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Silentsoto
Ok so something i notice early on in the episode were these weird camera angles, they were all in the third person perspective, and seemed to be blurry around the edges.

This seemed to only happen during the scenes that took place in the Hartsdale, NY facility of the company, (ex. when elle was getting "benched" by Robert Bishop, and in the holding cell scene with NOah)

It gave the feeling like someone was watching in on them, like a "fly on the wall", which might be and ominous nod to the next volume since there were talks about there being a character that was "..1000 years old, and can control insects." Who most likely will be a villain of course.

Maybe?

This same type of camera shot showed up again during Ando and Hiro's scene in his office. Again like someone was watching them, maybe the "insect man" wanted to find out where Adam was/is, in order to recruit him?
Maldito Ninja
I noticed that when Noah was talking to Elle.
Auxii
I notied this.
Though I was for some reason just looked passed it.
I thought it was just a camera angle..
The Bob scenes, both Noah and Elle are "reflected - seen?" through Bob's glasses.
So yeh. smile.gif
Deus
Yeah!... I noticed that too!... Wasn't sure what to make of it... It might have to do with Insect-Man...
Archis
well...there are been some rumor abt smeone with the power to control insects
Silentsoto
I figured it might be a subtle reference to the insect man, kind of like molly's reference to the Nightmare Man (Maury) in the last episode of last season one("how to stop an exploding man")
aurora51x
Wait... what?
How do you know about this insect man?
sindawg
interesting, maybe it has something to do with the large beetle shown at the end of Season 1 on the sewer grate and when Sylar killed that dude in Mexico. Insect man and Sylar associated? . . . . .
mitchyboi
ive heard alot about this insect man....but what i dont know is where the theory bout him came from, can someone please tell me where it came from...i remember hearing theories that adam was going to be the "thousand year old man), maybe he was supposed to be but it was changed becoz of the strike or something.......so confused
Raekon
The insect man were supposed to be Adam.
First they wanted him to be 1000 years old, immortal (what he still is but in a other way now), being able to ressurect (he still does but also in a other way then a ability), being the one that ressurect the DEAD sylar, being sylars mentor for the second season and being able to control bugs.

Due to the changes in the whole season two, they dropped this storyline and let the both being apart from each other.

Part of it was also the changes of Candices storyline that were supposed to be in several episodes together with Sylar.

They killed her off in one episode now to get rid of the character instead.
J.U.N.C
yeh i noticed that too in the 5 min preview the camera angle was like that but without the blurry effect. i think it mite have been added for some kind of secret purpose . ULURU MAYBE LOL i wish

and has everone like forgotten about the magical being who attacked angela it could have been that person.or claude even
meg is love
QUOTE(Raekon @ Dec 5 2007, 05:43 AM) *
The insect man were supposed to be Adam.
First they wanted him to be 1000 years old, immortal (what he still is but in a other way now), being able to ressurect (he still does but also in a other way then a ability), being the one that ressurect the DEAD sylar, being sylars mentor for the second season and being able to control bugs.

Due to the changes in the whole season two, they dropped this storyline and let the both being apart from each other.

Part of it was also the changes of Candices storyline that were supposed to be in several episodes together with Sylar.

They killed her off in one episode now to get rid of the character instead.


Wasn't the character supposed to be named Kane?
I definitely noticed that, especially when I was trying to notice if it was a security camera perspective.
Kris
I noticed that too, but I thought the character Kane, who was to be the insect man, was changed to Adam?
meg is love
QUOTE(Kris @ Dec 5 2007, 09:51 AM) *
I noticed that too, but I thought the character Kane, who was to be the insect man, was changed to Adam?

I don't know, I thought they were separate.

I like how we're sitting next to each other typing, and how Mr. Mick is reading this out loud.
Kris
QUOTE(meg is love @ Dec 5 2007, 09:58 AM) *
I don't know, I thought they were separate.

I like how we're sitting next to each other typing, and how Mr. Mick is reading this out loud.



I dunno. I read somewhere that Adam and Kane were one, and that they rewrote his plotline to make him what we know him as now.

And, yhus! Haha. Screw talking outloud. We must talk via forum's. And Josh is just jealous of our awesomeness.
-sparky-

I noticed it and thought 2 things...

Either it was done for dramatic effect...

Or the person who ripped it and made it available for download didn't record it properly!!
dave6074
isnt there a like loads of large beatles in season 1 with most of the scenes with Sylar ?? i noticed that and i noticed this...
could they be connected ?
meg is love
QUOTE(dave6074 @ Dec 5 2007, 03:50 PM) *
isnt there a like loads of large beatles in season 1 with most of the scenes with Sylar ?? i noticed that and i noticed this...
could they be connected ?


Probably not because I don't think Kring and Co. were thinking that far ahead...
but it's possible!
maxxann
QUOTE(meg is love @ Dec 6 2007, 09:06 AM) *
Probably not because I don't think Kring and Co. were thinking that far ahead...
but it's possible!

actually, the insects are all over the story - in the graphic novels, in the series... particularly in Molly's dream where Sylar turned into a pillar of cockroach.
Silentsoto
QUOTE(J.U.N.C @ Dec 5 2007, 06:49 AM) *
yeh i noticed that too in the 5 min preview the camera angle was like that but without the blurry effect. i think it mite have been added for some kind of secret purpose . ULURU MAYBE LOL i wish

and has everone like forgotten about the magical being who attacked angela it could have been that person.or claude even


That magical being was Maury, this was explained by Matt in the penultimate episode of volume 2.


QUOTE(-sparky- @ Dec 5 2007, 08:42 AM) *
I noticed it and thought 2 things...

Either it was done for dramatic effect...

Or the person who ripped it and made it available for download didn't record it properly!!


Well I watched the original run of it twice so far (gotta love DVR) and that's where i came up with this.


QUOTE(meg is love @ Dec 5 2007, 05:06 PM) *
Probably not because I don't think Kring and Co. were thinking that far ahead...
but it's possible!



Kring is the man, he's 4 seasons and who knows how many volumes ahead of us, he's gone on the record an stated that he has a path of where he wants to lead this saga for at least 5 seasons so far.
Cylar
It'd be cool if he does 5 seasons, then later... well, many years later, Heroes lives on, just like Star Trek. With new cast, new heroes, new plots... Like Star Trek, y'know... The Original Series, then The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine... etc. I would like to see Heroes go on forever like Star Trek... It would be nice if they stuck with the current characters, but if somewhere along the way, they want to introduced a whole new set, like a whole new story and whole new series, I don't think it will be too bad?
Silentsoto
QUOTE(Cylar @ Dec 5 2007, 08:34 PM) *
It'd be cool if he does 5 seasons, then later... well, many years later, Heroes lives on, just like Star Trek. With new cast, new heroes, new plots... Like Star Trek, y'know... The Original Series, then The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine... etc. I would like to see Heroes go on forever like Star Trek... It would be nice if they stuck with the current characters, but if somewhere along the way, they want to introduced a whole new set, like a whole new story and whole new series, I don't think it will be too bad?



You know i never thought of it that way, but you never know, we might be witnessing history here!!
Silentsoto
did anyone ever find out if the insect man really was supposed to be Adam.
Archis
QUOTE(Silentsoto)
did anyone ever find out if the insect man really was supposed to be Adam.


hmmm.....then maybe he'll summon his army of earthworms and termites to bite/chew away the coffin and the earth!!! biggrin.gif
Yuen
Archis where did u get ur picture from???

and why is Mohinder having that weird smile?? what is that img all about?? wth

thanks tongue.gif
maxxann
QUOTE(Yuen @ Dec 11 2007, 10:03 AM) *
Archis where did u get ur picture from???

and why is Mohinder having that weird smile?? what is that img all about?? wth

thanks tongue.gif


They're just goofing around the set.
herlepras
QUOTE(Yuen @ Dec 11 2007, 07:33 AM) *
Archis where did u get ur picture from???

and why is Mohinder having that weird smile?? what is that img all about?? wth

thanks tongue.gif


Check out

http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/

Mr.Beemans blog is the place to be if you wanna get all the goody goody pics,
of course with his trademark goofy captions!! tongue.gif
LOTS of pics for almost eevry episode

TH3 JOK3R
I have not heard much of this insect man although iv herad rumours that Sylar will get a mentor in Volume 3 called Kane and he is supposed to have a biblical power? would that be the insect man? connected to the plague of locusts? i don't know im confused lol anyone help clear things up for me? blink.gif
TH3 JOK3R
QUOTE(Carp @ Jan 6 2008, 02:15 PM) *
Ah, for the last time, that was the original plan for Adam. Maybe the whole Cockroach thing will be incorperated into another character but that will no longer happen. Please read the rest of this thread and other ones, possibly.


Shall do young squire! There seems to have been a lot of changes to Volume 2...would be interesting to see it how it was originally meant to be...like in a DVD bonus or something; obviously never gunna happen its just wishful thinking on my behalf!
TH3 JOK3R
QUOTE(Carp @ Jan 7 2008, 10:21 AM) *
What is it with you and "Young Squire"? Anyway, I would love for there to be a deleted storylines bit on the DVD kinda like on the alternate pilot if anyone saw that. With the Muslim guy who, I presume, was going to take the place of Ted.


haha i dunno young squire is just a saying i guess; much like "have a biscuit" tongue.gif As for the alternate pilot for volume 1 yeah i seen it; would have been interesting to see how that worked out but i guess the whole terrorist issue was just too close to home for the American writers and public.
SuperHiro18
QUOTE(Silentsoto @ Dec 4 2007, 07:51 PM) *
Ok so something i notice early on in the episode were these weird camera angles, they were all in the third person perspective, and seemed to be blurry around the edges.

This seemed to only happen during the scenes that took place in the Hartsdale, NY facility of the company, (ex. when elle was getting "benched" by Robert Bishop, and in the holding cell scene with NOah)

It gave the feeling like someone was watching in on them, like a "fly on the wall", which might be and ominous nod to the next volume since there were talks about there being a character that was "..1000 years old, and can control insects." Who most likely will be a villain of course.

Maybe?

This same type of camera shot showed up again during Ando and Hiro's scene in his office. Again like someone was watching them, maybe the "insect man" wanted to find out where Adam was/is, in order to recruit him?

I will have to re-watch, I didn't notice!
SuperHiro18
Yeah...I don't think it would be important...
TH3 JOK3R
QUOTE(SuperHiro18 @ Jan 8 2008, 04:14 PM) *
Yeah...I don't think it would be important...


I agree...probably just people thinking too much into minor details.
boy_unplugged
THAT'S WHAT THE FORUMS ARE FOR THOUGH.

READIN WAY TO FAR INTO THINGS THAT DON'T MATTER!
SuperHiro18
QUOTE(boy_unplugged @ Jan 10 2008, 02:20 PM) *
THAT'S WHAT THE FORUMS ARE FOR THOUGH.

READIN WAY TO FAR INTO THINGS THAT DON'T MATTER!

We are just getting our point across. No reason to get mad.
Auxii
Reading into minor things is fun. smile.gif
Gets your mind busy.
boy_unplugged
just like acid. tongue.gif
SuperHiro18
Acid isn't fun!
boy_unplugged
i loooooooooove acid. angry.gif

Urza Soulforge
tsk tsk tsk...

Shrooms 4 eva! lol
Silentsoto
what happened to good old fashioned pills and smokes!! lol
TH3 JOK3R
QUOTE(Silentsoto @ Jan 13 2008, 09:50 PM) *
what happened to good old fashioned pills and smokes!! lol


Times are changing eh! Our generation just isn't "hip" anymore sad.gif
TH3 JOK3R
QUOTE(Carp @ Jan 15 2008, 03:25 PM) *
Losers... biggrin.gif Don't do drugs, kids!!!


And stay in school!
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