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DCSimian
Ok, so watching one of the promos, they showed a new character that Peter is interacting with. I presume this is the invisible teacher we've heard so much about. Was he the one that said "How can you see me" or something to that affect? Or was it Peter?

If it was the other guy, his power kinda sucks. True, he can't be seen...but he can't be seen by anyone! Like...he doesn't have a choice in the matter. At least that's what it seems like. Or perhaps he can choose and is surprised when Peter does see him while he's invisible...


Hmmm...Thoughts on our mysterious translucent Yoda?
Jester77
The name of the invisible man is Claude and I'm guessing that the only reason that Peter can see Claude is because Peter is able to absorb his power. I don't know how that would make a difference but I'm fairly sure that would be why
slop27
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Jan 16 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]301[/snapback]
The name of the invisible man is Claude and I'm guessing that the only reason that Peter can see Claude is because Peter is able to absorb his power. I don't know how that would make a difference but I'm fairly sure that would be why


i think he might be a phase shifter like d.l but in a different way or maybe he can bend light and by the nature of his ability he needs to be able to see through this bending and that is why peter can see him because he absorbs the ability
Jester77
QUOTE(slop27 @ Jan 16 2007, 06:51 PM) [snapback]417[/snapback]
i think he might be a phase shifter like d.l but in a different way or maybe he can bend light and by the nature of his ability he needs to be able to see through this bending and that is why peter can see him because he absorbs the ability


Hmm interesting I like your bending light theory
Hero
CraigB, the former site moderator at 9thWonders, has an interview with Christopher Eccleston on his new unofficial Herosite.net (in a similar style as his K-site).

An excerpt of the interview is below:
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Now You See Him: HeroSite Talks With Christopher Eccleston
Interview by Craig Byrne
January 2007

The announcement that Christopher Eccleston would soon be appearing in a recurring role on Heroes was very exciting for fans across the world. The veteran of movies, television, and the stage plays an invisible man named Claude, and he will be making his first appearance on Heroes on the January 22 episode, "Godsend."

Mr. Eccleston was kind enough to take the time from shooting on Heroes' sixteenth episode to do an interview with HeroSite.net's Craig Byrne about his powerful new role. The interview follows:

HEROSITE.NET: You've had the ability to pick and choose some of the best roles. What was it that attracted you to Heroes?

CHRISTOPHER ECCLESTON: What attracted me to Heroes is that they came in for me, and I appreciated that. We talked about two roles, and it was Claude that I decided on, the second role.

HS: Was there something in particular that made you choose Claude?

CE: Well, there's a possibility that we'll be giving away plot points, but what I will say is that the first role was a villain, and I didn't want to play a villain. I think that it's somewhat of a cliche for European actors to play villains in American culture, and I didn't want to be part of that...
So maybe he was considered for the role of Sylar... smile.gif
slop27
but now i'm wondering if he isn't looking through the visible light spectrum the which part of the electro magnetic spectrum is he seeing, cause some of those frequencies aren't exaclty as common as the spectra we see?
Tazorak
Just like Future Hiro and Peter in the train. Everyone else was frozen in time around them accept for peter, cause he can absorb the powers. But some may say Hiro chose peter not to be frozen, then why doesnt he stopped Ando from being frozen those couple of times? cause he can't. so thats the only reason peter could talk to future hiro and the only reason he can see Claude.
DCSimian
Hmmm. Good points. If Claude is permanently invisible and not by choice, it'll be interesting to see what happens when Peter suddenly vanishes out of view when he's near Claude. More than likely though, he can go invisible by choice...

We'll see what happens in 3 days!
Jester77
Hmm interesting interview and so we know now that Claude will be on the show until at least episode 16
slop27
back to claude it would be interesting if his ability was a light bending field because if it was then the writers might make it so he could leave a temporary field around something and hide it from some one later on in the series cause if it was it would be even better to do it to a bad guy who couldn't see out of it and just beat him while he is stumbling around essentaily blind. but hey that is just my thoughts.
Jester77
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Hmmm. Good points. If Claude is permanently invisible and not by choice, it'll be interesting to see what happens when Peter suddenly vanishes out of view when he's near Claude. More than likely though, he can go invisible by choice...


I doubt that Claude would be permenantly invisible and since he becomes Peter's "mentor" I'm pretty sure that he has control over his power
Hero in Waiting
In the old Star Trek series, there was one episode where they came upon a race that lived at a different speed I guess, because they lived at a different speed, the crew was un able to see them. They gave some of the crew a drug that allowed them to be at the same speed and they were then visible. This could be were they are going as well, but the bending light theory is probably closer.
Tazorak
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Jan 19 2007, 10:21 PM) [snapback]1389[/snapback]
This is sort of off topic but I can't help but respond. Future Hiro probably did make sure that Peter remained unfrozen because he came to give him a message. Present Hiro does not have the same control over his power as his future self does so though he is unable to keep certain individuals unfrozen it is very possible that he will learn to do so in the future


If he chose then why didn't he chose Mohinder also, so Mohinder could help also???
DCSimian
QUOTE(Tazorak @ Jan 22 2007, 12:43 PM) [snapback]1566[/snapback]
If he chose then why didn't he chose Mohinder also, so Mohinder could help also???


Off topic, but Peter was the only one who stayed unfrozen b/c he probably 'borrowed' Future Hiro's ability when that incident occurred.

Back to Claude, I was flipping through channels and caught 'Gone in 60 Seconds'. Christopher Eccleston was listed in the cast so I sat through it to see what he was like...seemed like he overplayed his part a bit, but then again, it was a Bruckheimer film... dry.gif

Should be interesting in that he has that crazy intensity ala Ralph Fiennes (watch Red Dragon or The Goblet of Fire).

Wikipedia describes Claude as having the ability to become invisible...so we'll see...or will we? tongue.gif
Hero in Waiting
QUOTE(DCSimian @ Jan 22 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]1570[/snapback]
Wikipedia describes Claude as having the ability to become invisible...so we'll see...or will we? tongue.gif


Funny.... laugh.gif tongue.gif
DCSimian
I thought his take on stage acting and screen acting was rather interesting...never thought of it that way...
myndraepp

i'm upset i missed the last few episodes. i'll catch up on them when the dvd comes out, but a website that has them would be good. any one know where i can find them online? anyway

if claude were permanently invisible it would make no sense for him to take money and a cell phone. and the bending light theory makes sense because those objects he takes would likely draw some attention.

that's what i think anyway.
Jester77
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i'm upset i missed the last few episodes. i'll catch up on them when the dvd comes out, but a website that has them would be good. any one know where i can find them online? anyway
Go to nbc.com to watch the episodes online or you can download them on this site, don't wait till the dvd comes out, that'll be months and you'll be missing out. If you want youtube links or something I could probably find those for you.

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Off topic, but Peter was the only one who stayed unfrozen b/c he probably 'borrowed' Future Hiro's ability when that incident occurred.


Okay off topic again but Future Hiro had a message for Peter and for probably Peter alone since it was Peter who would have to save the cheerleader, there was probably a reason why Mohinder could not hear the message at that time, why that is I'm not sure
Hero in Waiting


Based on Claude's introduction...I'm split on him. He is using his abilities for personal gain. That's a no no in the super hero world... dry.gif

The jury is still out on him. cool.gif




Jester77
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Based on Claude's introduction...I'm split on him. He is using his abilities for personal gain. That's a no no in the super hero world...

The jury is still out on him.


Well we barely saw Claude in the last episode and that was barely an introduction, I'm sure there's a reason why he's so bitter and acts the way he does and maybe Peter will be able to soften him up a bit
heromaxine
Claude did tell Peter that he wasn't going to let him kill everyone since Peter was so sure about that pending explosion and all. So he must have a hero's bone in his invisibile body after all.

I do agree that he probably has the choice of when to be invisible and visible. In the preview, he seem to have an apartment (or was it someone else's?) so he was probably visible when he rented it. Since we have heard that Claude is suppose to have had his power for several years and has gained control of it and learned to live with it. I got the impression that he really wasn't being mean about the stealing but rather mischevious about it, having a bit of fun.

Also we were certainly left with the impression that Claude has possible taught "other" heroes how to control and learn to live with their powers. Now that would have to be a good guy/hero thing. But interestingly, he seemed genuienly surprised that Peter could "see" him. Claude made the comment that "No one ever sees me." I assume that he means that when he chooses to be invisible that no one else, even other heroes, has ever been able to see him. Which could certainly mean that he has never met another hero quite like Peter with the ability to absorb other hero powers. We could also assume that now Peter will also have the ability to become invisible and visible upon his choosing after Claude teaches him how.

I guess there are a lot of ways to think of to explain invisibility. I'm no physics scientist but I just think of it as simply a cloaking device like in Star Trek or like the Invisible Cape used in Harry Potter. I would think that once Claude has chosen to become invisible, that anything he touches or picks up becomes instantly invisible too. In the old invisible man shows with Claude Rains, he would wrap himself in a bandage around his head and put on clothes and a hat and gloves and he would be visible and then when he took those off he would be invisible. So he didn't have a choice to make his person/body to be invisible or not, it was always invisible. And things he touched didn't become invisible. But our heroes' power is much better, stronger and different than his. I don't know about the bending light theory but Einstein's Unified Field Theory was suppose to say that if you could combine the three powers: the power of gravity, manegtic power and electrical power and subject it to an object you could make the object become invisible. Now I don't know if this is true or not or even if that is what this theory actually says but I have heard this on the TV either on the History or the Science channel. So don't know if this could be what might be involved with our heroes but I am content to think of it as a cloaking device for now.
Jester77
I also believe that Claude can choose whether or not he is visible and when he touches or grabs something it becomes invisible as well, which would make the scene with him stealing objects make sense as well as allowing him to wear clothes and stay invisible. Claude also seems like he has mentored many others with powers and he probably has horror stories to tell but I think once he becomes acquainted with Peter the two of them will be able to work together in a progressive manner
slop27
what if one of the ones that claude taught before was sylar that would explain his extreme control over his power in such a little time cause it's been like five months and he can control which seems like quite a feet.
Jester77
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what if one of the ones that claude taught before was sylar that would explain his extreme control over his power in such a little time cause it's been like five months and he can control which seems like quite a feet.


I don't think that Claude and Sylar have ever actually met. The reason for Sylar's fast control is because of his original "power" where he knows and understands how thinkgs work
AceKicker
I'm almost 100% sure that Claude's power is bending the light around him and just not purely chameleon in nature because he is able to make his apparels and clothes dissappear as well. This will probably be interesting because that would mean that he has a area of effect for his abilities, so he can potentially camofloge a decent size object or area. . . . . perhaps an invisible car? This is similar's to nathans flying ability because when we saw nathan fly and break the sound barrier, going at such speed would damage normal human internal organs aswell as probably tear up his pants that he was wearing, so he probably he some kind of force field that he produces and an area of effect. However, what i don't understand is yeah Claude is invisible but does he speak in a different audio freq. that humans can't pick up on or something? Because Peter and him were like talking on the street pretty loudly almost arguing and no one noticed or didn't even find odd that voices were coming out of nowwhere but then when Claude help peter get away from mohinder and nathan he covers peter's month, if they were both in the "invisible phase" why does it matter, why did he need to cover peter's mouth?
DCSimian
QUOTE(AceKicker @ Feb 1 2007, 09:20 AM) [snapback]4087[/snapback]
However, what i don't understand is yeah Claude is invisible but does he speak in a different audio freq. that humans can't pick up on or something? Because Peter and him were like talking on the street pretty loudly almost arguing and no one noticed or didn't even find odd that voices were coming out of nowwhere but then when Claude help peter get away from mohinder and nathan he covers peter's month, if they were both in the "invisible phase" why does it matter, why did he need to cover peter's mouth?


That's a good point. I wasn't sure if others around them were picking up what they were saying or not. It certainly didn't seem like it. Then again, in NYC, I'd imagine that most people wouldn't give it a second thought since there are people everywhere. I'd imagine that they're still audible to everyone around them, hence why he covered up Peter's mouth.

Btw, I loved that scene wink.gif Claude's apparently encountered other empaths before Peter. He said something to the affect of "You're one of them" or "Another one". He's apparently accustomed to the idea of empathic powers as he seems willing to help Peter control his abilities.

As far as he and Sylar...it's unlikely they had a stddent/teacher relationship if they had met. Claude would probably be dead as I imagine that invisibility would be a useful ability for Sylar to have. If they have met, then Claude probably got away. Maybe that's why he's a bit paranoid?


Hero in Waiting


I don't believe he and Sylar worked together either....Sylar would certainly want to be invisible....and Claude still has his head....cool.gif
Jester77
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I don't believe he and Sylar worked together either....Sylar would certainly want to be invisible....and Claude still has his head....


Agreed I highly doubt that the two of them have ever met or worked together since Sylar doesn't seem to play well with others
Venomous Valdez
I'm very happy w/ the casting of Doctor Who in this role. He's such a great actor!
Tazorak
that was pretty cool how peter regenrated him self, but then he started to freak out and go all haywire, it was crazy!!! I thought it was cool when he got punched in the face to stop it.
Hero in Waiting

It's always good to see someone get their block knocked off....and that seemed like it was a reset button for him.

I think Claude is a little too off the cuff...he could have killed Peter...that wasn't cool.

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Jester77
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I think Claude is a little too off the cuff...he could have killed Peter...that wasn't cool.


Though Claude was pretty rough he was able to scare Peter into using his powers and if Peter died than that would have been one less thing for him to do
Hero in Waiting
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....if Peter died than that would have been one less thing for him to do


Ouch, that was rough, I wouldn't even have been that mean, after all, he's a main character.

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Jester77
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Ouch, that was rough, I wouldn't even have been that mean, after all, he's a main character.


Seems that Claude has learned to only look out for himself and was there something that HRG said about how he knew Claude or something? I can't seem to remember
slop27
HRG said soemthing like he was an old friend who he thought was dead so that makes me think that claude used to work for HRG like in training eden
Jester77
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HRG said soemthing like he was an old friend who he thought was dead so that makes me think that claude used to work for HRG like in training eden


Yeah it seems that Claude and HRG have a history though what it is or what happens has yet to be explained but they might have worked together and then Claude backed out and ran for it or something
slop27
but how was it that they thought he was dead because if he just disapeared they would of know he ran. maybe he also trained claires mom and he managed to leave before she went off
Jester77
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but how was it that they thought he was dead because if he just disapeared they would of know he ran.


He very well could have faked his death just like Claire's mom, Meredith faked hers
sylar
"claude rains" is not entirely origional. a character by the same name bashes a dude named lon chaney in the head with a cane in the movie the wolf man.

does anybody know about the origins of any other characters fromheroes?
Hero in Waiting
Claude Rains
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Birth name William Claude Rains
Born November 10, 1889 London, England, UK
Died May 30, 1967, age 77 Laconia, New Hampshire, USA
Claude Rains (November 10, 1889 – May 30, 1967) was a British, and later American, theatre and film actor, best known for his many roles in Hollywood films.

Biography
Rains was born William Claude Rains (known as 'Willie') in Camberwell, London on November 10, 1889. He grew up with, according to his daughter, "a very serious cockney accent and a speech impediment". His acting talents were recognized by Sir Herbert Beerbohm Tree, founder of The Royal Academy of Dramatic Art, and Tree paid for the elocution lessons that he needed to succeed as an actor. Later, Rains taught at the institution, working with John Gielgud and Laurence Olivier, among others.

Rains served in the First World War; he was involved in a gas attack that left him almost blind in one eye for the rest of his life. However, the war did aid his social advancement, and by its end he had risen from the rank of private to that of captain.

Having made his name in the theatre, Rains came late to film acting. His first screen test was a failure, but his voice won him the title role in James Whale's The Invisible Man (1933) when someone accidentally overheard his screen test being played in the next room. Rains later credited the director Michael Curtiz with teaching him the more understated requirements of film acting, or, "what not to do in front of a camera".

In 1939, Rains became a naturalized citizen of the United States. He married six times, the first five of which marriages ended in divorce: Isabel Jeans (1913 - 1915); Marie Hemingway (1920 - 1920); Beatriz Thomas (1924 - 8 April 1935); Frances Propper (9 April 1935 - 1956); Agi Jambor (4 November 1959 - 1960); and to Rosemary Clark Schrode (1960 - 31 December 1964) (her death). He acquired a 380-acre farm in Pennsylvania, and spent much of his time between takes reading up on agricultural techniques. He eventually sold the farm when his marriage to Frances Propper ended in 1956.


Claude Rains in Notorious.Following The Invisible Man, Universal Studios tried to typecast him in horror films, but he broke free with his Academy Award-nominated role as the conflicted corrupt senator in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939), and followed that with probably his most famous role, the French policeman Captain Renault in Casablanca (1942).

In 1945, Rains became the first actor to receive a million dollar salary for his role as Julius Caesar in Caesar and Cleopatra.

In 1951, Rains won a Tony Award for Best Performance by a Leading Actor in a Play for Darkness at Noon.

Onscreen, Rains remained a popular character actor in the '50s and '60s, continuing to appear in many films. Two of his more well-known later screen roles were in Lawrence of Arabia (1962), where he played Dryden, a cynical British diplomat, and The Greatest Story Ever Told (1965), where he was King Herod. The latter was his final film role.

Rains died from an internal haemorrhage, in Laconia, New Hampshire. He was 77 and is interred in the Red Hill Cemetery, Moultonborough, New Hampshire.

He has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, at 6400 Hollywood Boulevard. In 1975, both Rains, and his memorable role as the Invisible Man was referenced in the opening song to the cult film The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

He is also referenced in the television show Heroes, where the character Claude, who can turn himself invisible, refers to himself as "Claude Rains, the Invisible Man."

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Tim Kring
hmmmmmmmmmm...
sylar
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Claude Rains
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Birth name William Claude Rains
Born November 10, 1889 London, England, UK
Died May 30, 1967, age 77 Laconia, New Hampshire, USA
Claude Rains (November 10, 1889 – May 30, 1967) was a British, and later American, theatre and film actor, best known for his many roles in Hollywood films.

Biography
Rains was born William Claude Rains (known as 'Willie') in Camberwell, London on November 10, 1889. He grew up with, according to his daughter, "a very serious cockney accent and a speech impediment". His acting talents were recognized by Sir Herbert Beerbohm Tree, founder of The Royal Academy of Dramatic Art, and Tree paid for the elocution lessons that he needed to succeed as an actor. Later, Rains taught at the institution, working with John Gielgud and Laurence Olivier, among others.

Rains served in the First World War; he was involved in a gas attack that left him almost blind in one eye for the rest of his life. However, the war did aid his social advancement, and by its end he had risen from the rank of private to that of captain.

Having made his name in the theatre, Rains came late to film acting. His first screen test was a failure, but his voice won him the title role in James Whale's The Invisible Man (1933) when someone accidentally overheard his screen test being played in the next room. Rains later credited the director Michael Curtiz with teaching him the more understated requirements of film acting, or, "what not to do in front of a camera".

In 1939, Rains became a naturalized citizen of the United States. He married six times, the first five of which marriages ended in divorce: Isabel Jeans (1913 - 1915); Marie Hemingway (1920 - 1920); Beatriz Thomas (1924 - 8 April 1935); Frances Propper (9 April 1935 - 1956); Agi Jambor (4 November 1959 - 1960); and to Rosemary Clark Schrode (1960 - 31 December 1964) (her death). He acquired a 380-acre farm in Pennsylvania, and spent much of his time between takes reading up on agricultural techniques. He eventually sold the farm when his marriage to Frances Propper ended in 1956.


Claude Rains in Notorious.Following The Invisible Man, Universal Studios tried to typecast him in horror films, but he broke free with his Academy Award-nominated role as the conflicted corrupt senator in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939), and followed that with probably his most famous role, the French policeman Captain Renault in Casablanca (1942).

In 1945, Rains became the first actor to receive a million dollar salary for his role as Julius Caesar in Caesar and Cleopatra.

In 1951, Rains won a Tony Award for Best Performance by a Leading Actor in a Play for Darkness at Noon.

Onscreen, Rains remained a popular character actor in the '50s and '60s, continuing to appear in many films. Two of his more well-known later screen roles were in Lawrence of Arabia (1962), where he played Dryden, a cynical British diplomat, and The Greatest Story Ever Told (1965), where he was King Herod. The latter was his final film role.

Rains died from an internal haemorrhage, in Laconia, New Hampshire. He was 77 and is interred in the Red Hill Cemetery, Moultonborough, New Hampshire.

He has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, at 6400 Hollywood Boulevard. In 1975, both Rains, and his memorable role as the Invisible Man was referenced in the opening song to the cult film The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

He is also referenced in the television show Heroes, where the character Claude, who can turn himself invisible, refers to himself as "Claude Rains, the Invisible Man."

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i am sofa king wee todd ed. big thanks mate i had no idea!
Jester77
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He is also referenced in the television show Heroes, where the character Claude, who can turn himself invisible, refers to himself as "Claude Rains, the Invisible Man."


I love that they took the name of the actor who played the original Invisible man, quite brilliant on behalf of the writers
Red
QUOTE(Hero in Waiting @ Feb 7 2007, 12:36 AM) [snapback]5045[/snapback]
Ouch, that was rough, I wouldn't even have been that mean, after all, he's a main character.
Claude didn't know he was the main Character that's why he threw him off.
QUOTE(slop27 @ Jan 21 2007, 12:26 AM) [snapback]1475[/snapback]
back to claude it would be interesting if his ability was a light bending field because if it was then the writers might make it so he could leave a temporary field around something and hide it from some one later on in the series cause if it was it would be even better to do it to a bad guy who couldn't see out of it and just beat him while he is stumbling around essentaily blind. but hey that is just my thoughts.
I remember in ST:Voyager that he could be in a diffrent phase shift. like a different dimention frequency. dry.gif
Supergirl
Lets just face it, Claude is one cool dude.
Aerdna
QUOTE(Supergirl @ Mar 28 2007, 07:25 PM) [snapback]17367[/snapback]
Lets just face it, Claude is one cool dude.


I concur...bring him bacccckkkk! I hope he's in the finale.
Jester77
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I concur...bring him bacccckkkk! I hope he's in the finale.


I hope so too, I haven't heard anything about him returning but they could be keeping it secret
Supergirl
Be great to have him return!
Jester77
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Be great to have him return!


I agree maybe then he can explain who he was hiding and how he managed to escape HRG
Aerdna
Wee! It looks like Claude will be making a return!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYFqHPo7U0
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