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Tim Kring
I believe that HRG (Mr. Bennet) works for either Linderman, or the US government, in some sort of way. That has to be the way they connect HRG to Linderman!

I don't know how else they would tie Linderman into the story!!! I think HRG (Mr. Bennet) is getting ORDERS/ADVICE FROM LINDERMAN!

I think Linderman is telling HRG (Mr. Bennet) where all of the HEROES are, because he knows, and deals with them everyday!!! And I think that HRG (Mr. Bennet) works for LINDERMAN!

(Sorry for repeating myself a coupla times!

-Alic
heromaxine
QUOTE(Tim Kring @ Feb 6 2007, 12:44 AM) [snapback]4848[/snapback]
I believe that HRG (Mr. Bennet) works for either Linderman, or the US government, in some sort of way. That has to be the way they connect HRG to Linderman!

I don't know how else they would tie Linderman into the story!!! I think HRG (Mr. Bennet) is getting ORDERS/ADVICE FROM LINDERMAN!

I think Linderman is telling HRG (Mr. Bennet) where all of the HEROES are, because he knows, and deals with them everyday!!! And I think that HRG (Mr. Bennet) works for LINDERMAN!

(Sorry for repeating myself a coupla times!

-Alic



We certainly know that whoever HRG works for, that person has to be very powerful with plenty of money. We seem to be receiving clues that it could be Linderman and he would fit the powerful and rich bill.

Is there no end to what this person can do? As an example of Linderman's power is he must have called in a few favors to get someone on death row to confess to Jessica's crimes and the DA to drop the case. Now, why would he do that? Most likely wants to use Jessica to again do something for him.

A second example is that he must have some influence with the FBI, maybe has that red headed FBI agent in his pocket because she seemed way to friendly with HRG during the raid on Primatech Paper looking for Sylar. She sure seemed to be covering for HRG and in a hurry to get the SWAT/FBI agents out of there.

If it is indeed Linderman who is in charge, then he has to know all about the heroes and the powers that they are developing. A person with a lot of power wants more just as the old addage says....Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I suspect that Linderman sees the Heroes' power as a way to get more if he has them in his control. Isn't that what HRG said to Mohinder when he wanted Mohinder to work with him to help "control" the heroes? Of course, HRG may have just meant control their power to keep them from self destructing. We aren't sure about that yet.

Is there anyone else who could possible be HRG's boss other than Linderman? 1) Well, we have seen that Hiro's daddy, Mr. Nakamura has some big bucks in his pockets but he seemed concerned about his family business in Japan being subject to takeovers and having an heir to run it and it doesn't seem that Linderman is concerned with anyone or anything being able to stop him from doing whatever business he wants to. 2) The Petrelli family seems to have some loose change lying around but may be more of a front and any real wealth. After all, Nathan had to get a campaign "donation" from Linderman in order to finance his election.

I also wondered about 3) The Deveaux Society. This was Samone's father's, Charles Deveaux, company. We don't know anything about that company yet except that their slogan is "Helping the World Evolve for a Better Tomorrow". Is it possible that Charles Deveaux was involved somehow with finding and controlling our Heroes? He was obviously wealthy as he owned a building in NY and had a private nurse. Could HRG actually be working for The Deveaux Society? Who would be in charge since Charles death? Or is he really dead? Could Samone have taken her father's place and be in charge of the company now? Samoine seems very mysterious sometimes like she knows more than she lets on and has so many contacts with the various Heroes almost like she is keeping tabs on them (a watcher?). Or might it be a Board of Directors on which could sit any of the above meantioned characters? Could The Deveaux Society just be another front for Linderman?

Even if The Deveaux Society isn't who HRG works for, I feel that this company is going to be involved somehow. Remember in episode 13, The Fix, when we found out that Claude feeds the birds and Peter commented on the fact that it was at the same building that Charles Deveaux owned and I presume lived until his death because Peter said that he came there everyday. And then tonight Isaac painted his view of the aftermath of the explosion as seen from the roof of where he was, which I'm thinking is the same building, and Samone commenting on the birds and how her father said to just let them stay. Then Isaac said that he felt that "this place" meaning the building, the rooftop, was connected someway to all of this.
So there is some connection there that we don't quite understand just yet.

Oh, one more thing, I think that I remember from one of the interviews with someone connected with the show, it was stated that HRG didn't work for a government agency. So that would seem to put him in the private sector then. So not FBI, CIA or any other agency with initials. HRG told Hana Gitelman that he was CIA but we believe that he lied to her just to sweeten the appeal to her for the field work she so desired. So we might say we know or at least think that we know who he doesn't work for.

I am looking forward to espisode 17 Company Man when we finally find out HRG origins. Maybe who his boss is will be explained then.





Tim Kring
QUOTE(heromaxine @ Feb 6 2007, 12:33 AM) [snapback]4866[/snapback]
We certainly know that whoever HRG works for, that person has to be very powerful with plenty of money. We seem to be receiving clues that it could be Linderman and he would fit the powerful and rich bill.

Is there no end to what this person can do? As an example of Linderman's power is he must have called in a few favors to get someone on death row to confess to Jessica's crimes and the DA to drop the case. Now, why would he do that? Most likely wants to use Jessica to again do something for him.

A second example is that he must have some influence with the FBI, maybe has that red headed FBI agent in his pocket because she seemed way to friendly with HRG during the raid on Primatech Paper looking for Sylar. She sure seemed to be covering for HRG and in a hurry to get the SWAT/FBI agents out of there.

If it is indeed Linderman who is in charge, then he has to know all about the heroes and the powers that they are developing. A person with a lot of power wants more just as the old addage says....Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I suspect that Linderman sees the Heroes' power as a way to get more if he has them in his control. Isn't that what HRG said to Mohinder when he wanted Mohinder to work with him to help "control" the heroes? Of course, HRG may have just meant control their power to keep them from self destructing. We aren't sure about that yet.

Is there anyone else who could possible be HRG's boss other than Linderman? 1) Well, we have seen that Hiro's daddy, Mr. Nakamura has some big bucks in his pockets but he seemed concerned about his family business in Japan being subject to takeovers and having an heir to run it and it doesn't seem that Linderman is concerned with anyone or anything being able to stop him from doing whatever business he wants to. 2) The Petrelli family seems to have some loose change lying around but may be more of a front and any real wealth. After all, Nathan had to get a campaign "donation" from Linderman in order to finance his election.

I also wondered about 3) The Deveaux Society. This was Samone's father's, Charles Deveaux, company. We don't know anything about that company yet except that their slogan is "Helping the World Evolve for a Better Tomorrow". Is it possible that Charles Deveaux was involved somehow with finding and controlling our Heroes? He was obviously wealthy as he owned a building in NY and had a private nurse. Could HRG actually be working for The Deveaux Society? Who would be in charge since Charles death? Or is he really dead? Could Samone have taken her father's place and be in charge of the company now? Samoine seems very mysterious sometimes like she knows more than she lets on and has so many contacts with the various Heroes almost like she is keeping tabs on them (a watcher?). Or might it be a Board of Directors on which could sit any of the above meantioned characters? Could The Deveaux Society just be another front for Linderman?

Even if The Deveaux Society isn't who HRG works for, I feel that this company is going to be involved somehow. Remember in episode 13, The Fix, when we found out that Claude feeds the birds and Peter commented on the fact that it was at the same building that Charles Deveaux owned and I presume lived until his death because Peter said that he came there everyday. And then tonight Isaac painted his view of the aftermath of the explosion as seen from the roof of where he was, which I'm thinking is the same building, and Samone commenting on the birds and how her father said to just let them stay. Then Isaac said that he felt that "this place" meaning the building, the rooftop, was connected someway to all of this.
So there is some connection there that we don't quite understand just yet.

Oh, one more thing, I think that I remember from one of the interviews with someone connected with the show, it was stated that HRG didn't work for a government agency. So that would seem to put him in the private sector then. So not FBI, CIA or any other agency with initials. HRG told Hana Gitelman that he was CIA but we believe that he lied to her just to sweeten the appeal to her for the field work she so desired. So we might say we know or at least think that we know who he doesn't work for.

I am looking forward to espisode 17 Company Man when we finally find out HRG origins. Maybe who his boss is will be explained then.


WOW!!! A lot said, and said very well dude! You are one VERY OBSERVANT PERSON! You and Charlie_J would get a long just fine!!!

Well, to agree with you, that building that Issac painted does have some great importance in the stroyline! The Deveaux Society definitely has to come into play some time!!!

I agree with you on all of the points you made! We agree! Especially that Linderman has to know everything, everyone, somehow!!!!

LINDERMAN is THE MAN!!! He definitely wants to use Nikki/Jessica!!! He wants all of the Heroes! He will be revealed soon! After February though... That is what Tim Kring said in the last TV Guide interview!

"We will not see Linderman until someone dies!" -Tim Kring (quoting). He also mentioned AFTER FEBRUARY!

It will be interesting to see Linderman tie into the story, and watch Nathan having explain to his wife about Claire!!! tongue.gif

Well! That was a huge brain storm, and i gotta rest dude!

keep on posting, I like your style!

oh yeah, and by the way, Linderman could STILL be one of the Petrelli's real father! Since Peter and Nathan's mom could have slept with Linderman, after all, Linderman and Peter and Nathan's father were partners! Buddies! ETC!!!

WE ALL KNOW HOW SECRETIVE THE PETRELLI'S MOTHER IS! She never ever told them about their "father's" critical depression! And she made the suicide attempts look like strokes!!!

You never know!!!
DGenXHBK
corrections... i think she made her husband's suicide attempts look like heart attacks... smile.gif

btw, i was just thinking... maybe mr linderman is someone we have already seen in the show. and "mr linderman" is just a fake name or something. could be mohinder's dad for all we know! yes i know that we've been told he's dead but has anyone seen him actually die? only in that one scene with the boy who showed mohinder that his father was assulted and killed in a cab. what i'm trying to say is that he could be anyone! might even be HGR himself.... just my two cents!
Tim Kring
QUOTE(DGenXHBK @ Feb 6 2007, 03:30 AM) [snapback]4896[/snapback]
corrections... i think she made her husband's suicide attempts look like heart attacks... smile.gif

btw, i was just thinking... maybe mr linderman is someone we have already seen in the show. and "mr linderman" is just a fake name or something. could be mohinder's dad for all we know! yes i know that we've been told he's dead but has anyone seen him actually die? only in that one scene with the boy who showed mohinder that his father was assulted and killed in a cab. what i'm trying to say is that he could be anyone! might even be HGR himself.... just my two cents!


Yeah... I already said that Petrelli's mother made the suicide attempts look like strokes/heart attacks, (they are basically the same thing!)

By the way, Linderman is someone we have NOT met! Tim Kring said he has yet to be introduces until after February "...When someone dies." QUOTING THE CREATOR OF THE SHOW! From a recent TV Guide magazine Interview! (Sorry to burst your bubble!)

-Alic
Jester77
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Yeah... I already said that Petrelli's mother made the suicide attempts look like strokes/heart attacks, (they are basically the same thing!)
Not really but thats okay we got the point

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By the way, Linderman is someone we have NOT met! Tim Kring said he has yet to be introduces until after February "...When someone dies." QUOTING THE CREATOR OF THE SHOW! From a recent TV Guide magazine Interview! (Sorry to burst your bubble!)


That's a good thing to hear and I don't think that HRG works for Linderman it's too expected and it seems strange especially when HRG attempted to kidnap Nathan
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Feb 9 2007, 08:05 PM) [snapback]5530[/snapback]
Not really but thats okay we got the point
That's a good thing to hear and I don't think that HRG works for Linderman it's too expected and it seems strange especially when HRG attempted to kidnap Nathan


Well, I think it would be cool to see if that is how HRG is connected to him!!!

I THINK LINDERMAN IS THE UNDERGROUND PRESIDENT!!! tongue.gif huh.gif
Hero in Waiting
QUOTE(Tim Kring @ Feb 11 2007, 11:21 PM) [snapback]6371[/snapback]
Well, I think it would be cool to see if that is how HRG is connected to him!!!

I THINK LINDERMAN IS THE UNDERGROUND PRESIDENT!!! tongue.gif huh.gif


What do you know of the Omega Agency?!?!?! He's not the chairman of this organization is he? Hmmmm... could be. Interesting theory....

Side note, there realy is some odd information about this group out there. Kind a spooky when you check it out. There are some real power players involved. I don't know that it is real...but I wouldn't doubt all of it. Most rumors have a begining in fact, the facts just get distorted. Omega Agency=Wild stuff...

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Tim Kring
QUOTE(Hero in Waiting @ Feb 11 2007, 11:40 PM) [snapback]6375[/snapback]
What do you know of the Omega Agency?!?!?! He's not the chairman of this organization is he? Hmmmm... could be. Interesting theory....

Side note, there realy is some odd information about this group out there. Kind a spooky when you check it out. There are some real power players involved. I don't know that it is real...but I wouldn't doubt all of it. Most rumors have a begining in fact, the facts just get distorted. Omega Agency=Wild stuff...

cool.gif


Now that you bring up the "Omega Agency," I came across this article last week in my research of the orginization... VERY INTERESTING!!!

VERY POWERFUL PEOPLE! So I think this show will have something to do with the Omega Agency, just like LOST with it's "DHARMA INITIATIVE!"

Take a look!

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/omega.html

Tazorak
Wow thats some crazy stuff right there! its a very interesting topic.
Hero in Waiting

I first became aware of it in the early 1990s....that was after my military service, but before I began working closely as a contractor and directly with certain governmental agencies. The more I work with different agencies, the more I realize these folks are just drones, there seems to be a bigger picture that not everyone gets to see. I was responsible for a large program in the state, and sometimes the guidance I would receive made no sense. Then a big event would occur somewhere on the planet....then things would tie together oh so nicely....

WIERD!!!

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zacksahero
I think that HRG works for someone that we dont know about yet. In "The Fix" the doctor (that gets killed by Sylar in "Distractions") was saying that "they" (who ever they is) told HRG and the doctor to keep Sylar alive. tongue.gif bet you never thought of THAT. And that dude who works for him, the black guy, who is he. I mush have gone to the bathroom because I have no idea what his name is.
Hero in Waiting
QUOTE(zacksahero @ Feb 12 2007, 03:27 PM) [snapback]6483[/snapback]
....And that dude who works for him, the black guy, who is he. I mush have gone to the bathroom because I have no idea what his name is.


No one seems to know...he is commonly refered to as the Hatian, even by the other cast members. On the boards he will sometimes be refered to as SED (Scary Euro Dude).

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mac hero
true true
Jester77
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No one seems to know...he is commonly refered to as the Hatian, even by the other cast members. On the boards he will sometimes be refered to as SED (Scary Euro Dude).


Like Mr. Bennet (HRG) the Haitians name is yet to be announced. The name the Haitian comes from Ted Sprague and Scary Euro Dude was a name dubbed by I believe Nathan in one of the episodes
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Hero in Waiting @ Feb 12 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]6474[/snapback]
I first became aware of it in the early 1990s....that was after my military service, but before I began working closely as a contractor and directly with certain governmental agencies. The more I work with different agencies, the more I realize these folks are just drones, there seems to be a bigger picture that not everyone gets to see. I was responsible for a large program in the state, and sometimes the guidance I would receive made no sense. Then a big event would occur somewhere on the planet....then things would tie together oh so nicely....

WIERD!!!

cool.gif


Wow. NICELY SAID!!!
Red
QUOTE(Tim Kring @ Feb 12 2007, 04:20 PM) [snapback]6421[/snapback]
I think it's the Phoenix Organization in John Doe. Where they use sign language & text message to talk to each other.
Tim Kring
I think that HRG's ultimate boss is STILL LINERMAN! I AM STICKING WITH THIS!

I know I have been wrong before, but I think this might be a great possibility!!! It would make for a great way to explain how HRG is connected to Mr. Linderman! wink.gif

Eh!?
Red
IF We are guessing Linderman Theories I suggest we continue in there.

As for Looking for Connection theories from HRG to Linderman is what this thread is all about. So the proof of this will be what we have seen to prove that HRG works for Linderman.

My proof is the company logo of the Linderman group is:
And BOTH are Paper companies.


Tim Kring
QUOTE(Red @ Mar 5 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]10791[/snapback]
IF We are guessing Linderman Theories I suggest we continue in there.

As for Looking for Connection theories from HRG to Linderman is what this thread is all about. So the proof of this will be what we have seen to prove that HRG works for Linderman.

My proof is the company logo of the Linderman group is:
And BOTH are Paper companies.


THANKS RED!

Could you possibly move this topic to the LINDERMAN THEORIES section?

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!

-ALic
Jester77
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I think that HRG's ultimate boss is STILL LINERMAN! I AM STICKING WITH THIS!

I know I have been wrong before, but I think this might be a great possibility!!! It would make for a great way to explain how HRG is connected to Mr. Linderman!


It seems like it would be so obvious for HRG and Linderman to be connected though, that's why I'm still a bit unsure if that is true or not
Supergirl
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Mar 6 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]10843[/snapback]
It seems like it would be so obvious for HRG and Linderman to be connected though, that's why I'm still a bit unsure if that is true or not


Yeah, it would all make sense. There are clues everywhere! Perhaps Linderman has a different thing going on then the company HRG works for, maybe they are rivals laugh.gif
Tim Kring
QUOTE(Supergirl @ Mar 5 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]10852[/snapback]
Yeah, it would all make sense. There are clues everywhere! Perhaps Linderman has a different thing going on then the company HRG works for, maybe they are rivals laugh.gif


They could be rivals?! ohmy.gif
Jester77
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Yeah, it would all make sense. There are clues everywhere! Perhaps Linderman has a different thing going on then the company HRG works for, maybe they are rivals


Or maybe they don't know each other, I'm just kind of against Linderman being so connected to everyone
Supergirl
In this show it seems everything is some how connected.
Jester77
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In this show it seems everything is some how connected.


I agree but knowing how is the difficult part
Supergirl
Yeah, we're forevering guessing laugh.gif
Tim Kring
I so hope they are connected... As in, I hope HRG knows Linderman!

I am still leaning toward the OMEGA AGENCY connection!


Link:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/omega.html
codyopolis
But didn't Nikki/Jessica mention early on about linderman being confused by 2 guys kidknapping nathan? I mean if he knows HRG he would have not cared when Nathan was kidknapped.
Jester77
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But didn't Niki/Jessica mention early on about linderman being confused by 2 guys kidknapping nathan? I mean if he knows HRG he would have not cared when Nathan was kidknapped.


Of course unless it was a setup, and Linderman had planned for HRG to take Nathan
Tim Kring
QUOTE(codyopolis @ Mar 8 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]12144[/snapback]
But didn't Nikki/Jessica mention early on about linderman being confused by 2 guys kidknapping nathan? I mean if he knows HRG he would have not cared when Nathan was kidknapped.


Hmmm... I think you are going somewhere with all this talk!
Red
the CO. could have influence on the Montecito Casino and NOT Linderman cause it's NOT the Corinthians. So Far in Chapter 17 we Know HRG works for Thompson & Mr. Nakamura.
Hence the CO. could be mostly owned by Yamagato Industries. Remember Kimiko's Expansion?

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