I have been reading the boards on NBC.com and also read the interview from Tim Kring about season 2. In my opinion season 2 has not been as bad as everyone has made it seem. People complain of the first five episodes lacking adrenaline rushes but honestly when we watch a movie we need time for things to build up. Very few movies is just packed full of adrenaline rushes and is successful. Just like season 1 the first few episodes was the intro to the story, where storylines and character development happens. I feel the first episodes of season 2 did just that. Sure he could have made it more interesting by giving us the viral appocolypse vision earlier but I mean I think it came at a reasonable time. I just think people need to realize it's the character development and the storylines which makes a good show/movie, not how many cliffhangers can we fit into a season. I think Volume 2 has been fine, although not perfect but I think it has done it's job.

p.s. am I the only one who liked Hiro in Feudal Japan?

i liked hiro's story! more could have happened i suppose but as long as im watching it i'm happy

completely agree with you..

From a purely entertainment perspective, I agree that Heroes Season 2 has been pretty solid. Like others, I do agree its beginning could have been better focused but it was nonetheless satisfactory.

However, I do have several concerns regarding their use of characters as a whole. It seems that the production team rarely leave former characters alive for future use; especially the empowered ones. This comes in the form of Eden and Hana, whose deaths weren't even used as plot devices. Eden died in Sylar's attempt to escape in which he doesn't even get as far as out the door. Hana's is even worse in that her character didn't even make so much as a dent in the storyline before she gets killed off (to top it off, it's in the comics at that). The reason I bring this up again is due to Season 2 Episode 3 in which Candice was added into the Sylar scene for the sole purpose of getting killed as a form of explanation why she isn't around anymore even though her sudden disappearance from the story would have been hardly noticed.

Another issue is how the new characters have been handled. Aside from Kensei/Adam, I don't really see how the other new characters tie into the central storyline/plot/theme of the season which is focusing on the murders of the 12 as well as on the Shanti virus. Maya and Alej simply don't figure into the main story and seem to be there to interact with Sylar in a 'Adventures of Sylar and Co.' segment. The problem I have with this is that it sort of feels that Heroes is filming two stories at once. True, their connection may not be revealed yet much like how Hiro's hadn't been until recently. But that doesn't make Sylar's story any better but rather Hiro's worse. I guess what I'm getting at is that there is a general lack of cohesion between the characters that was present in the first season. It seems that there are just too many separate stories being told at once without many unifying factors besides their having special abilities. At least in the first season, you could see how the characters' stories were related.

i think now because there are more characters, everybody is getting less screen time and episodes where they don't even appear due to another storyline. i think this is why some people say the show is moving too slowly. i particulary think that sylar's plot is moving rather slowly as he hasn't been in a few episodes and that is why they haven't had time to link him in to the main storyline. when everything does finally come together, it should be one hell of an episode.

Should be. Though isn't that what everyone was saying about the season one finale? Everyone knew it would be Peter vs Sylar, with much throwing about of power, and a bang to end it all. Granted, there were powers, and it was a good finale, but not as good as everyone had hoped.

I guess it's just the flash appeal they have, what, four epis now to wrap it up? Let's hope they've made the most of it.

I really, really enjoyed the season 1 finale. I was actually really pleased that it wasn't a huge power showdown between Peter and Sylar. Most of my favorite moments are pieces of pure characterization where a power is only incidental to the scene. I've really enjoyed S2 so far and hopefully they keep up the good work in that department while stepping up the action that most people seem to want, haha.

You've hit the nail on the head here. Well put. I love season 1 but I don't think you can defend the method of storytelling used in season 2, it's so patchy. It feels like a number of writers all writing their separate little stories and then just trying to piece it together in the edit...

Hiro always worked best with Ando, his story (I know it's set up the Adam character) has been handled badly. It's felt direction-less and unconvincing, not only in terms of setting but in emotion. And the twins are a nuisance - Sylar needs to kill them off sooner rather than later (Despite Dania Ramirez being a hottie )

The best new character for me is Monica, she's what reminds me of why I loved the first season so much. Though now she has her i-pod (good product placement there - subtle) I don't see how she'll be figuring in the grand scheme. Overall the start of this season has been poor and it's only now things are starting to pick up and we have only 4 episodes left... can it redeem itself?

I still keep the faith. But those writers need to work together more...

well... lte's see...... main stories so far.....

Matt/Mohinnder/Molly (HRG, Nathan & Bob) - probably the only characters in the middle of the main storyline....... which just barely tied Claire....... with Nikki and The Haitian still VERY, VERY underused........ they could have killed the haitian and that could have been a better explanation as to why he wasn't in last season finale.......

Claire/Wess - more like a teenager pubescent storyline...... or a bad

Monica/Micah - kind of tied to the Company..... but still very loose..... her character had some purpose when she was with the company... but when they released her, they broke the ties......

Hero/Kensei - In Japan..... just now he came back..... I hope theres a good explanation as to why they did what happened back there.... because Adam might as well have appeared out of thin air and say thet he was Linderman's mentor........

Ando - tied to Hero by some old bubble gum or rubber cement....eeeerrrrrr sorry meant to say..... scrolls...

Peter - just now got sort of tied to Hero by present day kensei (Adam)..... and left his past story line in the future?!?!?!?! kind of weak... for now.....

and what about Elle????? we only saw her once?????? she went, killed disappear???? if she just appears at the finale from door number 3, I'll be REALLY disapointed........

Sylar/Maya/Alejandro - don't tie up ANYWHERE!!!! Sylar is not even evil, he's just a wannabe.... I want the sinester Sylar Back... the one with lines like: now's usually the time where people scream", and Boom....... the Sylar that lookes at you with the: "You're broken, i can fix it" look......

they thing is that.... by themselves they are kind of interesting.... but honestly thay don't ad up to much together...... they all seem tied up by overcooked spagetti....... Peter's Irish storyline, Hiros ancient storyline, Maya/Alejandro, and Monica all seem just not in the same show......

the thing is that they have only 4 chapters left... and one is the 4 months ago...... so I don't see much tying there...... these are gonna be some interesting fast pased episodes......maya/ alejandro have to fit in somehow........ which my guess is that they are the cure..... as Maya's power evolves to controling sickness(?!?!?!)...or Alejandro curing them...... the company is gonna go after Claire.......... and the others..... and PLEASE Give Sylar his powers back.......

i only hope they don't throw a Smallville-esque finale....... I hope everyone has their journey..... and they actually build it up.......

but... that's wishfull thinking.......

don't get me wrong.... this has been a good season.... it's been entertaining... but as some of you have expressed.... it lacks Cohesion.......

"Hero/Kensei - In Japan..... just now he came back..... I hope theres a good explanation as to why they did what happened back there.... because Adam might as well have appeared out of thin air and say thet he was Linderman's mentor........"

I believe the reason behind Adam coming back would be for Hiro to have conflict with him, just think about it, Hiro fighting to save the future and having to go passed his hero to do it! =D


"Sylar/Maya/Alejandro - don't tie up ANYWHERE!!!! Sylar is not even evil, he's just a wannabe.... I want the sinester Sylar Back... the one with lines like: now's usually the time where people scream", and Boom....... the Sylar that lookes at you with the: "You're broken, i can fix it" look......"

Oh believe me he's still sinister, he's just "Acting" he told the guy who didn't understand English upfront he was going to kill his sister and him when he got the opportunity, even if they don't give him powers back. O.O


"Peter - just now got sort of tied to Hero by present day kensei (Adam)..... and left his past story line in the future?!?!?!?! kind of weak... for now....."

I kinda agree with you there, he lacks a little personality this season in my opinion, I think he and Nathan should meet up again.

bob and angela, recurring characters, seem to have a larger role to play than the following regulars:

-Monica
-Ando
-Maya
-Sylar
-Niki


was really looking forward to a cool sylar story arc, but till now, it's just been long winded and draggy.

but besides that, everything seems cool.
darn the writers' strike.

I actually enjoyed Season 2 as much as I enjoyed Season 1, if not more.
But who knows? Maybe I'm just weird, i mean, it seems like I'm one of the few who actually liked Season 1's finale.

I enjoyed season one's finally, it had a big fight in the end with a bunch of the cast, IN THE SAME PLACE. O.O
AS for season 2 I'm liking it still, I think it's better they work syler in then just have a huge focus on him, cause then they have no big shocker to wait up for when he does something unexpected. :/

the cliffhangers in the heroes series is madness.
not only in between episodes,
but in between seasons!

Madness? this...is...SPARTA! *shot* XD

Actually I quite enjoy the cliffhangers, they make you want to see the next eppie.

Actually, they only have one. Minus the four months ago episode, and minus the one after which will be largely Claire-centric, what with the Company going after her, etc. And we can leave out the finale as well since we really ought to have the plot and connections straightened out by then otherwise it'd be too fast paced to make sense of anything (while most of them only got together in the season one finale, their storylines had pretty much resolved and connected by that time). Hence, minus all that, you're only left with one episode to make the connections.

Originally, I suspect that the master plan was to not have Adam's assassinations develop over the second half of season two, with Monica's family possibly tying into that plot (their grandmother sort of looks like one of the ladies in the photo of the 12). And with that much time, the creators could easily tie up the twins' storyline in somewhere. The problem was that the writers' strike threw those well laid plans out the window and forced Heroes to end its season early, cutting things short.

Hence, I suspect a lot of the storylines that had started season two will only be resolved come season three.

I don't know...... maybe Adam doesn't know that Hiro is Kaito's son....... otherwise, he would have only gone after Kaito, not any of the others......... i think it will be a good surprise for Adam to see Hiro back....... and then learn that it was his father he killed....... ... I THINK!!!!!!


yeah he's still sinister..but not Sylar-ish...... he's pulling the same thing he did to Mohinder in season I........ and I still remember.... "That sound, in your heart. What is it?" "Murder." <SHIVERS>


Hiro should pair with Nathan........ boy did those two had chemistry........ all those sceens where just beautiful....... Peter should have someone like Claude... that pushes him to the edge....... (literraly and figuratelly....:-)...) he's been quite 'loose' this season..... probably because he doesn't remembers that he's a peaceful nurse........ and isn't afraid to use his powers....


I enjoyed it too..... it was well done.... up to the last moment the only evil they where fighting was their "inner demons". Sylar was just a spark........ the real danger was the danger that uncontrolled power could be..... just marvelous.....



i hope they do it that way... I'm afraid of the contracts, and availability issues with the actors...... it would be awful to have a "Candice' again...... ( there's rumors of them doing it to Claude) *CHEECH!!!!!*

*sigh*.... but hey... it's still a better series than some others out there.......

I really do enjoy the second season, only Claire is a slight letdown as her role seems to be developed back three years. She has been more mature in season one.

i for the most part have enjoyed season 2, it has been a little slow, but that is logical and sensical for any season 2. my biggest (and really only) problem with the season is very simple - West, Maya & Alejandro. they have drastically brought down the quality of the show and made the flow very uneven. now before i go any further, dont get me wrong, i am not hating on all new characters this season. bob, elle, monica, etc. i have welcomed, and really love their addition to the show. i actually feel that these characters should have been stressed more then the 3 previously mentioned.

the West, Maya, and Alejandro characters have drastically brought down the quality episode after episode. West/Claire was a clear filler storyline for the Claire character to get her to this arch now with the virus. West is a blah character, played by an average actor, with a recylced power. Maya/Alejandro IMO have just taken up time so far. from what I can tell, virtually no one in the fandom has recepted to them well, and Sylar could have had a much better arch then driving them around the border. take those 2 characters out of the first 2 episodes and that is about 20 minutes over two eps. combined that could have been used for the petrelli brothers arch which was barely existint early on in the season. overall, season 2 has been very good, and is going to hopefully be great from here on out, but i truly believe it could have been great from the outset if only these 3 characters bios been left out on the cutting room floor.

I'm really loving season two so far, for me its on par with season one all the way, I agree the Claire/West story seems to be a bit of a filler but I'm a tad more interested in the Maya/Alejandro arch, although the stories aren't coming together as well as season one. I'm hoping for Maya/Alejandro to have a pretty large impact on the outcome of the story.
I was also hoping for a tad more "action" with the season one finale, for me some of the coolest moments where in the five years gone episode with peter/hiro in the future, but I guess thats just because I know moments like that aren't going to happen in the timeline we watch .