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Da.Cu-Ba
Why is this crazy freak running towards someone who could release some 100-thousands of volts on him..

I don't get it.. He just says 'you have chosen the wrong side' and starts running..

really stupid.. He know Peter is so much better then him..

He can't stand a chance, can't he ?

Just my frustrations ^^
saz1
question,
can hiro use time magic against peter?
dave6074
QUOTE(saz1 @ Nov 27 2007, 12:24 PM) *
question,
can hiro use time magic against peter?



hmmm wat exactly do u mean by time magic ??

and i think that hiro ran at peter even though he was gonna be zapped is because hiro wanted revenge for his fathers death i mean wouldnt u ??
if someone had killed ur father you would probably want revenge even though u knew that u had no chance..

maxxann
QUOTE(dave6074 @ Nov 27 2007, 08:48 PM) *
hmmm wat exactly do u mean by time magic ??

and i think that hiro ran at peter even though he was gonna be zapped is because hiro wanted revenge for his fathers death i mean wouldnt u ??
if someone had killed ur father you would probably want revenge even though u knew that u had no chance..

But it wasn't Peter who killed his father.
Rynozeros
guilty by association

peter was defending the murderer
saz1
QUOTE(dave6074 @ Nov 27 2007, 08:48 PM) *
hmmm wat exactly do u mean by time magic ??

and i think that hiro ran at peter even though he was gonna be zapped is because hiro wanted revenge for his fathers death i mean wouldnt u ??
if someone had killed ur father you would probably want revenge even though u knew that u had no chance..


i mean time manipulation,
e.g: stop, slow time...

if can,
then that explain why he dare to attack peter...
The DOKTOR
How dare you call Hiro a stupid fag? tongue.gif
I must admit I have seen scarier attack moves...
We'll see next week.
Vikingisme
I think Hiro was running towards Adam (?)
Da.Cu-Ba
QUOTE(The DOKTOR @ Nov 27 2007, 03:09 PM) *
How dare you call Hiro a stupid fag? tongue.gif
I must admit I have seen scarier attack moves...
We'll see next week.


I loved him all the season etc, but this is just suicide tongue.gif

You don't just ran to the most powerfull guy on earth because you want to revenge your father..
He must know that's suicide.

And i don't think he's able of using his powers, because Peter knows how they work; he isn't frozen in time as we can see..

But hey.. It's just a show tongue.gif

I hope Hiro gets killed due to (t)his stupid action..
dave6074
QUOTE(maxxann @ Nov 27 2007, 01:13 PM) *
But it wasn't Peter who killed his father.



but peter believes that adam is good and therefore leads hiro to believe that peter has fallen to the wrond the side..

it seems that hiro wont stop untill justice is served

hiro and peter can both stop time
which i think is why hiro cant exlude peter from the whole freezing time bit
GeneZ
hiro's power is headache, d***, what if hiro was in tokyo japan and suddenly stops time, will peter be frozen or will he be able to move? lol.
he'll be like, "WTF? i didnt make you stop?" its like having 2 controllers on a television. lol.
gfish
I think while Peter doesn't get caught in Hiro's time freeze, Hiro could still use his teleporting power to dodge any lightning bolts etc. that Peter may throw at him, that way Hiro would have a bit more of a chance. Unless Peter used his mind reading ability to know where Hiro was going. But then Peter's never been too bright.

So maybe his Kamikaze run in is just to put Peter off or make him laugh.

GO HIRO! you can do it, cut his freakin' head off.
hiro4life
QUOTE(Da.Cu-Ba @ Nov 27 2007, 06:15 AM) *
Why is this crazy freak running towards someone who could release some 100-thousands of volts on him..

I don't get it.. He just says 'you have chosen the wrong side' and starts running..

really stupid.. He know Peter is so much better then him..

He can't stand a chance, can't he ?

Just my frustrations ^^


your stupid for not trusting in hiro's power. of course hes going to charge with all that rage inside of him. maybe the rage is making him act a little hasty, but thats a common motif with revenge. i think hiro knows he can dodge any strike. don't go insulting hiro for having a little passion.
Rodders
what i think's gunna happen is...
next week will start with peter and adam in the paper factory (start of the last scene) then when it gets to the fight whats gunna happen is, hiro runs towards peter, peter attampts to zap him, hiro teleports behind peter and attacks adam, or summit similar
bignas1234
QUOTE(Da.Cu-Ba @ Nov 27 2007, 03:15 AM) *
Why is this crazy freak running towards someone who could release some 100-thousands of volts on him..

I don't get it.. He just says 'you have chosen the wrong side' and starts running..

really stupid.. He know Peter is so much better then him..

He can't stand a chance, can't he ?

Just my frustrations ^^


you don't know the end bit yet, you just saw him running towards Peter
maybe Hiro inteds to trick him and then teleport behind and threaten to chop his head off
duh...
Trixie Prower
I agree, he's probably overemotional, he didn't even take Ando with him he wanted to avenge his father quickly, how would you act if you saw your father fall off a ten story building by somebody also trying to doom the earth with a virus?
I'd be so ticked I wouldn't care if it was suicide as long as I could try my best to save the world.
yeah he was hasty though, he should have told peter "he's trying to release the virus!" not "I must avenge my father!" but I guess he was thinking more of his lost father and less about the virus.
Kaylen
QUOTE(Vikingisme @ Nov 27 2007, 09:16 AM) *
I think Hiro was running towards Adam (?)


I think so too. Adam was behind Peter, so it looks like he's running at Peter, but he's trying to get Adam. Of course, he'll have to get by Peter first. I hate it that Peter and Hiro are going to fight. They're my two favorite characters!
Kris
I think that Peter is too nice to kill Hiro. After all, Hiro helped him "defeat" Sylar, so, he must have some feeling inside him that doesn't want Hiro to die over this.

Peter will most likely only use defensive tactics. Nothing that will seriously harm Hiro, but enough to stop him.
Machy07
QUOTE(Kris @ Nov 27 2007, 08:11 PM) *
I think that Peter is too nice to kill Hiro. After all, Hiro helped him "defeat" Sylar, so, he must have some feeling inside him that doesn't want Hiro to die over this.

Peter is most likely only use defensive tactics. Nothing that will seriously harm Hiro, but enough to stop him.


i totally agree with you
i heard someone say that because hiro's power is the original one, his might be a little bit stronger than peter's absorbed power, what does everyone else think?
Timewalker
QUOTE(gfish @ Nov 27 2007, 11:06 AM) *
I think while Peter doesn't get caught in Hiro's time freeze, Hiro could still use his teleporting power to dodge any lightning bolts etc. that Peter may throw at him, that way Hiro would have a bit more of a chance. Unless Peter used his mind reading ability to know where Hiro was going. But then Peter's never been too bright.



Yep, I was just about to type that too. I think Peter might be able to forecast where Hiro was teleporting if he really tuned his Time powers, but it seems the ways the other heroes are developing their powers from constant use will take more time with Peter for the reasons that he uses many infrequently in comparison.
CoffeeDiva
quote] Yep, I was just about to type that too. I think Peter might be able to forecast where Hiro was teleporting if he really tuned his Time powers, but it seems the ways the other heroes are developing their powers from constant use will take more time with Peter for the reasons that he uses many infrequently in comparison.[/quote]


I agree, I think out of rage, Hiro will have an even greater edge over his ability and start teleporting all over coming after Peter in different ways, etc. And the fact that Peter has undeveloped time control will just make it cool to watch Hiro actually stand a chance.
sibmode
I dont think that Hiro is being stupid but its the writers. I mean they are trying to convince us that Hiro and Peter would just attack each other. I know they are trying to convince us that Hiro is burning with rage but come on. Surely with time frozen they have all the time in the world to explain each other's actions and fill in the gaps in their knowledge. Instead they just go for it. A bit unrealistic i think.
Machy07
it might seem abit stupid but i would rather see them in a showdown rather than just talking about it, i want more action tongue.gif
BrandonG
Can't understand why he would do something like that but can be able to realise and remember the time when Kensei healed from wounds so he couldn't age.
Bensisco
If Hiro has any sense he would have killed Adam when he (Hiro) went back in time to identify his father's killer and had the guy frozen on the roof. So, the writing could be a lot better (and a lot less fun).
boldizzle
QUOTE(Bensisco @ Nov 28 2007, 12:18 PM) *
If Hiro has any sense he would have killed Adam when he (Hiro) went back in time to identify his father's killer and had the guy frozen on the roof. So, the writing could be a lot better (and a lot less fun).


Pretty much what I was going to say. Or better yet, just go back to after the explosion at White Beards camp, search for Adam then decapitate his a**.
saz1
hiro don't want to change history
so he can't kill adam in the past
he can kill adam now...
Admiralkirk
The whole Hiro charging thing is just the episode cliffhanger -- after a little horsing around at the start of next week's episode, which shoul include the scene with Hiro holding his sword to Peter's throat, which we saw in last weeks preview, They will talk through it and stand down. I suspect Peter will have faith in Hiro based on past experience, and put the pieces together to realize that Adam is manipulating him.
hindude
QUOTE(GeneZ @ Nov 27 2007, 10:06 AM) *
hiro's power is headache, d***, what if hiro was in tokyo japan and suddenly stops time, will peter be frozen or will he be able to move? lol.
he'll be like, "WTF? i didnt make you stop?" its like having 2 controllers on a television. lol.

peter's driving on the high way and time suddenly stops blink.gif haha...imagine that...speedometer says 65 but i'm not moving...
Vitamin D
Didn't the sword shine or something when Hiro was charging at Peter? Perhaps the sword has some unexplain powers?

QUOTE(boldizzle @ Nov 27 2007, 04:52 PM) *
Pretty much what I was going to say. Or better yet, just go back to after the explosion at White Beards camp, search for Adam then decapitate his a**.

You don't mean literally the butt right? Because...uh...that wouldn't kill him. laugh.gif
Silentsoto
QUOTE(Da.Cu-Ba @ Nov 27 2007, 03:15 AM) *
Why is this crazy freak running towards someone who could release some 100-thousands of volts on him..

I don't get it.. He just says 'you have chosen the wrong side' and starts running..

really stupid.. He know Peter is so much better then him..

He can't stand a chance, can't he ?

Just my frustrations ^^



Well Hiro can still teleport, and can use his powers a lot better that Peter. He's also more skilled than Peter, so their on equal footing. One has power the other has control ( and a really cool sword).

But i am curious if Hiro can time freeze Peter or do thier (similar/same/mimiced) powers cancel each other out?
hironakamatthew
QUOTE(Vitamin D @ Nov 28 2007, 04:55 AM) *
You don't mean literally the butt right? Because...uh...that wouldn't kill him. laugh.gif


lol I wonder if it is possible to decapitate one's a**...

...I suppose it depends on where you talk from :-p

and yes it is good to know that decapitation works on adam, although how he knows that is yet to be seen.
cbaby
QUOTE(Da.Cu-Ba @ Nov 27 2007, 10:15 PM) *
Why is this crazy freak running towards someone who could release some 100-thousands of volts on him..

I don't get it.. He just says 'you have chosen the wrong side' and starts running..

i'm thinking that hiro thinks he's stronger with the sword, so he ran.. as funny as it sounds.. tongue.gif

but i do like the whole hiro might teleport behind peter thing..
rig1015
QUOTE(Da.Cu-Ba @ Nov 27 2007, 03:15 AM) *
Why is this crazy freak running towards someone who could release some 100-thousands of volts on him..

I don't get it.. He just says 'you have chosen the wrong side' and starts running..

really stupid.. He know Peter is so much better then him..

He can't stand a chance, can't he ?

Just my frustrations ^^



Well it comes down to control; Hiro's ability, manipulating space-time, is under much greater control by Hiro than it is by Peter. That is a very powerful weapon stop time, move forward, backwards, etc. Hiro could easily stop dodge or avoid Peters attacks (if Peter can even attack and kill morally). But as we've seen every time Hiro uses his ability around Peter, Peter is unaffected by it, Peter just joins Hiro in the rift. Maybe Hiro really is stupid... should have tried understanding WHY Peter was with Adam, at least more than 2 sentences.
Heroine
I think he knows that Peter doesn't have the heart to kill him
Triton
Looks like Hiro's going to pull another 'Sylar' and stab Peter in the chest before he can even react wink.gif
Bensisco
QUOTE(saz1 @ Nov 27 2007, 06:39 PM) *
hiro don't want to change history
so he can't kill adam in the past
he can kill adam now...



You might be right. But, it seems that Hiro's dabbling in the past possibly caused these events in a sense. Plus, this is a recent event since they just had Hiro's father's funeral. So, why not kill Adam in the air over the roof as Adam kills Hiro's father? A number of people would be saved and Adam would not release the virus.
liam
if people have seen some prmo pics or videos you will see adam with his/hiros sword so it dont look good for hiro yay i am getting realy bored of him it just seems to be the same thing with him
Atheshar
I've always found it curious how Hiro always wants to use his ability. Because he can travel through time, he has been so focused on changing the past, rather than affecting the present that is unfolding around him. Hopefully this marks the start of a change in character for him.
punkbuster
I agree this is stupid. Just a lame excuse for the showdown. Why didn't Hiro explain things more? Why didn't Peter read Hiro's or Adam's mind to find the truth? I hope next season will make more sense.
hellblazer
The whole Hiro charging thing was a simple narrative device for the next episode of course they won't really fight because they are friends. It'll be the sword to the throat Adam is bad teleport back to Odessa in the 70's so Hiro can show Peter Adam's true intentions etc
Da.Cu-Ba
QUOTE(rig1015 @ Nov 28 2007, 12:24 PM) *
Well it comes down to control; Hiro's ability, manipulating space-time, is under much greater control by Hiro than it is by Peter. That is a very powerful weapon stop time, move forward, backwards, etc. Hiro could easily stop dodge or avoid Peters attacks (if Peter can even attack and kill morally). But as we've seen every time Hiro uses his ability around Peter, Peter is unaffected by it, Peter just joins Hiro in the rift. Maybe Hiro really is stupid... should have tried understanding WHY Peter was with Adam, at least more than 2 sentences.


Yh I was thinking the same.. But like we saw with Claude [invisible man], Peter joins the 'abilitie', so he could see Claude, like he can move with Hiro. He absorbs it and is quite immune for his oponents [or friends] power.

But I get the point a bit more.. I was overemotional to tongue.gif. Maybe Hiro teleports behind Peter.. But we saw time wasn't frozen when that should happen..

And I don't think Hiro will cut of Adams head. The writers are to weak to make up such a scene..

My couple of cents..
liam
well at the moment peters mind reding is like what matt had in the begining he is no were near the level matt is he can only read surface thoughts
brandonheat
Hiro is a bit average still with his time manipulation... he can pick and choose almost any time to go to as long as he has a reference to where he wants to go.. why did he choose primatech instead of 2 secs after his father was killed?... he already knew where adam monroe was.. why did he need to find him again?
Maldito Ninja
I imagining already Peter with the scar...that's all i'll say.
Petrelli Fan
QUOTE(Vitamin D @ Nov 27 2007, 09:55 PM) *
Didn't the sword shine or something when Hiro was charging at Peter? Perhaps the sword has some unexplain powers?
You don't mean literally the butt right? Because...uh...that wouldn't kill him. laugh.gif


That's what I think and...that's how I think Peter gets his scar.

LOL! I could so see Hiro going back in time to Feudal Japan and being like "Kensei, you killed my father! Prepare to die!" Then as Hiro charges at Adam, Adam turns tail and starts running away but gets nailed in the butt! laugh.gif That'd make me laugh if I saw it on screen, but I'm going with the theory that Hiro needs to chop off Adam's head. If the brain is separated from the body, I highly doubt that any powers will work.
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