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Vorenus
Peter could have given nathan his blood to save him when he got shot.

a. He knew that adam's blood cured him.

b. he knows he can regenerate

c. its an automatic function so he dosent have to think about it for it to happen.

just seems sillly that he wouldnt even try it out.
CoffeeDiva
I think the blood has to be injected, and I don't think he carries seringes casually... wink.gif

also, miracle blood is a tad trite, doncha think?> huh.gif
Triton
QUOTE(Vorenus @ Dec 4 2007, 05:48 PM) *
Peter could have given nathan his blood to save him when he got shot.

a. He knew that adam's blood cured him.

b. he knows he can regenerate

c. its an automatic function so he dosent have to think about it for it to happen.

just seems sillly that he wouldnt even try it out.

Peter is unbelivably stupid. He raves on and on how Adam saved his brother when he fails to realise that his own blood can do the exact same thing. Peter also knows that he has the same ability as Adam but fails to make the connection. Let's hope that Peter recognises this soon and revives Nathan before he is buried or something and is too late.
Maldito Ninja
Peter could go back in time 10 seconds and save Nathan.

But that boy is dumb, I tell you, DUMB. tongue.gif
gnoxyz
Yeah, I thought the exact same thing, Peter can save his brother's life with his blood, but I guess he's just dumb. And I hate the idea of Claire and Peter's blood being regenerative, now it looks as if no one could die angry.gif
Deus
Maybe he does and you just don't see it until the next Volume...
Archis
welll peter must've acquired adam's power too
but you know he's all worried and tensed and cryng that nathan's been s***
plus, he's stupid and he doesnt realize what he knows...that he coud mimic ablities...
timegeek
This came up in another topic:

Mayber Nathan can heal himself since he received Adams blood about two months ago. Could Adam's blood still be in his system, and still be able to heal?
Triton
QUOTE(timegeek @ Dec 4 2007, 08:51 PM) *
This came up in another topic:

Mayber Nathan can heal himself since he received Adams blood about two months ago. Could Adam's blood still be in his system, and still be able to heal?

No because earlier we see Nathan smashing his hand against a mirror, and those cuts didn't heal.
maxxann
QUOTE(Vorenus @ Dec 5 2007, 09:48 AM) *
Peter could have given nathan his blood to save him when he got shot.

a. He knew that adam's blood cured him.

b. he knows he can regenerate

c. its an automatic function so he dosent have to think about it for it to happen.

just seems sillly that he wouldnt even try it out.

nathan isn't dead.

You heard on the news they reported that he was shot... not shot and killed.
msmarvel
or maybe it's because Adrian Pasdar wants to direct the musical he helped write and create a show for kids with his wife and can't do it all so they wrote him out of the show like he asked.

Ascendancy
Jesus, we only saw like 20 seconds after him being shot. As CoffeeDiva said, it's not like he's just going to pull out a syringe and inject his brother the second he was shot. There's going to be some time of shock. Also, this whole "He could've gone back 30 seconds and moved Nathan!" ect. stuff is just getting old. Yeah, Peter/Hiro could go back in time and stop every bad thing from ever happening, but it would make the entire series a boring chunk of crap. If it would happen that way nothing interesting would happen and there would be no cliff hangers because we'd all know that the next episode would fix everything.
maxxann
QUOTE(Ascendancy @ Dec 5 2007, 01:44 PM) *
Jesus, we only saw like 20 seconds after him being shot. As CoffeeDiva said, it's not like he's just going to pull out a syringe and inject his brother the second he was shot. There's going to be some time of shock. Also, this whole "He could've gone back 30 seconds and moved Nathan!" ect. stuff is just getting old. Yeah, Peter/Hiro could go back in time and stop every bad thing from ever happening, but it would make the entire series a boring chunk of crap. If it would happen that way nothing interesting would happen and there would be no cliff hangers because we'd all know that the next episode would fix everything.

plus, Peter has not mastered his time travel ability. He can't even go back to bring caitlin back. he still messes up the time travel thing.
Heroine
I bet Peter would save him if he could but i dont think he has a syringe lying anywhere... maybe nathan will be saved in volume 3..
rea_d_ace
i wouldn't be so interesting if peter use his blood to save nathan straight away...if he did so then it would be in volume 3....of course the writers need to make us curious...
The DOKTOR
Hey, give the guy a break, he didn't get to watch the show a few times and think afterwards of what he should have done wink.gif . His brother just got shot, let him at least get over the shock...
J.U.N.C
lol exactly dude its not like hes gonna go omg he jus got shot ill heal him right now. did you see peters face!?! my face did exactly the same thing when nathan got shot .
meg is love
I've been reading about this whole thing lately on Heroes Wiki.
Anyone else think it's possible that Peter's blood won't save people because it's not truly his power?
I mean, it would make sense if Peter can heal himself but not necessarily anyone else.
Kris
QUOTE(meg is love @ Dec 5 2007, 09:54 AM) *
I've been reading about this whole thing lately on Heroes Wiki.
Anyone else think it's possible that Peter's blood won't save people because it's not truly his power?
I mean, it would make sense if Peter can heal himself but not necessarily anyone else.



This would be a good point, because technically, Peter has a form of mimicry. He's copying the ability to make his cells regenerate, but if the blood is out of his body, he might not be able to mimic the regenerative properties. Whereas Claire and Adam have it in their DNA, and that follows the blood out of the body.
-sparky-
QUOTE(Archis @ Dec 5 2007, 04:42 AM) *
welll peter must've acquired adam's power too
but you know he's all worried and tensed and cryng that nathan's been s***
plus, he's stupid and he doesnt realize what he knows...that he coud mimic ablities...


What on earth causes the word 'shot' to be asterisked?!!!
Jayranger
Peter is an empath, he absorbs abilities like a sponge, I'm not sure his blood would help the issue. Plus it's the emotional horror of seeing your brother getting shot multiple times in front of you...anyone?
Jester
For the most part Peter has to consciously decide to activate his stored abilities. Healing isn't one of those, it only becomes active when Peter gets injured. The way I see it his blood can't heal another person because unless Peter himself is injured, his blood doesn't have healing properties.
Atheshar
In season 1 Mohinder and Nathan had a chat about Peter and his abilities. I'm working off of memory here, but I believe Mohinder said that Peter's DNA reorganizes itself whenever he comes into contact with a person with a new ability - and that this constant reorganization could be a source of instability (read: going nuclear). However Peter's DNA doesn't just code for his empath ability - it really changes, picking up the abilities of anyone else around him and hard-wiring them into his DNA.

Given that, it seems very likely his blood has healing powers.
dave6074
lol and yeh we still dont know wat Peter did afterwards as they only showed him getting shot and nothing else.
So peter could still save him but we dont know yet..

have to wait for volume 3....
ludejim
number one, it is TV and ANYTHING can happen. For all we know Nathan could be wearing a bullet proof vest because parkman read the killers mind and knew it was going to happen.

I think that Nathan got shot for a reason. Like he has another acting gig or he just didn't fit into the story anymore. He helped convince Peter to stop Adam and that was the last thing he will do on the show.

I like Nathan and his power, i just think that his time has come.
meg is love
QUOTE(-sparky- @ Dec 5 2007, 11:38 AM) *
What on earth causes the word 'shot' to be asterisked?!!!


Spoiler?
I don't even know....
maxxann
QUOTE(Atheshar @ Dec 6 2007, 04:11 AM) *
In season 1 Mohinder and Nathan had a chat about Peter and his abilities. I'm working off of memory here, but I believe Mohinder said that Peter's DNA reorganizes itself whenever he comes into contact with a person with a new ability - and that this constant reorganization could be a source of instability (read: going nuclear). However Peter's DNA doesn't just code for his empath ability - it really changes, picking up the abilities of anyone else around him and hard-wiring them into his DNA.

Given that, it seems very likely his blood has healing powers.


wow. good memory you got there biggrin.gif
Triton
Nathan aside, what Peter should've done was find out who the assassin was before he/she camly left the scene. Peter might've been in a state of shock and grief but I'm sure the question of the identity of the shooter was definitely on his mind. If Peter was smarter and more adept with his abilities, he could've stoped time in a hiro-esque fashion or turned invisible or the like to easily discover and maybe even take down the shooter. However it seemed Peter was in such disbelief and distress that he didn't bother to even peer over his shoulder to steal a glimpse of the shooter.

When Peter does come back to his senses, lets hope that he is clever enough to go back in time and reveal the identity of the shooter, just like how Hiro was bright enough to figure. It'll make his thirst for vengeance so much easier wink.gif
maxxann
QUOTE(Triton @ Dec 6 2007, 11:22 AM) *
Nathan aside, what Peter should've done was find out who the assassin was before he/she camly left the scene. Peter might've been in a state of shock and grief but I'm sure the question of the identity of the shooter was definitely on his mind. If Peter was smarter and more adept with his abilities, he could've stoped time in a hiro-esque fashion or turned invisible or the like to easily discover and maybe even take down the shooter. However it seemed Peter was in such disbelief and distress that he didn't bother to even peer over his shoulder to steal a glimpse of the shooter.

When Peter does come back to his senses, lets hope that he is clever enough to go back in time and reveal the identity of the shooter, just like how Hiro was bright enough to figure. It'll make his thirst for vengeance so much easier wink.gif

I guess it's the brotherly love that got the best of him back there.
The DOKTOR
If my brother was shot right beside me, the first thing on my mind would be to check on his condition not who the shooter is, That's the job of the security guys around him...
But I've never had anybody shot right beside me so I wouldn't know how I would react...
Archis
QUOTE(-sparky-)
What on earth causes the word 'shot' to be asterisked?!!!


maybe i mistyped shot as s***...ahaha
o wait thats gonna ba asterisked too
Cylar
Please, in that scene, they barely showed Peter's reaction after Nathan was shot, it only showed a few seconds. We cannot assume that Peter will not use his blood to heal Nathan. Also, HRG was like DEAD (shot to the eye, its amazing he survived, he's like dead, and the bullet I believe would have reached the brain too... I guess they operated to remove the bullet from the brain before injecting? cos with something in the brain he can't awake.. like Claire and Peter could not), when the blood was given to him and he LIVED. So... Nathan, his shots may not even be fatal, he could survived with some operations. Or, Peter can just give him his blood some time later in the hospital.. when all the publicity and reporters and such are gone. I know their plan is to go public with powers, but I don' think Peter was ready to just heal his brother right there and then anyway... and he probably has not realised he could. But I believe he will, later on...

Vote Petrelli.
Save Nathan Movement.
dave6074
lol and we never know.... peter may heal nathan ......

we just dont know it yet...
Petrelli Fan
QUOTE(-sparky- @ Dec 5 2007, 09:38 AM) *
What on earth causes the word 'shot' to be asterisked?!!!


Maybe there was a typo? Maybe instead of an "o" you put an "i" by mistake? I almost did that once, but luckily I caught myself. laugh.gif
The Haitian Sensation
QUOTE(Vorenus @ Dec 5 2007, 01:48 AM) *
Peter could have given nathan his blood to save him when he got shot.

a. He knew that adam's blood cured him.

b. he knows he can regenerate

c. its an automatic function so he dosent have to think about it for it to happen.

just seems sillly that he wouldnt even try it out.

nathan isnt dead yet and i dont think peter has any syringes on him ( if his blood would woork) but he could go back in time and save him or stop time and find a syringe .
peter could do loads of things to save nathan lets hope he chooses 1 before its too late smile.gif
Ando
QUOTE(Petrelli Boyz @ Dec 15 2007, 05:10 AM) *
nathan isnt dead yet and i dont think peter has any syringes on him ( if his blood would woork) but he could go back in time and save him or stop time and find a syringe .
peter could do loads of things to save nathan lets hope he chooses 1 before its too late smile.gif

ovcourse peters blood would work regeneration is in his dna wink.gif
Petrelli Fan
QUOTE(Hiro and Ando @ Dec 14 2007, 10:54 PM) *
ovcourse peters blood would work regeneration is in his dna wink.gif

No...Peter's power is empathic mimcry or something along those lines. Peter absorbed Claire's regenerative ability, but that does not mean that regeneration is in his dna. If Nathan is going to be saved, I think we need to leave it up to the hospitals unless Mohinder has another phial of miracle blood.
Vitamin D
QUOTE(Petrelli Fan @ Dec 14 2007, 11:07 PM) *
No...Peter's power is empathic mimcry or something along those lines. Peter absorbed Claire's regenerative ability, but that does not mean that regeneration is in his dna. If Nathan is going to be saved, I think we need to leave it up to the hospitals unless Mohinder has another phial of miracle blood.


As much as I want to save Nathan and make sure he survives.....I can't help but to think it's not looking promising....
The Haitian Sensation
QUOTE(Vitamin D @ Dec 15 2007, 11:38 AM) *
As much as I want to save Nathan and make sure he survives.....I can't help but to think it's not looking promising....

peter could teleport somewhere to get a syringe and then teleport to back and try his blood on nathan
Petrelli Fan
QUOTE(Vitamin D @ Dec 15 2007, 04:38 AM) *
As much as I want to save Nathan and make sure he survives.....I can't help but to think it's not looking promising....


Tim said that Nathan and Niki's fates were "up in the air" so yeah...Nathan fans have already started campaigning for him to live on.
The Haitian Sensation
Peter cant save nathan because "we have the power of gods but we cannot play god!"
Nekobaghira
It is up in the air. The fate of his character hasn't been decided. But I hope they keep him alive. Save him some way.

Nathan is my fav and the show wouldn't be the same for me if he wasn't in it.

Quite frankly, even if they just had him in the hospital .. that would be fine.

Neko
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