I realize that this is talked about in pieces all of the time...but I wanted to give a few of my ideas...and I'd like to hear some agreements or disagreements or such.

Now, some of these are based on me believing that Maury Parkman is the one killing everybody, but I'll get to that later.

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Linderman - Healing things (not himself though).

Maury Parkman - Telepathy (strong)

Charles Devereaux - Precognitive dreaming

Bob - Metals into gold? Possibly changing one substance into another.

Adam Monroe? - Possibly healing himself.

Kaito Nakamura - Creating full clones of himself at will, making them disappear at will.

Angela Petrelli - Telekinesis

Arthur Petrelli - No idea...

4 Unknowns...???


REASONING -

Linderman - duh.

Maury - we've seen it in action against Matt, Nathan, and Molly.

Charles - the first power peter displayed was the ability to dream about the future. However, I can't remember if Peter had met Charles yet in the "6 months ago" episode. If he hadn't, then I believe that the precognitive dreaming power would have been Arthur Petrelli's, not Devereaux's. However...the final or next to last episode of Genesis had Charles Devereaux having a conversation with Peter on Peter's roof in an event that he never witnessed before. Sooooo....peter actually may have either dreamed it, and Devereaux had done the same so that they could hold conversation since devereaux predicted each line; Ooooor Peter actually used Hiro's power plus Claude's power to travel back in time to when Devereaux was alive but which would Still mean that Devereaux dreamed that peter was there, and so he held real conversation with him. ....whew.

Bob - metals into gold or substances into other substances. We've seen the spoon go gold.

Adam Monroe - I read a convincing argument that Adam Monroe is actually the Takezo Kensei from the past. So, I think he's a 400 year old hero. Whitebeard's flag symbols appear in Adam Monroe's apartment when Peter goes there in Montreal.

now HERE's the part where it all depends on whether or not Maury is the one killing people. Since Matt found Bob's death picture in his apartment, I'd say there's a good case for it. But Matt and Nathan probably would have killed each other had it not been for Matt breaking the telepathic world surrounding them. Also, Maury acts evil.

Kaito Nakamura - Cloning himself. Ando sees someone kill Kaito. The person is in a shroud. They LOOKED small, but then so does Kaito, to an extent. Either way, he could have cloned someone else. The person who killed him is not there when Ando looks over. So, the person could have been a clone conjured by Kaito who disappeared when Kaito died. But why would he kill himself? Maury. Maury is a powerful, nightmarish telepathic who can get people to go into their own minds and essentially start killing themselves without control over it. The only person who HAS shown control is Matt, in one, but possibly two instances. So, Maury may have gotten into Kaito's head, gotten him to clone someone and gotten Kaito to have his own clown attack him. Additionally, Kaito was exceptionally good at swordplay. And how could one be so good without a ton of people knowing about it or being aware? If you could clone yourself to fight, or clone others, you would have an infinite number of bodies to fight. Soo.....

Angela Petrelli - I'm saying this for a few reasons. The first is that it's one of Peter's unexplained powers (as far as I know). He never knew the telekinetic guy six months ago. Never met him. He had telekinesis before he met Sylar (but whose learned abilities I don't think he can take anyway, only his ability to learn), but it's never explained how he got it. Another reason I think Angela would be that person is that to start off the first season she steals a pair of socks "to feel alive again." How did she steal them? Just stick them in her purse? It's a small object. It was never explained how she stole them. It's more than possible that, to feel alive, she lifted them with her mind and brought them to her, and a store clerk witnessed her having it outside of the store and caught her (but didn't see her take them). My third reason is the scene in the police station where she is found with tons of cuts all over her face. During her struggle, the power went out, and then came back on. A telekinetic would more than be able to attack oneself with invisible blades and pull a power plug momentarily. Maury may have been lurking around in her mind, had her close the door, shut off the power, and cut up her face. What he wouldn't suspect though is that her son would be there and have an ability even he did not know about to shut off that link (if indeed his own telepathic ability is evolving). This could be why Angela did not die within the Kaito proposed 24 hour deadline.

And about Arthur....he "killed himself." Without Ando there, Kaito would have looked like a suicide, and without anybody in the room with Angela if she died, she would have seemed as such as well. So, it is possible in some way, at least, that if Arthur killed himself with his power, it would, yes, seem like a suicide.

But those are my thoughts.

I don't see Kensei/Adam in the picture of the 12, I don't think he wasn't part of the 12, I think he was more the first subject to be bagged and tagged by the company

Interesting theory about Maury turning peoples powers against them. The only problem is, Maury really does not strike me as a type who id THAT evil. I could be wrong. No doubt he is a criminal, and selfish/opportunistic etc... But I don't think that pure evil.

Plus, lets face it, he's kind of lame. Let me put it this way, if Maury turns out to be this seasons villain, then next seasons villian might be the Grinch.

lol...true...and i didn't think he was a bad guy...just a guy trying to defend himself....until he said sweet dreams as he walked out and i saw that look of pure and unadulterated evil on his face. not even hatred or contempt...since those imply a relationship of some kind which could be seen as good even if with ill will....but a look of pleasure.



well...here's another out-there theory as well...

but i think that the blurry guy standing next to angela is Adam Monroe/Takezo Kensei. we all assume it's arthur petrelli, but we've never seen him before. we just assume that's who it is because of placement. i think arthur petrelli is the italian-looking guy in the lower row, 2nd from the right. an italian would actually have the name petrelli. who says the photo has to be accurate to knowledge about current marriages? (rhetorical question, not being a jerk)

of course, the man with the glasses is a bit aged. since maury parkman's power is a lot stronger at his age than matt's is, it's possible that powers come into full maturity later. Adam's power may be stronger than Claire's if his has evolved to the point where it can sustain brain damage, for instance. Additionally, the ability to keep from aging within the ability may not come to maturity until later in life, say around age 50, when the hair has had plenty of time to turn grey (i don't think the color gray in hair is necessarily an INjury...though I could be wrong.).

Also, it would seem strange to blur a guy's face out whose face had no significance. Arthur is dead. What he looks like is of no consequence. Takezo Kensei, however, and the appearance of his face, COULD be exceptionally significant. i think this is the higher likelihood if not just because of dramatic effect.

Peter got telekinesis from sylar not from her mother

I think adam/takezo is part of the 12, is arthur petrelli.

i don't think powers can be taken from sylar like that. he learns the powers through seeing how they work, not through genetic code. we've never seen peter exhibit any power besides telekinesis that sylar had when he met him.

again, though, i may be wrong.

i need to go all the way back through season 1 with a fine-tooth comb.

well thats another posibility, but i dont think angelas power is telekinesis she would defend herself against the killer when she was in that room at the police or maybe she has the power and all this was simulating and she is the killer

well i think it's like i said in the big post...that maury is telepathically manipulating people into using their powers to kill themselves...but matt was there, and when he got agitated, the madness stopped, just like when he stopped the madness when he and nathan were fighting each other.

He sees how they works and then bonds them to his genetic code. In "Fallout", Mr. Bennet mentions that Sylar's powers are a product of using foreign DNA to alter his own. He indeed alters his own DNA. He isn't just mimicking their powers.

You definitely have some wild theories...Adam Monroe IS Kesei, there's no question about that.

As far as Kaito and Angela's powers...im gonna have to disagree on those as well. The way this show is, I think it makes people think anything is possible, but the writers still need to stay within a certain realm of realisticness. I think some of your ideas are just too far fetched

Nathan points at the blurry man next to Angela in the photo and says 'There's my father', so I don't think it's the Italian looking person in the bottom.

nice theory, plausable
but i think peter got his telekenesis from syler when he moved the lockers with his mind at homecomming
i like the whole maury being the killer, but im pretty sure its tekezo kensei killing them all for betraying him (don't kno how they betrayed him) and definately kaito as he put kensei in jail for 30yrs

well sh*t.

very much true, so this scraps the italian guy being arthur petrelli
i wonder if tekezo kensei is really apart of the 12? maybe he is the 13th person ?

maybe linderman could also heal himself, but it just didnt show.

Then why hasnt he been on the screen at least 1 or something ?
I say hes plain dead

Well, someone has to take the photo.

lol... youre absolutely right.

though I don't think Mama Petrelli's power is telekinesis. she has not shown any abilities yet, as far as I can see. Peter has not manifested abilities until he learned he could fly. That was the start, even Angela said Peter was weak compared to nathan.

I don't also think it's Maury who's killing them. why would he sign his own picture with the helix? Too throw them off track? That's a really low blow, isn't it? Whoever's killing them is doing it straightforward and doesn't get caught because he's powerful. Maury's like a typical con man.

well that's just me though.

A con man yes, Angela Petrelli's power is of yet unknown

And yes someone has to take the photo, but dont you think that it's too low for his standards

Linderman is dead, he got his brain mashed to a pulp

A twist to bring Linderman back from the dead would have to be pretty far fetched. Then again, some pretty strange things happen on this show.

Agreed, it would be pretty far fetched and pretty lame to bring Linderman back at this time. If they did it in episode 2 then it would be okay, but further ... No they should let Linderman be dead period.

Angela's powers could be telpathy and premonitions (Peter could have gotten his 3d preominitions from her).

You think telepathy because she talked with Matt through her mind? It's because she knew that Matt had mind reading. So thats off.
Premonition could be the case but doesnt explain everything... If she had premonition why didnt she fled away from the police department when she was attacked for example... Why couldn't she save Peter then? Or Kaito for that matter...
It is doubtfull about premonition... but still possible.

Yes, but we still don't know who exactly the killer is, and what his ability is. So that would mean that even if Angela Petrelli has an ability, the killers ability could have blocked it or is much stronger (like maury parkman's ability).

Interesting theory, but I have to disagree with telekinesis (and agree with the quoted poster). Peter got telekinesis from Sylar, and it kicked in the first time they met, when he deflected the locker doors.

Yea but what about when she was with Kaito at the Deveaux rooftop. The killer did it at both moments ?

the show had a way of presenting a lot of possibilities. If it's kensei who threw Kaito off the roof, my sister said it could be that Kensei developed a faster way of regenerating / recuperating that Ando saw no one with Kaito on the ground. Faster than Claire can.

My quote was about the killer attacking Mrs. Petrelli and the poster said that he was able to block Mrs. Petrelli's power. I simply asked about the event at the Deveaux rooftop with Kaito & Angela
I know Kensei is for sure the killer