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middleweight
who is the actuall killer then, Adam or Maury?
And why was maury going to kill bob if the killer is Adam?
Confused!!
jeff2hogan
i thought it was explained that maury is adam's weapon
shanniee
QUOTE(jeff2hogan @ Nov 6 2007, 02:36 PM) *
i thought it was explained that maury is adam's weapon

Maury is Adam's puppet yes, but it hasnt been explained entirely that Adam or Maury or whoever the hooded killer is.
maxxann
QUOTE(shanniee @ Nov 6 2007, 10:27 PM) *
Maury is Adam's puppet yes, but it hasnt been explained entirely that Adam or Maury or whoever the hooded killer is.

Maybe it's West?? huh.gif
bignas1234
The killer is mainly Adam, who is using Maury as a puppet to help him kill the elders, so in theory i think Adam killed Kaito and maury made Angela attack herself, pure manipulation by Adam
Idontwannabeasuperhero
QUOTE(bignas1234 @ Nov 6 2007, 04:02 PM) *
The killer is mainly Adam, who is using Maury as a puppet to help him kill the elders, so in theory i think Adam killed Kaito and maury made Angela attack herself, pure manipulation by Adam

AdamKensei would fit inside that hoody (even if it wasn't actually him in that scene). Also, he could jump off a building and survive.
maxxann
QUOTE(Idontwannabeasuperhero @ Nov 7 2007, 12:07 AM) *
AdamKensei would fit inside that hoody (even if it wasn't actually him in that scene). Also, he could jump off a building and survive.

But how fast can he regenerate??? Ando was looking at Kaito the moment he hit the ground... why wasnt anyone there? And Adam should have spilled blood of course... why none?

I say it is someone who can fly or teleport.
bignas1234
QUOTE(maxxann @ Nov 6 2007, 08:09 AM) *
But how fast can he regenerate??? Ando was looking at Kaito the moment he hit the ground... why wasnt anyone there? And Adam should have spilled blood of course... why none?

I say it is someone who can fly or teleport.


maybe his abilities have grown stonger, after 400 yrs it is possible, and he can regenerate like the speed of light and he sucks his blood in like claire
SpriteSODA
QUOTE(maxxann @ Nov 6 2007, 08:09 AM) *
But how fast can he regenerate??? Ando was looking at Kaito the moment he hit the ground... why wasnt anyone there? And Adam should have spilled blood of course... why none?

I say it is someone who can fly or teleport.


hmm its also possible that parkman's dad messed with his brain and caused him to think that he's fighting and make him fall.
maxxann
QUOTE(SpriteSODA @ Nov 7 2007, 12:12 AM) *
hmm its also possible that parkman's dad messed with his brain and caused him to think that he's fighting and make him fall.

I quite agree with you. Ando looked like he was surprised that Kaito was jumping to his death. Did Ando tell the police he saw someone push Kaito and they both fell? refresh my memory!!! Cause if he did, then, the Maury theory is scrapped.

it could be someone else. not adam. Because kaito was surprised at the killer he said "of all of them, I never expected it to be you." So if it's adam, he would've expected, right?
hiroburger
you know, the one thing i still don't get is: how exactly was maury acting as adam's puppet? i mean, was adam just sweet talking maury into some delusion of grandeur? is adam truly that manipulative? if anything, maury can use anyone else has HIS puppet via nightmares... this is one thing that is still really vague to me....
maxxann
QUOTE(hiroburger @ Nov 7 2007, 12:34 AM) *
you know, the one thing i still don't get is: how exactly was maury acting as adam's puppet? i mean, was adam just sweet talking maury into some delusion of grandeur? is adam truly that manipulative? if anything, maury can use anyone else has HIS puppet via nightmares... this is one thing that is still really vague to me....

guys, you can't believe all Bob has said. He may be lying. Maury can be acting on his own... to gain control of the company as the leader, as the strongest. Adam could be acting on his own too.
shanniee
QUOTE(maxxann @ Nov 6 2007, 05:37 PM) *
guys, you can't believe all Bob has said. He may be lying. Maury can be acting on his own... to gain control of the company as the leader, as the strongest. Adam could be acting on his own too.

true true, all of you do raise an interesting point.
But to make it simple. How do you kill a person who cant die?
Maury makes people live their nightmares and then let them die eventually...
Adam cant die as it seems, so he can just face the nightmare and go at it without having any consequences for his own. Therefore Maury = powerless against Adam.
If Adam and Claire have the same ability and I mean EVERYTHING, then Claire could potentially become one of the baddest persons in Heroes.
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