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liam
so i am just throwing this out there what would you all like to see in the next part characters, story lines anything i personaly would like to see more off matt and the older generations i would also like to see nathen again lol
eriks
Great topic!

What I want to see it's one simple big plot in the story which they can work around.. and I hope and think that the creators are leaning towards it:

I want Heroes vs. Villains! now they have had two volumes where they've saved the world, now I want it to be a pure fight for survival.
Lenatalia
With it being titled "Villains" I want to see lots of villians throughout with maybe 3 (including Sylar) being there until the end as the bigger threats.

I'd like to see a man who can turn into cockroaches. wink.gif
The DOKTOR
Yeah, I want to see the Cockroach Man!
Atheshar
While I'd be satisfied with foregoing the cockroaches, I want to know how Peter and Matt are going to react... whether they'll go public... and if not, why the change of mind.
bignas1234
all i can say there is alot in store for volume 3, im getting the tingles just hearing the Heroes vs. Villains
part, i want a full out battle in this one, like in Xmen3
BultomanZ
I want a Venom-like villain with a lot of cool visual effects.
SleepingPhoenix
Good topic.

Something that has always struck me about Heroes, for all its comic-bookness, was one thing it consistently lacked: a bad guy with a strong personality. Yes, there is the company, but Bob is about the closest thing that comes to mind, now that Adam is gone and away.

Think Magneto. Its one of the ways i was expecting them to use West: he seemed obsessed with his specialness and abilities enough that he could be persuaded that he was better than non-special people. a la Pyro in X-2 (the best known example i can think of). But no, they threw that plot away by making him whiny.

Adam could have filled this part, and in a way he did, with the way he influenced the Founders of the Company. But we always guessed they would get rid of him by the end of Volume 2, and Sylar doesn't play nice with others, so it can't be him.

The show needs a bad guy, who's not a loner, that will last over several volumes...and maybe that person will get introduced in this one. I certainly hope so.


oh, and...come up with some better powers. Please. Muscle mimic, Technopathy, Compulsion, and telepathic nightmares are about the best powers they've come up with, while overusing Time/Space manipulation and regeneration to the point where they have become bland plot points. What about shadow phasing, or super speed, or something!
starwarsgeek
1. Sylar to start off as an anti-hero against the company (listen to how he said "someone did this to me? He's got some revenge in mind smile.gif) There are pleanty of ripe powers for him to take, including a telepath in a coma.

2. Kane being a new villain. I know that more-than likely, he was re-written into Adam, but Sylar needs some master-mind-type villain training. He did a pretty good job with Maya, but that's not even close to what Adam got done with Linderman, Maury, and Peter.

3. An evil empath

4. Tim Kring change his mind and add Uluru

5. Matt to start down the path to the darkside.

6. More field agents in the company; people like Noah and the Hatian are cooler than the bosses laugh.gif
dave6074
id also like to see some wicked new villians and they should have like a ringleader ot an "adam" type character who brings them all together..

the one problem i have with this is that if they were in a group...wouldnt Sylar just kill them and take there powers...???
unless there was i higher authority OR even if he wasnt part of the villians group??
any thoughts??
Idontwannabeasuperhero
QUOTE(starwarsgeek @ Dec 4 2007, 06:45 PM) *
5. Matt to start down the path to the darkside.

+1
He's on his way... the attack on (death of?) Nathan will set him off, I reckon.
starwarsgeek
QUOTE(dave6074 @ Dec 4 2007, 11:25 AM) *
id also like to see some wicked new villians and they should have like a ringleader ot an "adam" type character who brings them all together..

the one problem i have with this is that if they were in a group...wouldnt Sylar just kill them and take there powers...???
unless there was i higher authority OR even if he wasnt part of the villians group??
any thoughts??


If sylar got some mastermind training, then he'd probably like the idea of having an army, or even small group of allies.

just like Adam in that graphic novel: he was unbeatable, but still lost due to numbers.
Archis
can we have Candice back?
mr. peasant
QUOTE(Archis @ Dec 4 2007, 12:25 PM) *
can we have Candice back?


Well, one way of having her return is to set it up so that it is revealed that Sylar killing her had been an illusion on her part to fool Sylar into thinking he had escaped on his own and that she had done so under the orders of some higher power intent on manipulating Sylar for whatever purpose.
Unknow-hero
First up I want to say that I want a really good actor to play a villan...I know this show has some great ones already so I expect it to stick to that.

Ok.

I want to see a Villan that has powers like Peter only who has lived for around 1000+ years. Imagine the amount of powers and knowlege he/she would have. You could do endless things with a character like that also Peter and many other Heroes would have to fight togeather in order to kill them off. How great would it be if at the end of volume 3 around 10 Heroes had to take this mighty Villan head on. Awsome!!!! Also Id like it even if they done a acient cult of villans that are hell bent on ruling the world. And maybe they woud have high profile careers and want to be kept secret!!! Maybe they will take on Sylar to do there bidding!!! Obviously they would have to promise him power beyound his dreams.

Id also like to see Jesus....Yes Jesus himself!!! Maybe the stories in the bible where about this Hero who help people...after all he did alot of Hero type stuff with his powers. Maybe Jesus would be the Heroes Leader??? Heck lets bring in the devil while we are at it!!! Lets get tottally biblical!!!!
=James=
QUOTE(Unknow-hero @ Dec 4 2007, 09:13 PM) *
First up I want to say that I want a really good actor to play a villan...I know this show has some great ones already so I expect it to stick to that.


Having recently watched Beowulf, I have to say.. Anthony Hopkins biggrin.gif

I want Nathan to be alive. sad.gif
Strength
i for one do not want extraterrestial beings/animals no clingons and all that sci fi monster nonsense. humans only let the acting and writing carry the show...judging from the few questionable green screens..the SFX budget isn't that large.


What i do want is for Adam and Sylar to have some alliance of sorts if i have that i'll be happy and forgive any weird animal/other species characters

QUOTE(Archis @ Dec 4 2007, 02:25 PM) *
can we have Candice back?


only if its the original candice biggrin.gif
maxxann
QUOTE(liam @ Dec 5 2007, 12:04 AM) *
so i am just throwing this out there what would you all like to see in the next part characters, story lines anything i personaly would like to see more off matt and the older generations i would also like to see nathen again lol

I want Alejandro. he wasn't given a chance to fully develop his power. he can do what Maya can.
eriks
QUOTE(SleepingPhoenix @ Dec 4 2007, 07:31 PM) *
now that Adam is gone and away.


Adam could have filled this part, and in a way he did, with the way he influenced the Founders of the Company. But we always guessed they would get rid of him by the end of Volume 2, and Sylar doesn't play nice with others, so it can't be him.


Just to let you know, Adam will return, it's confirmed. And he will probably look for some allies now that he knows that Hiro match-up pretty well against him. Look for him to want revenge on Hiro and create a new Hero vs. Villain battle like Peter vs. Sylar.
EbRulz
What I really want to see is a new villain - or maybe Adam - create an army of villains(without Sylar) and soon decides to take on the 'Heroes'. Throughout the entire volume it seems the villains will win the bout. Then there's a brawl between Peter and the head honcho (would work better with a new villain) which Peter is set to lose, until...

DUN DUN DUN

Sylar comes in and helps Peter defeat the new villain!

It's the classic Anti-Hero role, where someone you didn't expect ends up saving the day (like Nathan in Volume 1). Plus, there's the added opportunity of Sylar betraying Peter and taking the new guys power at the end - that for me would be a brilliant ending to the Volume.

My two cents.
Mr.Mojo
What i really want to see, is a new believable villain like Sylar. There is a reason he is killing everyone, he wants their powers. Adam was more like i cant die, and i've seen so much s***, so lets get rid of everyone coz im sick of them. rolleyes.gif
Auxii
More Maya? smile.gif
Haha.
gfish
I'd Like the heroes to unite to stop the company or take it over in a way, and then have to face a united group of villians.

Different ones could take sides, cross paths on the way, and then at the end an epic battle.

Though this may take a few seasons.

OR

I'm thinking maybe a whole other level of Heroes. This season we found out about the Company Founders, maybe we could find out about another layer above them, that could take them under their wing and train them etc?
OverDose_
Bring back Jessica Collins for Sophia. She was supposed to be a mysterious women from the company, perhaps should could be a truly evil company member, and be the devil's advocate/rival of Elle. I can see the battles between those two, but she just needs a wicked power as well, perhaps water manipulation.

I want to see a young adolescent being manipulated by a baddie, just as someone had previously posted. We need a kid who uses his power to take advantage of people who can be manipulated as good or evil, whatever they choose. I suppose it would be something like Flash from Smallville.
mr. peasant
QUOTE(OverDose_ @ Dec 8 2007, 01:19 AM) *
I want to see a young adolescent being manipulated by a baddie, just as someone had previously posted. We need a kid who uses his power to take advantage of people who can be manipulated as good or evil, whatever they choose. I suppose it would be something like Flash from Smallville.


Actually, I can actually see this happening with Elle, in which she is manipulated by Bob, Bennet and Mohinder. Since all three of them are now in the Company, yet have very different sets of philosophies and motivations, it is likely that they might come to loggerheads over certain issues.
Machy07
i just want to see the ultimate showdown between good and evil biggrin.gif
Merp
I want Adam to come back and unite a group of villains, and then have them face off against the heroes. He seems charismatic and fits the leader role well.

I don't think Sylar would be a part of the group, though. Chances are he'd either be alone or even work for the good guys (for his own "reasons", of course).
Petrelli Fan
QUOTE(EbRulz @ Dec 7 2007, 02:11 PM) *
What I really want to see is a new villain - or maybe Adam - create an army of villains(without Sylar) and soon decides to take on the 'Heroes'. Throughout the entire volume it seems the villains will win the bout. Then there's a brawl between Peter and the head honcho (would work better with a new villain) which Peter is set to lose, until...

DUN DUN DUN

Sylar comes in and helps Peter defeat the new villain!

It's the classic Anti-Hero role, where someone you didn't expect ends up saving the day (like Nathan in Volume 1). Plus, there's the added opportunity of Sylar betraying Peter and taking the new guys power at the end - that for me would be a brilliant ending to the Volume.

My two cents.


I really like this idea...sounds kinda like S1, but better. I'm all for it! lol, when Sylar came in to help, Peter'd be like "what the freak?" biggrin.gif
Gatsby
I want to see Micah maybe go down a villainous path, think of his thoughts now.

He's always empathized that importance of heroism, and it's heroism that's supposedly gotten both of his parents killed. He does have a pretty powerful power considering the age we live in and it'll be interesting to see what he does now that the both of his parents are dead.

I'd also like to see more well choreographed fight scenes, I think in that aspect we've gotten ripped off, and that's my only qualm with Heroes, the fight scenes are always lame. The closest thing we've gotten to a good hero on hero was Hiro versus Peter, and even that was more of a spirieted debate between the two anyway.

The next time Peter and Sylar cross paths there better be more then a fist fight.
sibmode
Personally, i would like to see a secret government agency get involved in Heroes. the agency would be dedicated to the eradication of all heroes in order to keep people "safe" from the "threat" that people woth powers pose. This agency could be led by an ice cold bad guy (who we discover has powers) who later on becomes a deranged madman who wants to destroy the world. Because truthfully, the company was made up of like 5 guys and Bob one of the founders of the bloody company wanders around without any protection at all and Noah nearly killed him. How realistic is that. He is supposed to be as inaccessible as Linderman.
GeneZ
more bloody villains. smile.gif like vol. 1 full of blood!
Vitamin D
QUOTE(Petrelli Fan @ Dec 9 2007, 11:08 PM) *
Oh hell no!!! Keep the Petrelli's alive! Kill Matt...he's annoying me lately.


With the new "villians" being listed, I just had a thought.

What if Bob, with his power, has lost control and has no way to really regain his composure.....and he gets a bit lonely.....then he becomes.








GOLDMEMBER!!
Petrelli Fan
QUOTE(Vitamin D @ Dec 9 2007, 11:16 PM) *
With the new "villians" being listed, I just had a thought.

What if Bob, with his power, has lost control and has no way to really regain his composure.....and he gets a bit lonely.....then he becomes.
GOLDMEMBER!!


I think you must've lost your sanity...
Vitamin D
QUOTE(Petrelli Fan @ Dec 9 2007, 11:17 PM) *
I think you must've lost your sanity...


Not true. You, first, have to have it in order to lose it. tongue.gif

Back on topic, what if the villians found out about Adam and try to rescue him?

What if some "regular" people joined with them? Like they just hate the world but don't have powers? Maybe some kind of scientist or weaponsmith tries to build the villians something to end the world?
Petrelli Fan
QUOTE(Vitamin D @ Dec 9 2007, 11:21 PM) *
Not true. You, first, have to have it in order to lose it. tongue.gif

Back on topic, what if the villians found out about Adam and try to rescue him?

What if some "regular" people joined with them? Like they just hate the world but don't have powers? Maybe some kind of scientist or weaponsmith tries to build the villians something to end the world?


It's possible that the villains may want to help Adam, but I think it's a long shot that some regular people would help the villains....I just don't think that would happen.
Vitamin D
QUOTE(Petrelli Fan @ Dec 9 2007, 11:25 PM) *
It's possible that the villains may want to help Adam, but I think it's a long shot that some regular people would help the villains....I just don't think that would happen.


I think it could happen based on the fact that it would be difficult for the writers to come up with Super Powers.

With a scientist, I think it would be crazy if someone found out how to "create" the gene that's going through everyone so instead of the Shanti virus that took it away....it could give it to people?
Petrelli Fan
QUOTE(Vitamin D @ Dec 9 2007, 11:29 PM) *
I think it could happen based on the fact that it would be difficult for the writers to come up with Super Powers.

With a scientist, I think it would be crazy if someone found out how to "create" the gene that's going through everyone so instead of the Shanti virus that took it away....it could give it to people?


But the Shanti Virus doesn't just take it away...it kills the person after some time.
Vitamin D
QUOTE(Petrelli Fan @ Dec 9 2007, 11:32 PM) *
But the Shanti Virus doesn't just take it away...it kills the person after some time.


I know but I'm just saying that it did take the powers away....what if something could be created to grant powers to people?

And the whole Bob/Goldmember thing.....you know that dude's johnson is definately Gold. I mean look at that dude, can you imagine a girl that would touch him like that? No polishing his bishop, no tongue-bathing the Willy Wonka, nothing.

So he just had to say hello to his monster here and there. I think he's Goldmember already.
Petrelli Fan
QUOTE(Vitamin D @ Dec 9 2007, 11:37 PM) *
I know but I'm just saying that it did take the powers away....what if something could be created to grant powers to people?

And the whole Bob/Goldmember thing.....you know that dude's johnson is definately Gold. I mean look at that dude, can you imagine a girl that would touch him like that? No polishing his bishop, no tongue-bathing the Willy Wonka, nothing.

So he just had to say hello to his monster here and there. I think he's Goldmember already.


I wouldn't be surprised if it had a dealy result as well...

God! laugh.gif lol, I think it's time to go now... XD
matty
seeing as "natural" disasters and terrorism are such a frequently occurring thing these days i think it would be fair to have a group of villains (similar to the company in experience/knowledge of powers). this group goes around following an agenda set possibly by a recent villain whi is now burried, the cause mayhem using powers, and survive through ruthless acts of violence to steal and pillage areas before falling underground out of harms way to sleep & feed etc... and id like to see how some of the current heroes act to stop them, and how some are led into their ways, micha being one of them, in his current situation he may feel rebellious. maybe even fighting monica as she survived.

id also like to see how matt/peter go after nathans killer and how they try to bring the company down, but id rather they didnt go public. just my 2p. id also like to see how other poeple with duplicate powers use them, as i liked wests peter pan style flying to contrast nathans super sonic style.
The Haitian Sensation
what i would like to see in this volume is some new characters that are villains maybe the start of the volume should be like the start of season 1 except with the villains discoverin thier powers dry.gif
Petrelli Fan
QUOTE(Petrelli Boyz @ Dec 14 2007, 11:33 AM) *
what i would like to see in this volume is some new characters that are villains maybe the start of the volume should be like the start of season 1 except with the villains discoverin thier powers dry.gif


That could be a cool idea...as long as we still get to see the Heroes in each episode tongue.gif
Vitamin D
QUOTE(Petrelli Fan @ Dec 14 2007, 11:36 AM) *
That could be a cool idea...as long as we still get to see the Heroes in each episode tongue.gif


What if we don't even see the Heroes until later?

Or at all?
oxymoron.
I'd like to see more into the 'Company', and being introduced to more agents.
And lots of Sylar-ness too. - drool -
Klenotka
I want Nathan to be a leader of the "good guys" biggrin.gif Thatīs all. biggrin.gif

But seriously, I would to see that and then some more, new bad guys. I think itīs time to move away from Sylar. He is good but...well, I think we can find some other villains, too. I think if Nikki/Jessica came back, it might be interesting storyline also for Micah (finally) and life lesson. And with Nikki/Jessica on the "wrong side", wouldnīt be cool to see her interactions with Nathan (again? Yes! We need Nathan biggrin.gif ).

And, answers to such questions like why is Kenseiīs sign as logo of Petrelliīs company. What power did members of older generation have? Who are the other people on the photo? (there were two more). And I canīt forget...Maya could go away. She doesnīt have to die...just leave...please? unsure.gif
Ando
QUOTE(oxymoron. @ Dec 17 2007, 03:53 AM) *
I'd like to see more into the 'Company', and being introduced to more agents.
And lots of Sylar-ness too. - drool -

i think were going too be seing a lot more sylar after watching the preview ohmy.gif
TH3 JOK3R
QUOTE(Hiro and Ando @ Dec 17 2007, 03:35 PM) *
i think were going too be seing a lot more sylar after watching the preview ohmy.gif


Yeah apparently a lot of Volume 3 is based around the Sylar man; which im loving! Because of the strike he will have more free time for filming becuse he will have finished playing young Spok in the new Star Trek film; so i gues you could say the srtike is a blessing in disguise. tongue.gif As for the other villains i think it would be cool if there was a villain to be the nemisis of each hero, like Adam and Hiro and Peter and Sylar. That would be aswome. laugh.gif
SuperHiro18
I wanna see Sylar kick some a**. I want to see Angela and Kaito's powers respectively. I know Kaito apparently has more than one.

Sylar JPC
Kaito's power if he has one would have to be shown in a flashback.
SuperHiro18
QUOTE(Sylar JPC @ Jan 10 2008, 01:10 AM) *
Kaito's power if he has one would have to be shown in a flashback.

Probably.
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