Drew
Nov 1 2007, 11:50 AM
I was on the internet and i came across this. i hope shes okay
Hayden Panettiere - Yahoo UK!
minara
Nov 1 2007, 01:20 PM
I think what happened to the dolphins is more tragic than what happened to Hayden.
I think it's ridiculous that thousands of beautiful and wild animals are slaughtered needlessly all over the world every year. It makes no sense and there is no feasible reason for it.
I am proud of Hayden for standing up for what she believes in, even if it put her own life in danger.
bignas1234
Nov 1 2007, 04:26 PM
Good on her sumone shud stop those fisherman
shanniee
Nov 2 2007, 01:51 AM
Never thought Hayden would do something like that. It's good that she stands for her opinion and to help others

She's not a Hero just inside the studio

I have so more respect for her doing this

I cant even think of those dolphins
Lenatalia
Nov 2 2007, 05:16 AM
There's nothing natural about idiots killing dolphins like that. Dolphins deserve to live more than those people do.
Maybe I don't want to help the homeless. Maybe many of them are in that position through their own fault and selfishness. All the dolphins did was swim by and get along without bothering any humans.
Michael Lessard
Nov 5 2007, 06:45 PM
It doesn't matter if we agree or not, it's just really cool that she decided to be a Hero in real life.

I mean it did take a lot of courage.
If I may add my two cents though: what these fishermen do is actually mild in comparison to
how we, nice Westerners, treat animals without killing them or even less pain killers.
vikesh10
Nov 5 2007, 07:07 PM
QUOTE(qinrawks @ Nov 2 2007, 06:06 AM)

okay we have an ignorant person over here.
So many species have gone extinct in 4.5 billions of years , it's called survival of the fittest . Dolphins are stupid anyways .
minara
Nov 6 2007, 04:12 AM
Dolphins are nearly as intelligent as most humans.
Of course, there are black sheep in every race, as plainly evidenced by your ignorance.
Survival of the fittest is supposed to apply to the natural course of things, not the mass extinction of a species by another species who is overpowering them. The dolphin was biologically not meant to fight against a human. They are meant to fight sharks and other ocean predators. It's not really the same thing when their main predator have guns, nets and harpoons.
Michael Lessard
Nov 6 2007, 09:18 AM
QUOTE(minara @ Nov 6 2007, 07:12 AM)

... Survival of the fittest is supposed to apply to the natural course of things, not the mass extinction of a species by another species who is overpowering them. The dolphin was biologically not meant to fight against a human. They are meant to fight sharks and other ocean predators. It's not really the same thing when their main predator have guns, nets and harpoons.
Thank you Minara. I'd like to add that we, as an intelligent and dominant species, should consider that we have the duty to control ourselves: for example we have all the technology necessary to avoid torturing to death the animals we eat. If we only let our predator and violent instincts drive us, we will destroy Earth's ecology and will have ultimately shown ourselves to be bloody idiots.
If Dolphins, a relatively evolved creature, is on the verge of extinction, Hayden Panettiere was right to intervene. If governments helped the fishermen, she and other activists wouldn't have to do such radical actions.
Cheers,
vikesh10
Nov 7 2007, 06:31 AM
QUOTE(Michael Lessard @ Nov 6 2007, 09:18 AM)

Thank you Minara. I'd like to add that we, as an intelligent and dominant species, should consider that we have the duty to control ourselves: for example we have all the technology necessary to avoid torturing to death the animals we eat. If we only let our predator and violent instincts drive us, we will destroy Earth's ecology and will have ultimately shown ourselves to be bloody idiots.
If Dolphins, a relatively evolved creature, is on the verge of extinction, Hayden Panettiere was right to intervene. If governments helped the fishermen, she and other activists wouldn't have to do such radical actions.
Cheers,
To avoid torturing to death the animals?? I think they don't torture them , they chop the head , straight off , no pain . What are you implying by torture , it's not like i rough up my chicken before eating it .
Michael Lessard
Nov 7 2007, 05:54 PM
QUOTE(vikesh10 @ Nov 7 2007, 09:31 AM)

To avoid torturing to death the animals?? I think they don't torture them , they chop the head , straight off , no pain . What are you implying by torture , it's not like i rough up my chicken before eating it .
I'm not talking about you, the consumer. I'm talking about how "we" (Westerners) treat animals in industrial farms (no comment, check for yourself), how "we" transport them (i.e.: many die from horrible wounds on the way) and others are skinned alive and so on. Of course, normal farms (the few that somehow survive today's economy) probably don't mistreat so horribly. Anyways, just check the video I suggested above or whatever source you wish,
or you can forget it.
After all, the subject here is Panettiere's courage and passion. My words here are useless: hopefully Panettiere next action will discuss how our own food animals are "treated".
Cheers,
Mic
Melissa78
Nov 7 2007, 07:17 PM
I think that is sick....Maybe the hunter should be locked up and killed and see how they like it...I swam with Dolphins last year in Bermuda and the dolphins were very sweet and cute....They made us kiss them too....My first kiss from a dolphin LOl....
Raekon
Nov 7 2007, 11:23 PM
You ever saw how long it takes to chop the head of such a big creature like a Dolphin
vikesh?
I saw it once on a shark in a documentary and it takes VERY long in my opinion.
This is torture! On a sidenote, I hate it when people justify the death of others or animals by saying it's a "cultural tradition" in their country.
misshonest20
Nov 9 2007, 05:14 PM
QUOTE(vikesh10 @ Nov 5 2007, 07:07 PM)

So many species have gone extinct in 4.5 billions of years , it's called survival of the fittest . Dolphins are stupid anyways .
Just because animals have gone extinct does not mean we shouldn't try and save certain creatures if we can.
People murder other people, but we have police and prisions to punish them......we don't just let people fend for themselves. Just because you aren't feeling the pain, or loosing family to murder does not mean you shouldn't try to stop a murder. The people who beleive in protecting innocent animals are not always peave loving vegans, we are normal people who beleive in doing what you can to help/save innocent creatures.
What crap! How is that part of their culture??? They just use that excuse to get people off their backs. Maybe as Hayden gains power and fame, she will devote a good portion of herself and funds to help the cause. Whatever she does, I'm proud of here for trying to help, even though it was dangerous.
Kaenkun
Nov 12 2007, 11:36 AM
QUOTE(vikesh10 @ Nov 7 2007, 06:31 AM)

To avoid torturing to death the animals?? I think they don't torture them , they chop the head , straight off , no pain . What are you implying by torture , it's not like i rough up my chicken before eating it .
They would torture the dolphin/whale, due to this they feel pain which causes adrenaline, which to them for some god awful reason makes it taste better.Although they are killing themselves by eating it because it contains mercury and cadmium. They feel the pain too in the end.
misshonest20
Nov 13 2007, 05:00 PM
In case no-one has seen the clip yet..go to youtube.com and search under Hayden Panettiere.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3chsx1gpyjAThe clips explains the situation and show hayden and her friends out in the water, and being hit with the ship-hook. it also shows the bloody water and then finally, Hayden on her knees balwing her eyes out. Its really intense, but interesting.
IWatchHeroes
Nov 13 2007, 07:40 PM
QUOTE(Raekon @ Nov 7 2007, 11:23 PM)

You ever saw how long it takes to chop the head of such a big creature like a Dolphin
vikesh?
I saw it once on a shark in a documentary and it takes VERY long in my opinion.
This is torture! On a sidenote, I hate it when people justify the death of others or animals by saying it's a "cultural tradition" in their country.

just because it's a tradition doesn't mean they should kill poor dolphins.
It's good that Hayden stood up for them.
DoctorHeroes
Nov 17 2007, 09:54 AM
vikesh10
Nov 21 2007, 03:17 AM
I got banned cause some moderator is a Dolphin lover , i'm not posting on this subject anymore . Just know that dolphins are stupid , i'd rather play with my dog . And it's cool i guess that Hayden cares about dolphins and what not , but that time could be very well be spent on something way more useful then saving a bunch of fishes that are going to die regardless of what she or anyone else does . Dolphin = Food . ( not that i personally eat dolphins , but i heard whale meat is the best )
minara
Nov 21 2007, 04:34 AM
QUOTE(vikesh10 @ Nov 21 2007, 06:17 AM)

I got banned cause some moderator is a Dolphin lover , i'm not posting on this subject anymore . Just know that dolphins are stupid , i'd rather play with my dog . And it's cool i guess that Hayden cares about dolphins and what not , but that time could be very well be spent on something way more useful then saving a bunch of fishes that are going to die regardless of what she or anyone else does . Dolphin = Food . ( not that i personally eat dolphins , but i heard whale meat is the best )
*sigh*
For someone who wasn't planning on saying anymore, you sure said a lot.
Jester77
Nov 21 2007, 08:42 PM
First off I think that the killing of dolphins is cruel and I could never imagine wanting to even eat a dolphin but I think it should be known that killing of these dolphins isn't for fun and it's not just a part of their culture for those fisherman it's their only means of living. It's an extremely difficult situation because the economy in Japan is bad enough that this fisherman have no choice even if they wanted to they can't afford to give up the slaughter of these animals. Of course others will argue that the hamburgers we eat and the turkey that will be served tomorrow were once living breathing animals that were also slaughtered. Of course then others will respond that dolphins are more intelligent (which in fact they are) so I guess that every person needs to form their own opinions and respect the opinions of others. I didn't like seeing those bloody waters and personally would love for the slaughter to stop but for that to happen their needs to stop being a market for dolphin meat and for the economy to be strong enough so that those fisherman can find some other ways of supporting themselves.
Aerdna
Nov 21 2007, 08:49 PM
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Nov 21 2007, 11:42 PM)

First off I think that the killing of dolphins is cruel and I could never imagine wanting to even eat a dolphin but I think it should be known that killing of these dolphins isn't for fun and it's not just a part of their culture for those fisherman it's their only means of living. It's an extremely difficult situation because the economy in Japan is bad enough that this fisherman have no choice even if they wanted to they can't afford to give up the slaughter of these animals. Of course others will argue that the hamburgers we eat and the turkey that will be served tomorrow were once living breathing animals that were also slaughtered. Of course then others will respond that dolphins are more intelligent (which in fact they are) so I guess that every person needs to form their own opinions and respect the opinions of others. I didn't like seeing those bloody waters and personally would love for the slaughter to stop but for that to happen their needs to stop being a market for dolphin meat and for the economy to be strong enough so that those fisherman can find some other ways of supporting themselves.
I completely agree. Couldn't have said it better
Kaenkun
Nov 21 2007, 09:01 PM
I Agree as well, but the fact of the matter is, some of the Whales/Dolphins in those nets are endangered species and protected by International Law, but yet nothing is being done, If someone (god forbid) harmed a Panda there would be hell to pay, who's to say its any different with Dolphins/Whales?
Auxii
Nov 22 2007, 05:27 PM
QUOTE
I Agree as well, but the fact of the matter is, some of the Whales/Dolphins in those nets are endangered species and protected by International Law, but yet nothing is being done, If someone (god forbid) harmed a Panda there would be hell to pay, who's to say its any different with Dolphins/Whales?
I agree! Seriously.
Something needs to be done about it! It isn't about culture! They aren't just fish. Myself, coming from New Zealand, Dolphins/Whales are looked upon as amazing creatures that we like to look after! Not something we kill and eat!
It is sick.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3chsx1gpyjA -
Red Eye on the Sky
Mar 12 2008, 10:53 PM
oh well... hooray for hayden!
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