There are somethings I'm missing, I'll have to go back and watch, but wasn't it an odd assortment of stuff?


There were 7 items including the virus, maybe each one representing a deadly sin, this show is very biblical at times.

Oh yeah VERY BIBLICAL. Did you see the brain? Now that was cool.

I don't think it will refer to the deadly sins, but I'm convinced what's in that vault will be very important.

Yeah the vault will be , I wonder if the subject will be touched upon in volume 3?

Hello all, first time posting on here.

My friend and I were watching and we noticed something in the vault that seemed familiar. There was a curvy dagger in one of the vaults there and it looked a lot like the one that's on the cover of the 9th Wonders that has St. Joan on it. You can see a good shot of St. Joan holding a curvy dagger when you see the guy burning the comic book in front of Monica. If it's supposed to be the same dagger, what could it mean?

Awesome observation.

Wow..! I thought ot was familiar, but I didn't connect it to St. Joan!
How awesome! xD

The 7 things were, playing cards (3 queens), a brain, a pyramid made of some black stone, a gold key, the curvy dagger, a horse figurine, the virus and a metal stand of some sort (in between the brain and the pyramid.

A few things spring to mind, what was in the box to the right of the one that was open, was it the virus, if so why was adams hand in the box with the key in it, was the virus just lying at the bottom of the box.

The metal stand could have held the virus, it looks the right shape to hold a test tube, and adam was looking to get the key or something else in the same box (he might have already picked it up and might be used in the next volume to get out maybe) we can probably assume adam knew what the things were because he worked for the company for so long.

If the virus was in the metal holder then there was still a box we couldn't see what was in it.

As mentioned before the things could be related to some of the characters, the curvy dagger to St. Joan, the horse to Kensei (looks Japanese, just wildly guessing though) the brain to Syler (or the brain could be from a past hero and Syler could find it and get the power/turn into next villain.

Just my speculations on it.

I like that idea =)

I reckon the items in the vault are Horcruxes to bring back Lord Voldemort!

Ok... in even more detail: the 3 cards are the Queens of Diamonds, Spades and Hearts, from left to right, with the Queen of Hearts on top (any significance to the Queen of Clubs missing?). Brain in a jar filled with a clear liquid. Some metal stand (it looks a lot like it would have held the virus). The black pyramid. The two rows above this there is the dagger, the horse (looks like a mini Trojan horse to me), the golden key and an empty box. I'm guessing that Adam was pretending to take the key to fool anyone who might walk in, and make them think he didn't have the virus yet... but he can't have been holding the virus firmly, look closely at his left hand... seems odd that he would hold it so loosely; if he dropped it by accident, then Hiro stops time, takes it, game over Adam. Also I think most people would have noticed, but the symbol appearing on Peter's hand as the ashes fall away? Any reason/significance?

All great theories here. Volume 3 is bound to open up all of these questions. Can't wait!

Dunno why Adam was reaching for the key but...

The horse figurine was more reminiscent of Chinese sculptures, rather than Grecian or Japanese.

The Queen of Clubs faces left (Spades is the only queen to face right), and is usually associated with growth, progress through effort, a business woman (at least in terms of cartomancy), and sometimes represents a woman of dark complexion who is a reliable friend and trusted adviser. Not saying that this has anything to do with anything, but i thought i'd mention it.

In my opinion...each item in the vault symbolizes the heroes in some way(old generation)

Virus- Victoria pratt
Playing cards- Linderman
Pyramid-??
Brain- Matt's Dad
Gold Key- Bob
Box- Angela petrelli- Literally "pandoras box??"
Dagger- ??
Horse- ?? Adam possibly?


Depending on the abilities of the older generation that we havent seen....


possibly?

I saw what you said about the dagger cause they really showed it on the cover of the magazine as it burned...

About the objects... it so sounds like the horcrouxes... Nice to know there are also some POTTER lovers around here!!! gr8!!! I dont feel lonely!!!

So that roome looked like a puzzle... like those are clue elements that if they were out in the open they would be soooo dangerous... What I want to say is that I dont think it is like a museum, I think those thing have to be locked! C'mon we all saw the door guarding them!!!

But what could they be... This image of that brain belonging to a body stashed somewhere... add a few drops of claires blood and presto!!! A new person came to my mind... but that would be tooo much, THOUGH in this past episodes we have been shown over and over again how magical Claires blood is!!!.

The cards reminded me of gambit!!! haha!!! No Xmen here please!!!.

I also saw that key and adam like reaching for it but I feel it wasnt like trying to cover up the fact he already had the virus... it seemed like he had found something he had no idea where it was... Do you understand what I say? like when you are looking for something and you find something else you had lost so long ago... He was curiously reaching, thats what I mean like "hey look where I come to find you...."

I also liked the old generation things... like maybe they all had to give something meaningfull or dangerous from them... Like victoria the virus cause she worked in that, though we dont know her power.... We only know BOBs and there is something golden... and we know Matt's dad and there is a brain... still... Im not sure

They have so much to explain... this looks like LOST they keep digging the hole deeper I dont know how they will come out...

... oh thats easy... some fly and some teleport!!! haha!!!!

...think there could have been more stuff in there? Most of the doors were closed...

oh, and I'm pretty sure that by "opening pandora's box," she meant that they were screwed if Peter tracked it back to them

really? i think angela was saying that she's going to use her super-strong telekinesis to kick some tail.

that's right. telekinesis. i said it.

oh and i'm glad some other people were thinking horcruxes...i know it may seem like a joke, but i think that may be possible. i think someone might be able to be brought back to life, if the need became dire enough, through one of the objects. i can't see such objects being as important as a world-decimating virus unless they had such power.

man...where's that Blue dog and a Thinking Chair when you need them?

i thought the same thing, i wonder if the cards are spragues? he looked a bit like gambit . Also this:

"A gambit is a chess opening in which something is sacrificed in order to achieve a better position."

doesn't that sound a lot like nathan's murder from the POV of angela petrelli?

awesome theory! it could possibly be

Couldn't peter have just phased them both through the vault. I guess it would have been to easy.

shhhh....you're being logical.

haha yeh! but the wall might have been too thick and peter's power might not have been strong enough. he got a nosebleed from using tk, imagine if he had tried to phase it and got stuck in it lol

that would have been hilarious

the items must be of some importance. if not they wouldnt be inside a vault that causes nosebleed to be opened. i have absolutely no idea what they represent, but all the above theories are great. somehow i just have a feeling that they might not pursue on the story of the items.

hey could that brain be linderman's?
maybe the compnay members wanted to keep a memorabilia or a souvenir .... ???/

um...wow. ew.

but on the plus side, Sylar could eat it and then learn to heal people =/

they should get sylar into the vault and let him figure out what those items mean. i'm sure he's good at figuring all these things easily.

i noticed the post of the dagger being st. joans.. did anyone notice, when peter was in the future on times square or whereever that was, the billboard with a picture of st. joan on it?

Linderman's brain got turned to mush by D.L. though.




Oh hey i just watched it agian today, and saw how Adam was reaching for the key, and one of the boxes was empty, so maybe Adam had already ravaged that empty box?
We all know it wouldn't be heroes if there wasn't some mystery, lol so besides the items we know nothing about, there's also one that we don't even know what it looks like and happens to be buried along with a 400 year old man that is basically immortal and buried alive in Japan somewhere.

The reason I mentioned that the "horocurxes" represented the 7 deadly sins was because Angela referred to "Pandora's box", lol does anyone know what was in Pandora's Box? =

I like the idea of the items representing different characters. Here are my thoughts:


Brain - Sylar

Dagger - I haven't verified this myself yet, but a lot of people say it resembles the dagger of St. Joan, so probably a reference to Monica.

Playing Cards - We have three queens of three different suits all together. This seems like an obvious reference to Niki's personality disorder, IMO. The Queen of Hearts is on top because Niki is the dominant personality, and she is the motherly, caring personality. The other two are Jessica (Queen of Spades) and Gina (Queen of Diamonds). There is no 4th personality, so that's why the suit of clubs is missing.

Pyramid - Possibly Molly. I'd have to see the pyramid again, but if is topped with the all-seeing eye, then Molly makes perfect sense.

The box, key, and horse I am not too sure on.

The best responses I heard so far, as to what was in pandoras box.

I loved the nikky and the cards explanation... lets think... the horse reminded me of some troyan thingy... and inside the trojan horse came a whole bunch of things... so maybe I can conect it with either Peter or Sylar meaning they look like something but they are filled with other things from other people you know what I mean? Sylar who ate everyones brain so his blood is crowded with others mutation... and Peter cause he has that natural hability!

In that case the brain could be matt...

The key... mmm, thats hard... I dunno... I can not invent anymore right now... my brain is tired!!!

I heard something about someone with the hability to control cocroches?? in another thread maybe someone would be so kind to explain that to me... Im so out!!!

I'm just thinking....well they gotta be foreshadowing something here

They can either tortue us viewers by not revealing us what those items are about

Or they can actually use those items to foreshadow what's happening in the next vol...

Maybe each item represent a future threat?

The brain....haha maybe its dangerous

and by Pandora's box, i thought she meant the vault lol

key is...err...was DL? Someone who could enter any room

i like the trojan horse theory for Peter.

the box...maybe the virus was just in that.

And by "opening Pandora's box," think of all that Peter can unleash upon the company when he finds out who killed Nathan.

...could anyone get some pics of the items so we could examine them easier?

Well mythologically speaking Pandora's box contained the seven deadly sins. I was being sarcastic when I asked, lol.

brain = nathan and peter's dads? LOL

imagine that s***. the craziest thing is if it contained the power of someone who use to have the power of peter. THE WE R ALL DOOMED!!!

didnt it remind you of that show the lost room?? dont know if anyone watched it but it was some sick a** minisires

i have a new thought , what if each item represents a different way ppl get abilities?

hmm. not agreeing on this one,
if the vault hasn't been touched for 30 years, how would the pyramid be molly and the brain be sylar?

the cards unlikely to be niki, if the company didnt "help" her, probably more personalities would appear.

Yes, I'm more attracted to the theory that the items in the vault belong/refer to the group of twelve: the virus of Victoria, the cards of Linderman, the key of Bob, ...

i'm def for the items being about the founders of the company.
although i like the niki and molly theory.

leve it with me and let me watch that episode again and i'll get back to you



edit : ok well i was over on sarmy and were talking about family historys and stuff and what if the brain dosen't repersent sylar but his dad? we know nothing of mr gray and we know that heroes breed heroes, claires parents nathan and meradith , nathen and peters parents, mollys dad, matts dad...sylars dad could have been part of the original company . you never know i meen linderman was and he was watching over niki and dl... in a paternal kind of gardian way. i kow i could be miles out but it came to me and i thought i would post it

Pez struck a nerve with that one, could mean a bunch of things.

Maybe the vault was like batman's batcave and they kept mementos and souvenirs from past adventures, break throughs (the virus), and especially villains. It would make sense to keep someone's brain since that is the source of their power, the same way Batman keeps Mr. Freeze's freeze gun. It would be something if the original 12 went up against papa Sylar. It might even be cool if he was actually referred to as "The Watchmaker" lol.

I'm sure there will be someone to poke holes in this makeshift theory- becuase there was never any reference or implication that he had powers, in fact it was said by Gabriel's mom that he "was just a watchmaker" not to mention if the company finally stop him why didn't they keep track of sylar, but any good writer can get around this. lol.

i don't know if this has been said but couldn't the cards belong to Arthur Petrelli?
I've seen alot of people who said his power was luck and that he kept winning card games.
Would make more sence than Linderman wouldn't it?

EDIT: crappy typing sorry lol

Wasn't DL involved with a gang of men who played poker...

Before they were killed by Jessica obviously!

Yeah, if you mean the guys Hiro and Ando were with.
The guys who got murdered while Hiro and Ando were in the bathroom.
Maybe one of them had ties to the company or something?

Maybe the vault was like batman's batcave and they kept mementos and souvenirs from past adventures, break throughs (the virus), and especially villains. It would make sense to keep someone's brain since that is the source of their power, the same way Batman keeps Mr. Freeze's freeze gun. It would be something if the original 12 went up against papa Sylar. It might even be cool if he was actually referred to as "The Watchmaker" lol.

I'm sure there will be someone to poke holes in this makeshift theory- becuase there was never any reference or implication that he had powers, in fact it was said by Gabriel's mom that he "was just a watchmaker" not to mention if the company finally stop him why didn't they keep track of sylar, but any good writer can get around this. lol.

This is just winging it, and i was sorta too lazy to actually read the rest of the posts, but its possible that the horse is litterally a trojan horse, that someone (maybe adam? maybe someone else?) put in the vault that would somehow help them get other things out. Maybe it's linked to someone who we've never seen's powers to allow them to move objects through space and time (sorta like hiro's power, only less badass)

i haven't fully analyzed the things in the vault and what they represent but one thing is for sure they are gravely important to either destroying or saving mankind or the super-humans!!! perhaps the vault itself is the pandora's box that angela petrelli was talking about!!!!

... and i agree, adam did took something from one of the vault boxes... and im still mystified by the "God-send" symbol. how come it appeared on peter's hand when the virus turned into ashes? is it an ominous sign than a bigger threat is coming? or perhaps that virus wasn't really destroyed but peter became the host to it and was now the biggest threat to mankind (as if he wasn't already, with the powers he have)... more mysteries

..... hahaha, i just thought that maybe someone with gambit's ability could appear since they had those cards in the vault.

in the vault i think all the items are related to the 12 and maybe clues to what thier powers are??

I actually don't believe this to be true... Why would they lock it in such a big vault?? I think the items are just dangerous (not even representing anything) just dangerous therselfs...like the virus, if that got in the open it would kill many, so its locked in the frigging big vault...For example if the playing cards got in the wrong hands they could get dangerous (not like Gambit ) but in another way (artur petrelli??)...the brain could get dangerous in someone's head ??
that's my 2 cents anyway

I think all the items will be symbolic of something (just not sure what). Possibly things from the past that signify important events or people, such as the dagger of St. Joan. The brain has to be related to Sylar somehow or someone with similar powers! Suresh senior stated that everything exists within the brain, even the soul if that does indeed exist so that could be the brain of a very important man or villain perhaps? Someone also mentioned earlier in this thread that if Syler were to get that brain he could use it to alter his own DNA n gain whatever power is within it; personally i think that is an awsome idea and could very well happen in Volume 3 because Sylar is going to cross paths with the company again at some point (as we know from the leaked footage).

As for the other items in that vault i have no idea what they could be used for as of yet. Guess we will just have to wait and see eh; whenever they decide to bloody show volume 3 that is.