking to him, he said, "I know you can't understand me, but I wanted to tell you...." Kind of a "let's get this off my chest" moment that all evil guys like to have. wink.gif

D
sylar9999
ohmy.gif That was just incredible sylar absoloutely sucked in Maya. she's gone after alejandro definetly!
shanniee
Who's next on the Sylar cut list ? biggrin.gif
Merlin13j
i believe claire would be next on his hit list because of whathappened at the end of season 1 with hiro stabbing him and him(sylar) needing 8+ surgeries to get better, which may also speed up the rate at which he gets his powers back.
KoR-evo
Sylar is the one consistently great character in Heroes..not only does ZQ understand and portray him so well, but he is superbly written. The scene with him threatening Alejandro even though he couldn't understand him was spectacular..the little nod that Sylar gave at the end of that speech was so cunning and spoke a thousand words.

I've always liked Maya and Ale but they are even more interesting now that Sylar is grooming Maya as his "shiny new toy".
Archis
Loved the expression ZQ gave after he gave that threat.
it was sorta a nod as in "You get me".."im gonna cut ure a** without even touching it" lol
bignas1234
he is an awesome actor, the best part of the episode was syler's bit when he openly threatened Alej
now i wonder who he wants to kill next....wud be Alej (sarcasm)
lets jus say it now that he is a goner
shanniee
QUOTE(-sparky- @ Nov 1 2007, 10:50 AM) *
I find it difficult to believe that a pair of twins, who are inseparable,
would be apart for long enough for Maya to learn English and not Alej...

I think that Alej *DOES* speak English, or can at least understand it as
well as Maya, and it is *he* that is playing with Sylar...

They're now inseperable but before they discovered they had powers...
They might've been not so close as they are now ;)
Cylar
Thank you all for praising me. (haha). Anyway, sooner or later we will see a scene of Sylar just thinking of something, and it suddenly moves into his hand... Then he will like "O.o... hehehe"(in his classic Sylar-ish way), and grin evilly at Alejandro and Maya...

Later on there will probably be a confrontation between Sylar and Alejandro... with Maya somewhere else. *scene then cuts to another storyline, and when we return to this storyline* Maya returns and she would ask what happened to Gabriel and Alejandro would probably say something like he got rid of him. Maya will probably get all pissed, but eventually they drive off... The the scene cuts back to "dead Sylar" and we see the illusion fade and replaced with a open-headed Alejandro... haha.
bignas1234
QUOTE(Cylar @ Nov 1 2007, 09:24 AM) *
Thank you all for praising me. (haha). Anyway, sooner or later we will see a scene of Sylar just thinking of something, and it suddenly moves into his hand... Then he will like "O.o... hehehe"(in his classic Sylar-ish way), and grin evilly at Alejandro and Maya...

Later on there will probably be a confrontation between Sylar and Alejandro... with Maya somewhere else. *scene then cuts to another storyline, and when we return to this storyline* Maya returns and she would ask what happened to Gabriel and Alejandro would probably say something like he got rid of him. Maya will probably get all pissed, but eventually they drive off... The the scene cuts back to "dead Sylar" and we see the illusion fade and replaced with a open-headed Alejandro... haha.


more like the two lovers drive off into the sun set, happily ever after
Maya: What u want for tea?
Syler: Brains and eggs ohmy.gif
scene ends
shanniee
Sylar will show that fool who the boss is biggrin.gif

Sylar:"I'd like to see how your ability works... SHOW ME!".
bignas1234
QUOTE(shanniee @ Nov 1 2007, 11:07 AM) *
Sylar will show that fool who the boss is biggrin.gif

Sylar:"I'd like to see how your ability works... SHOW ME!".


Sylar:"I'd like to see how your ability works... SHOW ME!".
Alej: 'No English' smile.gif
mr. peasant
QUOTE(-sparky- @ Nov 1 2007, 03:34 AM) *
When they went to visit their family friend who was going to help them get to the USA
she said to them that they hadn't changed in all the years she had known them...
That being that Alej and Maya were always close together and looking after each other...


Just because they are close doesn't mean they spend every single second of the day together, prior to Maya's powers showing up at least. They are inseparable now because they're both on the run and only Alej is able to turn his sister off. Before that, they might have been close in that they spend lots of time together and got along well but still had separate lives in the form of different jobs, friends, etc. which would account for Maya picking up a new language.
Bloody
And here I thought the guy couldn't act worth a d***...we finally see a glimmer of talent. Probably just a fluke.

PS. can't wait to see if he eats Monica's brains...maybe then he can learn to act. Tee-Hee!
shanniee
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Nov 2 2007, 01:47 AM) *
Sylar:"I'd like to see how your ability works... SHOW ME!".
Alej: 'No English' smile.gif

That would be awkward laugh.gif
A killer is talking in a strange language to you and is going to kill you...
And you say that you dont speak the language... So awfull for him biggrin.gif
qinrawks
QUOTE(shanniee @ Nov 2 2007, 05:24 PM) *
That would be awkward laugh.gif
A killer is talking in a strange language to you and is going to kill you...
And you say that you dont speak the language... So awfull for him biggrin.gif


He would probably be able to pick up some bad vibes from Sylar's menacing look though. I don't want Alej to die! Although it seems pretty inevitable now.
shanniee
QUOTE(qinrawks @ Nov 2 2007, 02:53 PM) *
He would probably be able to pick up some bad vibes from Sylar's menacing look though. I don't want Alej to die! Although it seems pretty inevitable now.

You can pretty much bet on Alejandro to be killed but the question is, will it be done by Sylar ?? biggrin.gif
bignas1234
QUOTE(shanniee @ Nov 2 2007, 06:48 AM) *
You can pretty much bet on Alejandro to be killed but the question is, will it be done by Sylar ?? biggrin.gif


i think he will, plus we only kno of syler atm hu has a problem with him and he wants his power
shanniee
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Nov 2 2007, 06:26 PM) *
i think he will, plus we only kno of syler atm hu has a problem with him and he wants his power

Well I guess Alejandro is going to get killed.
We can guess that he will die before ep 11 where Sylar will get supposedly defeated/killed by Elle.
With Elle in company is Mohinder, Maya and Molly. No Alejandro.
So Alejandro got to be killed before that...

With what will Sylar kill Alejandro?
Anyone up for a guess ? tongue.gif A brick ?
A shovel? biggrin.gif
bignas1234
QUOTE(shanniee @ Nov 2 2007, 01:59 PM) *
Well I guess Alejandro is going to get killed.
We can guess that he will die before ep 11 where Sylar will get supposedly defeated/killed by Elle.
With Elle in company is Mohinder, Maya and Molly. No Alejandro.
So Alejandro got to be killed before that...

With what will Sylar kill Alejandro?
Anyone up for a guess ? tongue.gif A brick ?
A shovel? biggrin.gif


his pinky toe, shove it down his throat, choke him to death
shanniee
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Nov 2 2007, 11:52 PM) *
his pinky toe, shove it down his throat, choke him to death

he has a pinky toe ? biggrin.gif laugh.gif
mr. peasant
QUOTE(shanniee @ Nov 2 2007, 01:59 PM) *
Well I guess Alejandro is going to get killed.
We can guess that he will die before ep 11 where Sylar will get supposedly defeated/killed by Elle.
With Elle in company is Mohinder, Maya and Molly. No Alejandro.
So Alejandro got to be killed before that...

With what will Sylar kill Alejandro?
Anyone up for a guess ? tongue.gif A brick ?
A shovel? biggrin.gif


I'd reckon it'd somehow involve Maya killing Alej off. Seeing as how manipulative he's been lately, Sylar could probably be able to convince Maya to impale Alej on a lamppost if he wanted to.
bignas1234
QUOTE(shanniee @ Nov 2 2007, 03:37 PM) *
he has a pinky toe ? biggrin.gif laugh.gif


or another good one would be running him over with claires car
shanniee
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Nov 3 2007, 12:57 AM) *
or another good one would be running him over with claires car

I'd go with pinky toe biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Archis
Hmmm...maybe first shoving the pinky toe in the throat then running him over with the Claire's car laugh.gif
shanniee
QUOTE(Archis @ Nov 3 2007, 02:22 PM) *
Hmmm...maybe first shoving the pinky toe in the throat then running him over with the Claire's car laugh.gif

If I were Sylar, I'd let Maya kill Alejandro. That would be the most cruel way biggrin.gif
Archis
QUOTE(shanniee)
If I were Sylar, I'd let Maya kill Alejandro. That would be the most cruel way biggrin.gif


Ooooo...Betrayal! From yoour own sister who've you've fought for so long. I like that.
But aniwas...hes immune from Maya's bloody eye so i guess Sylar has to think of another evil plan.
Cylar
One of the episode descriptions was that Maya had to choose between Sylar or Alejandro. I guess she picks Alejandro, and if they don't kill Sylar then, then Sylar will probably catch up with them in New York, and in some time kill Alejandro. And who said something about Elle killing Sylar? Cos I read somewhere that Zachary will play Sylar for some of this season, then go off for Star Trek, then return again later...

Then again, if the Writer's strike happens we can drop all discussion of the future of this season and start speculating as to how they end everything at episode 11. =/
shanniee
QUOTE(Cylar @ Nov 4 2007, 04:26 PM) *
One of the episode descriptions was that Maya had to choose between Sylar or Alejandro. I guess she picks Alejandro, and if they don't kill Sylar then, then Sylar will probably catch up with them in New York, and in some time kill Alejandro. And who said something about Elle killing Sylar? Cos I read somewhere that Zachary will play Sylar for some of this season, then go off for Star Trek, then return again later...

Then again, if the Writer's strike happens we can drop all discussion of the future of this season and start speculating as to how they end everything at episode 11. =/

Elle will supposedly kill Sylar at Isaac Mendez's loft but he'll come back next season I believe, but only if the writers strike will be off and Heroes continues... It's very doubtfull that Heroes continues as it currently is.
Archis
well if he doesnt re-acquire his power back then even mr.muggles can kill him...biggrin.gif
shanniee
QUOTE(Archis @ Nov 4 2007, 06:17 PM) *
well if he doesnt re-acquire his power back then even mr.muggles can kill him...biggrin.gif

mr. muggles could lick Sylar till death tongue.gif
maxxann
QUOTE(theLunastar @ Oct 30 2007, 09:56 PM) *
Did anyone else love Sylar in this episode as much as I did?? He's so awesome, I love the storyline with Maya/Alejandro & Sylar!

No I don't. I think he's messy... lol
Archis
QUOTE(shanniee)
mr. muggles could lick Sylar till death tongue.gif


Then probably sylar can take his brain too and then insteaed of the cockraoch, we'll have mr.muggles sitting at every body he kills! lol
maxxann
QUOTE(Archis @ Nov 5 2007, 01:24 PM) *
Then probably sylar can take his brain too and then insteaed of the cockraoch, we'll have mr.muggles sitting at every body he kills! lol

Or Mr. Muggles can turn into that pomeranian vampire like in Blade Trinity. lol
shanniee
QUOTE(maxxann @ Nov 5 2007, 08:23 AM) *
Or Mr. Muggles can turn into that pomeranian vampire like in Blade Trinity. lol

D*mn that was so gross to see :x
It freaked me out...
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