scottyc
Oct 30 2007, 01:15 PM
In some of the earlier episode forums, people were questioning what Noah's ability might be. After watching "The Line" I think I may have an idea. It is possible that Noah has the ability to speak any language. In this last episode he spoke Russian (at least I think it was Russian, maybe it was Ukrainian). In an episode in the first season, he spoke Japanese to Hiro when he took Hiro to see Kaito. He also thought in Japanese when Parkman tried to read his mind. So I'll stick my neck out on the line and say he has an ability that allows him to speak any language he encounters. Any thoughts?
He may also have other abilities (i.e. something like the ability to kill for the great good, just kidding). I will be interested to see if he can speak Spanish when he runs into Maya.
"The Line" was a great episode for setting up the what will happen next.
Ryan777
Oct 30 2007, 01:31 PM
Sounds cool, but it'd have to have a cool name like :
Infinitlingusim, Or something close to that. However I have know clue how that could evolve.
mr. peasant
Oct 30 2007, 03:21 PM
No, I don't think Bennet has or needs an ability. This isn't X-Men, where every character needs a special power. To me, his resourcefulness despite his lack of abilities is part of what makes him such a cool character. Giving him an ability just makes him more like the rest.
Rod
Oct 30 2007, 03:31 PM
I think he just learned languages because the company told him
shanniee
Oct 30 2007, 03:39 PM
Some people needs to realise... that there are also people withouth any special ability...
bignas1234
Oct 30 2007, 05:01 PM
i don't think bennet has an ability, any human can learn many languages
maybe he needed to be fluent in many languages to join the company as he will be travelling world wide ....
The DOKTOR
Oct 30 2007, 05:12 PM
Bennet has no special ability I just think he's really resourceful and highly intelligent.
bignas1234
Oct 30 2007, 05:16 PM
QUOTE(The DOKTOR @ Oct 30 2007, 05:12 PM)

Bennet has no special ability I just think he's really resourceful and highly intelligent.
right with ya on that one, skilled, well educated, intelligent man
more like me lol
Quaarl
Oct 30 2007, 09:33 PM
Yeah, I mean the guy took a man down with his finger, no problem. Bottom line, the guys been a friggin secret agent all his life.
Anyway, the company makes a point of coupling gifted and normal agents. And, it SEEMS, neither claude nor the haitian are the latter of those two.
I could be wrong on that one, though.
maxxann
Oct 30 2007, 10:48 PM
QUOTE(scottyc @ Oct 31 2007, 05:15 AM)

In some of the earlier episode forums, people were questioning what Noah's ability might be. After watching "The Line" I think I may have an idea. It is possible that Noah has the ability to speak any language. In this last episode he spoke Russian (at least I think it was Russian, maybe it was Ukrainian). In an episode in the first season, he spoke Japanese to Hiro when he took Hiro to see Kaito. He also thought in Japanese when Parkman tried to read his mind. So I'll stick my neck out on the line and say he has an ability that allows him to speak any language he encounters. Any thoughts?
He may also have other abilities (i.e. something like the ability to kill for the great good, just kidding). I will be interested to see if he can speak Spanish when he runs into Maya.
"The Line" was a great episode for setting up the what will happen next.
What a coincidence! Just now, my friend was yakking about Bennet having an ability. At first, I said, none but she pointed out that he talks in different languages. So I say, yes, Noah has an ability and it may be that he can understand and speak all languages you can name in this planet...

yea, it would be interesting to see if he does speak in spanish when he bumps into Maya and Alejandro. I was hoping a showdown between Sylar and Bennet and Bennet talking to alejandro in spanish to connive. that would be totally cool.
comatose
Oct 30 2007, 10:49 PM
the ukrainian guy [what's his name again?] did mention training noah. so probably he was also trained to speak his language in case they need to talk of something that other's shouldn't know. maybe he was also trained to speak japanese cos kaito wasnt able to understand english at that time. but other than kaito, is there anyone else who's "foreign"?
maxxann
Oct 30 2007, 10:56 PM
QUOTE(scottyc @ Oct 31 2007, 05:15 AM)

In some of the earlier episode forums, people were questioning what Noah's ability might be. After watching "The Line" I think I may have an idea. It is possible that Noah has the ability to speak any language. In this last episode he spoke Russian (at least I think it was Russian, maybe it was Ukrainian). In an episode in the first season, he spoke Japanese to Hiro when he took Hiro to see Kaito. He also thought in Japanese when Parkman tried to read his mind. So I'll stick my neck out on the line and say he has an ability that allows him to speak any language he encounters. Any thoughts?
He may also have other abilities (i.e. something like the ability to kill for the great good, just kidding). I will be interested to see if he can speak Spanish when he runs into Maya.
"The Line" was a great episode for setting up the what will happen next.
It may be possible that Noah has an ability since all the agents in the company has "abilities." Like, Claude, or the one with the fire (graphic novel 57), the Haitian... so I think he has an ability. After all, the company is safeguarding its people from "normal" ones, right? So an agent without an ability (or not "one of them") can be considered a security breach. Like Mama Petrelli said, "if you dig deeper, they will find out about us." so that means, no normal human should know about them. So Noah is gifted too.
well, that's just me though.
QUOTE(mr. peasant @ Oct 31 2007, 07:21 AM)

No, I don't think Bennet has or needs an ability. This isn't X-Men, where every character needs a special power. To me, his resourcefulness despite his lack of abilities is part of what makes him such a cool character. Giving him an ability just makes him more like the rest.
It may be possible that Noah has an ability since all the agents in the company has "abilities." Like, Claude, or the one with the fire (graphic novel 57), the Haitian... so I think he has an ability. After all, the company is safeguarding its people from "normal" ones, right? So an agent without an ability (or not "one of them") can be considered a security breach. Like Mama Petrelli said, "if you dig deeper, they will find out about us." so that means, no normal human should know about them. So Noah is gifted too.
well, that's just me though.
amplification.
Oct 30 2007, 11:10 PM
I doubt it, though I guess it could be possible.
comatose
Oct 30 2007, 11:21 PM
i doubt thompson had an ability. and if i remembered correctly he did inform noah that he will be given a partner who has an ability. and that's how they pair up, one with ability and one with none.
perfectly-messy
Oct 30 2007, 11:24 PM
QUOTE(amplification. @ Oct 31 2007, 08:10 PM)

I doubt it, though I guess it could be possible.
i don't think so. Cuz the company usually team up an ordinary guy with someone extraordinary. If Noah has an ability like u guys said, then Ivan would have had a power too and he would have used it
Giving Noah a power is killing his character...i mean they already made Mohinder extraordinary, now why Noah? He doesn't need to have a power to be special
shanniee
Oct 31 2007, 01:09 AM
QUOTE(perfectly-messy @ Oct 31 2007, 08:24 AM)

i don't think so. Cuz the company usually team up an ordinary guy with someone extraordinary. If Noah has an ability like u guys said, then Ivan would have had a power too and he would have used it
Giving Noah a power is killing his character...i mean they already made Mohinder extraordinary, now why Noah? He doesn't need to have a power to be special
that is so true.
Noah is like the bomb of Heroes without any powers lol.
Hes bada$s enough without abilities... Guess what would've happen when he has powers
mitchyboi
Oct 31 2007, 01:33 AM
"It may be possible that Noah has an ability since all the agents in the company has "abilities." Like, Claude, or the one with the fire (graphic novel 57), the Haitian... so I think he has an ability. After all, the company is safeguarding its people from "normal" ones, right? So an agent without an ability (or not "one of them") can be considered a security breach." .....maxxann
Are you serious since when do all the people in the company have abilities, thats stupid, im pretty sure that even the graphic novel says that the guy with the fire hands partner has no ability, and noah's boss says to him when he introduces him to cluade that they pair norms and ppl with abilities together to keep things honest.
Triton
Nov 1 2007, 12:09 AM
QUOTE(perfectly-messy @ Oct 30 2007, 11:24 PM)

i don't think so. Cuz the company usually team up an ordinary guy with someone extraordinary. If Noah has an ability like u guys said, then Ivan would have had a power too and he would have used it
Giving Noah a power is killing his character...i mean they already made Mohinder extraordinary, now why Noah? He doesn't need to have a power to be special
Wait, Mohinder is extraordinary? In what way?
Shylock
Nov 1 2007, 12:15 AM
If he has any abilities, I would bet it's similar to that one waitress chick (Charlie?) that Hiro dug. Although the idea that he doesn't have any abilities whatsoever is the best route. Makes him more badass that he could stand up to these guys and still kick a** without any advantages aside from his own intellect.
Da.Cu-Ba
Nov 1 2007, 01:30 AM
I don't think HRG has special ability's..
He's just cool (h)
maxxann
Nov 1 2007, 05:51 AM
QUOTE(perfectly-messy @ Oct 31 2007, 03:24 PM)

i don't think so. Cuz the company usually team up an ordinary guy with someone extraordinary. If Noah has an ability like u guys said, then Ivan would have had a power too and he would have used it
Giving Noah a power is killing his character...i mean they already made Mohinder extraordinary, now why Noah? He doesn't need to have a power to be special
Well, the ability to speak different language is really not that powerful anyway. If Ivan has an ability and he didn't use it, maybe it's not that helpful when he was tied up and about to die. I mean, Matt PArkman can read minds, but that's all. He dies when he gets shot, right? So it doesn't really make HRG uncool if he can indeed speak languages... he's still a bad-a** person. What good would it do if he speaks languages anyway, it won't shield him from getting fried or shot or drown... whatever. he would still die anyway, not like Claire.. or Kensei
deckstor
Nov 1 2007, 06:01 AM
tim kring would know that filling up the whole of heroes with people of supernatural abilities would mean a boring cliche little tv show.
qinrawks
Nov 2 2007, 05:58 AM
Yeah exactly. We have to get out of the mindset that everyone in this show has abilities. It's called Heroes, but you don't have to have an ability to be a Hero.
shanniee
Nov 2 2007, 06:49 AM
QUOTE(qinrawks @ Nov 2 2007, 02:58 PM)

Yeah exactly. We have to get out of the mindset that everyone in this show has abilities. It's called Heroes, but you don't have to have an ability to be a Hero.
No you need to be a badas$ like HRG
vonus
Nov 2 2007, 07:31 AM
thats no power imo, there is only one name to call it and its "l33t Sk1llz" j/k
Keltor
Nov 2 2007, 08:02 AM
QUOTE(Triton @ Nov 1 2007, 01:09 AM)

QUOTE
QUOTE(perfectly-messy @ Oct 30 2007, 11:24 PM)
Giving Noah a power is killing his character...i mean they already made Mohinder extraordinary, now why Noah? He doesn't need to have a power to be special
Wait, Mohinder is extraordinary? In what way? Yeah, we haven't addressed this post. As far as I know, Mohinder is only special in the respect that his blood carries the antigen to the virus that's affecting those with powers. This sort of lumps him in with them, along with the fact that apparently his elder sister also had potential for powers but died before the manifested, though his blood could have saved her. That indicates that he's a member of the special's gene pool, but with one of the least apparent abilities yet.
/discuss
Atheshar
Nov 2 2007, 08:29 AM
QUOTE(Keltor @ Nov 2 2007, 08:02 AM)

As far as I know, Mohinder is only special in the respect that his blood carries the antigen to the virus that's affecting those with powers. This sort of lumps him in with them, along with the fact that apparently his elder sister also had potential for powers but died before the manifested, though his blood could have saved her. That indicates that he's a member of the special's gene pool, but with one of the least apparent abilities yet.
You bring up an interesting point. I will put myself on the record for saying that Mohinder's "blood-cure" ability has nothing whatsoever to do with his having a power. Specific antibodies are coded for in B cells in the immune system - and this coding takes place
after the child has been conceived. His immunity to the virus isn't something that he can pass on to his kids genetically, in the way that a power is passed on. (Go go biology class.) So I wouldn't classify it as a power of any sort, even if it has a very real impact on other people with powers. He is "biologically extraordinary," but not in that he has a power of any sort.
However his sister did have the potential for powers... which means that he's "a member of the specials' gene pool" like you said, something that we have no evidence for in Noah's case. So I'd find it more likely that he has a power than that Noah has one, but until and unless we know exactly how powers are passed on, we really can't say more than that.
bignas1234
Nov 2 2007, 08:36 AM
haha, everyone seems to be coming to terms that HRG is a normal person and so is Mohinder
and mr.muggles is just a normal dog (no superdog)

its just that HRG is very skilled with his languages(very human)
and mohinders blood has some kind of special antigen that can cure the virus(human)
Keltor
Nov 2 2007, 10:09 AM
I have never had any misapprehension whatsoever that Noah had any paranormal abilities.
He was recruited by The Company and obviously (to me, at least) trained by The Company. Trained very well and in a variety of disciplines.
It seems apparent that Kaito was a high muckymuck in The Company, and there are some other subtle indications that The Company has some deep roots in Japan, so it would only seem reasonable that Japanese language would be one of the arts in which agents would be trained.
Furthermore, since we now know that Noah was trained by the Ukranian, that language mastery is no surprise either. The skill of 'thinking' in Japanese that Noah displayed in season 1 is little surprise to me, having learned early on that true mastery of a language is the ability to think in that language, rather than think in English (or whatever native toungue) and translate before it becomes spoken. I do expect that it was rather an exercise for Noah to purposely think in Japanese though...something he had to work at more than just a little.
I also imagine that the language training was enforced by The Company to such depths in an individual agent, that thinking in said language was even the real goal. The reasoning behind this is that it would be a necessary security measure. Surely, in all the long history (at least 350 years that we know of, having some of them chronicled) of specials, there have been other specials with mental powers of this nature. The Company would at least have had some prior experience with mentalists, and would have worked out some way of proofing against them. It's only reasonable.
bignas1234
Nov 2 2007, 10:16 AM
QUOTE(Keltor @ Nov 2 2007, 10:09 AM)

I have never had any misapprehension whatsoever that Noah had any paranormal abilities.
He was recruited by The Company and obviously (to me, at least) trained by The Company. Trained very well and in a variety of disciplines.
It seems apparent that Kaito was a high muckymuck in The Company, and there are some other subtle indications that The Company has some deep roots in Japan, so it would only seem reasonable that Japanese language would be one of the arts in which agents would be trained.
Furthermore, since we now know that Noah was trained by the Ukranian, that language mastery is no surprise either. The skill of 'thinking' in Japanese that Noah displayed in season 1 is little surprise to me, having learned early on that true mastery of a language is the ability to think in that language, rather than think in English (or whatever native toungue) and translate before it becomes spoken. I do expect that it was rather an exercise for Noah to purposely think in Japanese though...something he had to work at more than just a little.
I also imagine that the language training was enforced by The Company to such depths in an individual agent, that thinking in said language was even the real goal. The reasoning behind this is that it would be a necessary security measure. Surely, in all the long history (at least 350 years that we know of, having some of them chronicled) of specials, there have been other specials with mental powers of this nature. The Company would at least have had some prior experience with mentalists, and would have worked out some way of proofing against them. It's only reasonable.
very clever thinking,
so ur saying the company trained him how to be on the defensive. like if they find a hero who can read minds (like maury could) e.g. Matt, who might try to read his mind then think in a language they can't understand
shanniee
Nov 2 2007, 02:04 PM
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Nov 2 2007, 07:16 PM)

very clever thinking,
so ur saying the company trained him how to be on the defensive. like if they find a hero who can read minds (like maury could) e.g. Matt, who might try to read his mind then think in a language they can't understand
Yes thats what he is saying. The Company is at least 30 years old maybe more.
So in that time they have met alot of people with abilities, some of which are very dangerous like Adam.
So they made countermeasures that they wont be cracked up so easily. Hence HRG thinking in Japanese, Speaking in Japanese and Russian and maybe even more....
I guess this is standard protocol from the Company from the people without abilities to have some sort of defence whereas those with abilities can use their abilities to help themselves.
maxxann
Nov 4 2007, 02:24 AM
QUOTE(shanniee @ Nov 3 2007, 06:04 AM)

Yes thats what he is saying. The Company is at least 30 years old maybe more.
So in that time they have met alot of people with abilities, some of which are very dangerous like Adam.
So they made countermeasures that they wont be cracked up so easily. Hence HRG thinking in Japanese, Speaking in Japanese and Russian and maybe even more....
I guess this is standard protocol from the Company from the people without abilities to have some sort of defence whereas those with abilities can use their abilities to help themselves.
You all have clever points. But don't you guys think that hiring a " normal" person, training them per se, would be a good defense against a powerful being? I mean, the company knows that they're dealing with people gifted with power. Don't you think that would only mean hiring people who can level up with these power guys? I mean, sure, they trained Noah, but he's normal. meant, one shot, one body slam and he's all gone. There goes the defense. So I think Noah has an ability, not like so powerful but still, he has one. After all, how can a company with powerless people go against bad powerful people?
I mean, this series is after all about power... the muggles (normal people) are like, the sidelines. Like for example, the Harry Potter series... it all evolves in wizard and witchcraft, with real people in the sidelines, and still it was interesting... but then it's just my opinion though.
shanniee
Nov 4 2007, 03:17 AM
QUOTE(maxxann @ Nov 4 2007, 11:24 AM)

You all have clever points. But don't you guys think that hiring a " normal" person, training them per se, would be a good defense against a powerful being? I mean, the company knows that they're dealing with people gifted with power. Don't you think that would only mean hiring people who can level up with these power guys? I mean, sure, they trained Noah, but he's normal. meant, one shot, one body slam and he's all gone. There goes the defense. So I think Noah has an ability, not like so powerful but still, he has one. After all, how can a company with powerless people go against bad powerful people?
I mean, this series is after all about power... the muggles (normal people) are like, the sidelines. Like for example, the Harry Potter series... it all evolves in wizard and witchcraft, with real people in the sidelines, and still it was interesting... but then it's just my opinion though.
Well what if they meet for example another person with the same abilities as the Haitian?
You wont have any powers to use against him then... Hence the training for such cases for normal people and also to keep the balance in the team. 2 Powered people might raise quite a mood sometimes

Also possible for normal/powered person but less likely
maxxann
Nov 4 2007, 11:05 PM
QUOTE(shanniee @ Nov 4 2007, 07:17 PM)

Well what if they meet for example another person with the same abilities as the Haitian?
You wont have any powers to use against him then... Hence the training for such cases for normal people and also to keep the balance in the team. 2 Powered people might raise quite a mood sometimes

Also possible for normal/powered person but less likely

I just find it odd that a normal person with training and all can compete against a powerful being. But if Noah is indeed normal, he's still got power.... Knowledge...
shanniee
Nov 5 2007, 02:10 AM
QUOTE(maxxann @ Nov 5 2007, 08:05 AM)

I just find it odd that a normal person with training and all can compete against a powerful being. But if Noah is indeed normal, he's still got power.... Knowledge...

What could a person with abilities do if his powers cant function... That is one of the reasons a person without powers but with training is assigned as a partner to a person with ability.
-sparky-
Nov 5 2007, 02:26 AM
Wouldn't it be a *real* twist if the greatest Hero of all turns out to be the one person without powers...
Mohinder...
The person with the antidote to the virus that would wipe out 93% of the popultion of the world...
It *could* happen!
shanniee
Nov 5 2007, 02:38 AM
QUOTE(-sparky- @ Nov 5 2007, 11:26 AM)

Wouldn't it be a *real* twist if the greatest Hero of all turns out to be the one person without powers...
Mohinder...
The person with the antidote to the virus that would wipe out 93% of the popultion of the world...
It *could* happen!
could possibly happen but im not sure if this will happen
Archis
Nov 5 2007, 07:59 AM
QUOTE(sparky)
Wouldn't it be a *real* twist if the greatest Hero of all turns out to be the one person without powers...
Mohinder...
The person with the antidote to the virus that would wipe out 93% of the popultion of the world...
It *could* happen!
Yep, a definate twist. But i dont see how Mohinder cuold be the one to blame. Well unless he went all evil, which i dont see happenning either.
shanniee
Nov 5 2007, 11:39 AM
QUOTE(Archis @ Nov 5 2007, 04:59 PM)

Yep, a definate twist. But i dont see how Mohinder cuold be the one to blame. Well unless he went all evil, which i dont see happenning either.
Unless he's forced !
misshonest20
Nov 5 2007, 01:09 PM
I don't think that Noah as an ability.
In the epsiode, season one's "company man", when Noah was being offically interviewed for a job at the "Paper Factory" it was stated that he would work with "one of them" meaning that he did not possess an ability. Unless he was hiding an ability to protect himself, it seems unlikely that he would have hid an ability from Claire. He would have wanted to share that with her, once she became aware of his intentions of protecting her.
Also, Matt Parkman would have/might have heard something from Noah that reveals him having an ability during all the time spent together trying to take out the "location device".
I agree with other posters that Noah's incredible variety of languages is simply from excellent training from "The Company".
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