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Warsaw64
Hi, i'm new here biggrin.gif

Ok, i was watching the trailer for the new heroes episode and i saw Noah (HRG) shooting somebody. Now i read on these forums somewhere that "a non-hero will kill another non-hero"; and Noah is a non-hero. I got this picture from the newest preview of episode 9.



Noah can be sen aiming a gun at someones face. That someone has glasses on too. So, someone with glasses is going to die?

Battle of the glasses o.O
Heroes_Crazy
That is BOB the man with glasses!
themko
Yup I'd recognize his toad-like face everywhere biggrin.gif

You think he turns the bullet gold on impact? a gold bullet doesn't really do a lot of damage does it? There's still hope for him I think or else Claire jumps in front of the bullet; the trailer seems to suggest that
qinrawks
QUOTE(themko @ Nov 13 2007, 10:50 PM) *
Yup I'd recognize his toad-like face everywhere biggrin.gif

You think he turns the bullet gold on impact? a gold bullet doesn't really do a lot of damage does it? There's still hope for him I think or else Claire jumps in front of the bullet; the trailer seems to suggest that


Bullets do impact whether they have like, poison in them or something. I think HRG dies. Damnnnnn.
Jayranger
I think HRG is going to kill Bob but then Mohinder has to shoot him.
bignas1234
i believe somehow HRG gets shot in the eye, like in isaacs painting
most of isaacs paintings have come true
but sumhow HRG survives and we see him reviving again, there is a picture sumwhere in this forum speculating this
Atheshar
Since Bob has a power, does that make him a hero, and not a non-hero? If so his death can't be the one talked about...
The DOKTOR
QUOTE(Atheshar @ Nov 13 2007, 12:47 PM) *
Since Bob has a power, does that make him a hero, and not a non-hero? If so his death can't be the one talked about...

Maybe it's non-hero kills hero and then is killed by other non-hero. Benett kills Bob, gets ''killed'' by Mo. blink.gif
TrollyOgre
I think that it'll look as though Noah will kill Mohinder (from the promo's I've seen) but then at the last minute in a shock twist (lol at) someone else will kill Noah....

But that doesn't explain the possibility of Bob (even though he has power)...

Hmmmm.....

OK. It will look as though Noah is going to kill Bob, but at the last minute in a shock twist (again lol at) Mohinder will kill Noah (just as the paintings said).

But didn't the painting show Noah dead at night time?

Gosh I'm confused. I'll shut up now....

OHWAIT!
P.S. The person that dies doesn't nessacerily (I apologise, I do not know the spelling of that word. It's a stupid word :]) have to stay dead. They could get healed or revived or whatever....
-JaiMiTo-
I think is Bob, Elle is seen crying really hard in the trailer, and since Bob is her father, well, you do the math......
MrJP
QUOTE(Atheshar @ Nov 13 2007, 06:47 PM) *
Since Bob has a power, does that make him a hero, and not a non-hero? If so his death can't be the one talked about...


The one that follows after that, Mohinder killing HRG would be wink.gif
Atheshar
So would HRG killing Mohinder.
SandmanX
It definitely looks like Bob in the screen capture. You can make out the balding head and with glasses it's presto! Bob.

Quite plausible that HRG would shoot Bob since both work for The Company with totally different ideals. HRG also seems to be quite vulnerable at this stage since he's going through a lot with Claire and just got slapped in the face with a prophecy of his imminent death so I wouldn't be surprised if he cocked his 9mm and blasted every other guy he bumps into.
Atheshar
At the end of the US promo, Claire (or is it Elle? but it sounds like Claire to me) yells "DAD!" My original interpretation was that this was the moment that HRG gets shot, but my friend insists she is more shocked than despairing. After all, she knows her father abduct(s/ed) people in the past, but she has no idea that he's personally responsible for several deaths. I don't think she imagines at all that he's a killer.

My personal interpretation? Mohinder asks him to give Claire to the Company. HRG goes to shoot him. Both of those moments are in the preview. When have we ever in the past seen HRG with his gun out not able to carry through with it? - I can't think of very many. However if there's one person who could stop him from pulling the trigger, it's Claire. That would be the "DAD!" moment.

If that were true, though, it'd be kind of ironic, since Claire could therefore be initially responsible for HRG's "death". (Won't go into the theories about whether or not he actually dies, and what happens after).

Or maybe I'm reading far too much into this and she really does yell "DAD!" because someone just shot him. I'm just trying to figure out why on earth Mohinder wouldn't die if HRG has a gun in his face - since we know that he's alive later on.

Either way, that HRG shoots Bob doesn't really look to be in much doubt...
Warsaw64
Yeah it does look like Bob. Maybe his power isn't just turning things into gold but totally changing elements and atoms etc... He could turn a bullet into oxygen or anything.
Wonder Woman
QUOTE(Atheshar @ Nov 13 2007, 01:24 PM) *
So would HRG killing Mohinder.


Or Mohinder killing HRG.
batmancw
QUOTE(Warsaw64 @ Nov 13 2007, 01:01 PM) *
Yeah it does look like Bob. Maybe his power isn't just turning things into gold but totally changing elements and atoms etc... He could turn a bullet into oxygen or anything.


That's definitely Bob that HRG is holding the gun on.

Here's a possibility...HRG gets shot in the eye, and then Claire uses her blood to heal him just like Adam healed Nathan. After all, the reason The Company wants Claire right now is to use her blood to cure Nikki, and/or help create a vaccine for the virus strains that Mohinder's blood doesn't cure.
perfectly-messy
QUOTE(batmancw @ Nov 14 2007, 10:52 AM) *
That's definitely Bob that HRG is holding the gun on.

Here's a possibility...HRG gets shot in the eye, and then Claire uses her blood to heal him just like Adam healed Nathan. After all, the reason The Company wants Claire right now is to use her blood to cure Nikki, and/or help create a vaccine for the virus strains that Mohinder's blood doesn't cure.


Mmm....make sense, it would be pretty cool if HRG get shot in the eye, then he survive and wear an eye patch lol. He doesn't have to dress up for halloween biggrin.gif

Lets hope he doesn't die...But im sensing a huge fight coming up
Melissa78
QUOTE(perfectly-messy @ Nov 13 2007, 11:44 PM) *
Mmm....make sense, it would be pretty cool if HRG get shot in the eye, then he survive and wear an eye patch lol. He doesn't have to dress up for halloween biggrin.gif

Lets hope he doesn't die...But im sensing a huge fight coming up



I hope it is HRG and Bob and that they do not survive...Not a fan of them...
Parasite
I wouldn't rely on the promos too much. I remember last episode, when the promo stated stuff that they didn't actually show in the episode ("What happened to Sylar?" angry.gif ).
They also don't want to give away to much information so things could look a lot different than they actually are...
maxxann
QUOTE(Parasite @ Nov 14 2007, 01:29 PM) *
I wouldn't rely on the promos too much. I remember last episode, when the promo stated stuff that they didn't actually show in the episode ("What happened to Sylar?" angry.gif ).
They also don't want to give away to much information so things could look a lot different than they actually are...

Yea, let's keep in mind that they can shuffle scenes in a preview. But it would be cool if there'll be a huge fight between these 2 groups. But what about Adam and peter? where would they fit in this scene? And Hiro? Didn't he go back in time to save his dad?
masi_magnificent
i hope hiro can save his dad.. he tried once to change history.. and screwed it up.. but i hope it works out this time! i think bob's going to get shot by HRG.. but mo is going to kill him.
Warsaw64
Yeah things can look different in the preview than they actually are, such as when Ms Petrelli said theres a dark secret in their family and she was just saying he was a mental but we all thought she was explaining to Nathan what her power was.
Kosh
QUOTE(masi_magnificent @ Nov 14 2007, 01:39 PM) *
i hope hiro can save his dad.. he tried once to change history.. and screwed it up.. but i hope it works out this time! i think bob's going to get shot by HRG.. but mo is going to kill him.


I think Hiro is the hooded man who "killed" Kaito, trying to save him from the "killer". It won't be the first time that the future is fullfiled when they trye to change it.
-sparky-
QUOTE(Kosh @ Nov 14 2007, 08:38 PM) *
I think Hiro is the hooded man who "killed" Kaito, trying to save him from the "killer". It won't be the first time that the future is fullfiled when they trye to change it.


Hiro killed his own Dad?
Cylar
Does anyone realise the implications of Hiro saving his father? If he really succeeds in saving his father, then everything we've seen in Season 2 amounts to almost nothing, except for the Maya/Alejandro/Sylar,
maxxann
QUOTE(Cylar @ Nov 15 2007, 12:05 PM) *
Does anyone realise the implications of Hiro saving his father? If he really succeeds in saving his father, then everything we've seen in Season 2 amounts to almost nothing, except for the Maya/Alejandro/Sylar,

I think the story will bend into another result.
jimrchavez
Most likely Kaito has a conversation in frozen time with Hiro which ends with the line we heard him say when he was killed and that he already said to Hiro in season 1. "I never thought it would be you"

Probably about not being able to change everyone's fate. We'll also probably find out Kaito's power, ie it could be Kaito that freezes time to talk to Hiro.
soccergirl
I just read an interview with jack coleman
you can read it here:
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/heroes/exc...-sta-13769.aspx
(sorry link button is not working)

and it seems pretty obvious that HRG is NOT going to die

just read it an you will now why
BigDamnHeroes
QUOTE(soccergirl @ Nov 15 2007, 02:57 PM) *
I just read an interview with jack coleman
you can read it here:
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/heroes/exc...-sta-13769.aspx
(sorry link button is not working)

and it seems pretty obvious that HRG is NOT going to die

just read it an you will now why


Thanks! cool.gif
Melissa78
I really hope HRG dies...I voted on the poll How do you like your HRG and I voted dead...It will be so disappointing to me if he does not die...Please die HRG.
tashnag_01
QUOTE(themko @ Nov 14 2007, 01:50 AM) *
Yup I'd recognize his toad-like face everywhere biggrin.gif

You think he turns the bullet gold on impact? a gold bullet doesn't really do a lot of damage does it? There's still hope for him I think or else Claire jumps in front of the bullet; the trailer seems to suggest that

wtf..

my four year old sister would know the answer to that question
Raekon
In the spoiler was actually said, "A Hero kills a other Hero, a non-hero kills a non-hero".
So it's obvious that HRG won't be able to kill Bob cause it would be a non-hero kills a hero.

Other than that they might reveal what else bob can do since they already said before that he can do more than just turn things to gold. smile.gif

As about Elle, she was crying in Bobs arms so it can't be that she cries because of bob, she just cries after the exchange of her with claire because she turned out to be afraid of her life after all.

From what we've seen of her so far she tends to be very emotional and not controlable at times so it would be rather usual for her to act like a little child that was afraid and cry on the first second only to turn up to a killing maschine in the next second like a psycho. tongue.gif

As far as I know she is gonna zap claire and after that also west (I hope he survives it sad.gif ) so it is more likely that a battle will occur that will be more than just a shoot out of a gun.
maxxann
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Nov 16 2007, 06:19 AM) *
I really hope HRG dies...I voted on the poll How do you like your HRG and I voted dead...It will be so disappointing to me if he does not die...Please die HRG.

oohhhh... no!!! HRG shouldn't die. He will live!!!
Ms.Muggles
From what I've seen in the preview, I think someone will die, but I'm not sure who yet, and they took some of Claire's blood in the preview, so I think that whoever died will be revived.
chimps_n_pimps
all i'm gonna say is hrg shoots west.........no evidence just think it might go down like that........lol
Janet
QUOTE(chimps_n_pimps @ Nov 17 2007, 03:16 PM) *
all i'm gonna say is hrg shoots west.........no evidence just think it might go down like that........lol



I hope not. I like West. sad.gif
matty
QUOTE(chimps_n_pimps @ Nov 17 2007, 03:16 PM) *
all i'm gonna say is hrg shoots west.........no evidence just think it might go down like that........lol


i have some slight evidence to say that west is very involved in this episode, although i dont think hes going to die as ive seen him in a promo for a later episode... but

these are the behind the scenes pics from a while back that people must have forgotten about. it shows claire and west caked out on the floor. im assuming claire tries to run to her dad and west grabs her. it all kicks off he tries to fly claire away and gets shot down and lands as they are in the pics.

spoiler pics


and claire looking not so hot lol.

Atheshar
I thought that Elle tries to zap Claire and hits West instead, as per TV Guide.
superhiro1942
right o.k that picture is kinda disturbing...
Lenore
Looking at the video, then thinking back to the image, I don't think Noah kills Bob OR Mohinder.

Look back at the trailer. With Mohinder, he already has the gun in his face.

Then another shot shows Noah pulling the gun infront of Bob's face.

THEN, when he actually shots, he pulls up the gun again.

My thing is, if the gun is already in Mohinder's OR Bob's face, he wouldn't pull it back up to shot. Though I think we proved Bob is out.

Another thing is I wanna point out is that Noah had Elle. The part where it says "Deadly standoff" shows Elle returning to Bob and Claire returning to Noah. Then it shows Claire standing among rocks that say "Sorry". So, my thing on this is the Claire went to the company, so Noah took Elle hostage and traded in the end. THEN maybe Bob tried to pull something and Noah pulled the gun on him, but didn't shoot and the same for Mohinder. Who he does actually shoot I have no clue though.

Watch it just be some random body guard or something. xD

Machy07
has anyone thought that it might be the haitian that gets shot? i don't actually think that will happen but i just wanted to say it tongue.gif
Raekon
QUOTE(matty @ Nov 18 2007, 12:19 AM) *
spoiler pics </span>

and claire looking not so hot lol.


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
I can't stop laughing!
It's obvious now that claire gots shot! This is the scene where she pulls the bullet out of her ass. tongue.gif laugh.gif

Bumb/ (stoped laughing but can't view the picture anymore laugh.gif ).

In the trailer Elle gets shot! However, only on her arm. That's why she cries at bobs arms.
Because she is hurt and bleeding.
Melissa78
QUOTE(Raekon @ Nov 18 2007, 03:43 PM) *
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
I can't stop laughing!
It's obvious now that claire gots shot! This is the scene where she pulls the bullet out of her a**. tongue.gif laugh.gif

Bumb/ (stoped laughing but can't view the picture anymore laugh.gif ).

In the trailer Elle gets shot! However, only on her arm. That's why she cries at bobs arms.
Because she is hurt and bleeding.



Okay did not need to see that pic and if you think about it those pics of Claire and West on the ground if you viewed them...Very bad things go through my head LOl
maxxann
QUOTE(Machy07 @ Nov 19 2007, 03:00 AM) *
has anyone thought that it might be the haitian that gets shot? i don't actually think that will happen but i just wanted to say it tongue.gif

No I do hope not. he should live. Unless he does it in a most heroic way though.
Warsaw64
Pulls the bullet out her a**. I ROFLed for so long after reading that.
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