Sense when can Isaac paint what already happened? (Of course, without knowing. 400 years ago, not yesterday.)

Unless Hiro is in a different dimension altogether, which wouldn't make sense, then how is it possible?

either

1) it's in Hiro's future, if you assume Hiro to mark a linear progression, regardless of what dimension/time position he is in. Think of it like relativity. Hiro bends space and time, while moving in a straight line

2) Hiro and Kensei fight each other in the future

3) lol @ plot hole

4) something I'm not smart enough to think up.

didn't he also paint a picture of dinasour or something?

yes but that was the future, hiro then went to the museum and saw the dinosaur

Probably the first, it makes sense.
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so the sword fight they had in the gun tent wasn't the one painted in the picture?

do you think it will be a proper show-down type thing?

Most probably number 1.

The painting was part of why Kaito knew Hiro's future. That he was to go back to 1671 and become Kensei. Hiro is actually the real Kensei. That was why Kaito molded his son for his destiny, remember he told Angela in chap 1 of season 2 that he has done his part for Hiro to fulfill his destiny and asked her what she has done for her son (Nathan who didn't fulfill his destiny to win the elections) and that pissed her off.

I agree... its not an event that happens in historys-future, but in Hiros-future...

If that makes sense!

I just watched this whole episode over again and there were two things which caught my attention:

1.) Hiro is not wearing glasses during the fight with Kensei in the tent with the gun powder (but he does in the painting, doesn't he?!)

2.) When Bob talks about Adam he clearly says "(...) and two weeks ago he ESCAPES.." - he didn't say escaped like it should be right. So was this just a wrong grammar or are we going to see something more about the break-out (still can't see why he uses the present time tough)

What do you guys think?
Just mistakes or isn't everything like we're suspecting it?

The paintings were numbered. Anyone know what number from the series of 8 this was?

Hm...glasses and a blue robe....wasn't his robe from the past kinda a brownish red?

And totally off-topic thought...
*Hiro and Adam fighting*
Hiro: "You killed my father!"
Adam: "No, Hiro...."

>_< rofl



I think this is just a common way of narrating the past.

"And then this guy walks into the bar, and he says..."

I thought #1 most likely (That's why it's #1) but it seemed kind of foolish to say "this is why" when I don't really know.

number 1 was the death of Kaito. Number 8 is the death of HRG.

hmmm i don't know. i didn't think it was possible for isaac to paint the past. the whole time/dimesion thing confuses me so i don't think about it

i remember it being blue like in the painting.. although the glasses thing is questionable..

Just rewatched the scenes where he teleports out of the tent, talks to yaeko, and fights with kensei. The robe is a dark blue. And here's the closest scene I could find to the painting:

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It's not the right angle, and Hiro doesn't have glasses. And I couldn't find a closer match in that scene. So I'm thinking there will be a Hiro-Adam showdown at some point.

I'm quite sure this is true, Hiro always returns to the time where he should be, instead of 1 second after he left. This time he couldn't even keep track off time, a logical reaction would just be one day after he left or something like that.



I believe details are often wrong on the paintings, didn't Hiro stab Sylar from the front in the comic and during the series in the back? I'm quite sure clothing or other "details" sometimes are a bit different on the paintings. Else HRG could just throw away his glasses and prevent his death (now that would be a bummer plotwise)

Nah, I think he stabs him from the front both times.

As far as I can remember, all pictures happened exactly (!) as they were painted, didn't they?

Well, we know that Isaac sees the events unfolding before his eyes before starting to paint. He doesn't magically paint exactly what happens, it would depend on his memory and stuff too, wouldn't it? It would then be possible for small mistakes to be made (as did with many of Isaac's older paintings).

About the theory about the painting not refering to the fight that took place in the tent, and instead that the painting has yet to be realized... Anyone noticed that Takezo/Adam is wearing mail armor in the painting? That was what he was wearing when they fought in the tent, why would Adam wear mail in the present urbanised day?

The yellow splashes in the background of the painting looks vaguely like flames too. The tent was burning at the time.

hiro had really muscular forearm, didn't he?

It was both times from the front.

There were several times when the camera view faded from a painting to the matching scene, and things were pretty much identical. Maybe the nit-pickety details (ooh, the crack on that wall is going the wrong way!) weren't perfectly accurate, but everything else pretty much was.

Now, of course, I would have to go back and compare every single painting to the scene we saw that matched each painting, but I'm sure the details are right for the most part.



o_0 but then he'd be involved in a car crash cuz he can't see...but yeh, good point.



I think the word is "strained"

The painting and the actual scene were different for the Hiro Vs Kensei fight. I had yet to see something Isaac paint not happen the exact way he painted it. (I miss Isaac.)

I was also thinking that some of those paitings might be fake or maybe Isaac didn't draw them but Peter did???

oh...never thought abt that...in that case sylar could draw it tooo
but i guess they found it in isaac's loft...so probably he drew it...

Not to beat a dead horse, but I would still argue that the giant explosion on Isaac's floor didn't happen exactly. True, the explosion happened when Hiro traveled, but it wasn't a skyline view, and there wasn't much fire/mushroom cloud to speak of.

Also, the painting of Claire being Sylar'd never happened. Unless you count the alt future ("5 Years Gone") occurrence.



Sylar lived in Isaac's loft for a time We even saw him do some painting up there.

i always thought that painting was of the other cheerleader, but we all just assumed it was claire initially

Hiro is a wuss

The series of eight was done by Isaac; you can tell by the style.

Isaac always painted in a strongly 'comic book' style. Peter paints more realistically, and I can't remember how Sylar painted, but I do remember noting that they had changed the style again.

Although they are all painting the future, they are painting as they themselves would do it.

As for the glasses thing, I think that was just a mistake. The moment when Hiro fights Kensei is pivotal in history because it makes Hiro become the samurai hero for himself, and it makes Kensei 'die' and regenerate (presumably filled with hate) and start on the path towards our present.

So it's the sort of moment that Isaac would see, and paint. He might equally have done the kiss, but it wouldn't have been such an exciting painting!