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realwish
to be honest, i was really disappointed when maya revived.......


but, from the view of the writers, letting maya die will be a slapping on their own face for what maya has done which wasted our time.....
maxxann
QUOTE(realwish @ Dec 6 2007, 09:06 AM) *
to be honest, i was really disappointed when maya revived.......
but, from the view of the writers, letting maya die will be a slapping on their own face for what maya has done which wasted our time.....

Maya will live because there won't be a hot babe in the series anymore considering that Nikki died. LOL

and also, Molly will have a new mom!!! LOL (again) laugh.gif
Auxii
LOL @ The people who wanted her to die.
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She lives! biggrin.gif
hindude
QUOTE(realwish @ Dec 5 2007, 08:06 PM) *
to be honest, i was really disappointed when maya revived.......
but, from the view of the writers, letting maya die will be a slapping on their own face for what maya has done which wasted our time.....

honestly, when maya came back to life, it was a pretty big disappointment.
cbaby
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honestly, when maya came back to life, it was a pretty big disappointment.

i agree.. i was a little shocked when sylar suddenly shot her but still i thought it was a bummer when they brought her back..

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Maya will live because there won't be a hot babe in the series anymore considering that Nikki died. LOL

monica is easy on the eyes too.. wink.gif
bestsane
There must be a Latina flavor in the series. I'm tired of blondies. She can't die!
Heroine
Reviving Maya just made it seem like the miracle blood can be used everytime someone dies.
J.U.N.C
already posted a comment like this but it had alot more people really hating her lol
The DOKTOR
QUOTE(Heroine @ Dec 6 2007, 05:12 AM) *
Reviving Maya just made it seem like the miracle blood can be used everytime someone dies.

Of all the goofs, loopholes, continuity errors and what nots anybody can find about Heroes, the one things that really really bothers me is the use of the miracle blood. I'm afraid the show might have jumped the shark if they keep reusing it...
Primum
QUOTE(The DOKTOR @ Dec 7 2007, 06:15 PM) *
Of all the goofs, loopholes, continuity errors and what nots anybody can find about Heroes, the one things that really really bothers me is the use of the miracle blood. I'm afraid the show might have jumped the shark if they keep reusing it...


To be fair, they have been using it for the last season - Claire, Peter.

The idea was even used in X-men, where Wolverine gave a sick Morlock a blood transfusion to heal her from an incurable disease.

I quite liked Maya's place in the story - Sylar is driven by an evolutionary imperative, one of the main drives of such a thing is the drive to reproduce. When he abandoned her to cure himself, it needed to be more strained in my opinion - although, by that point he may have decided that it was a wasted effort as she was so polarised against him.

With a dead brother, and being with Mohinder, Molly and Elle.. she'll probably stay on to be a sort of surrogate mother for Molly, helping Mohinder with his work.

The good thing about Heroes has always been that it isn't episodic, but works with long story arcs - Maya is a perfect example of this. She will come in to her own later on, but for now she helped with Sylar's (more Gabriel's) character development. Sylar and Gabriel are two distinct elements of the same person, with Sylar being the powerful, driven side of him and Gabriel the more gentle side of him, as shown by his interactions with Maya (and, also, his mother) as she understands him.

Just because she didn't exactly help with the action greatly doesn't mean she wasn't vitally important to the growing character of Sylar, making him more than a psychopath and more human, more flawed - hell, even making him likeable.
starwarsgeek
QUOTE(The DOKTOR @ Dec 7 2007, 09:15 AM) *
Of all the goofs, loopholes, continuity errors and what nots anybody can find about Heroes, the one things that really really bothers me is the use of the miracle blood. I'm afraid the show might have jumped the shark if they keep reusing it...


yeah, 3 whole times
Melissa78
QUOTE(realwish @ Dec 5 2007, 09:06 PM) *
to be honest, i was really disappointed when maya revived.......
but, from the view of the writers, letting maya die will be a slapping on their own face for what maya has done which wasted our time.....


Hayden,Ali,Kristen,and even the girl who play's Monica is and will always be prettier than Maya in my opinion they always were....Claire yeah has her annoying moments but she is definitely not as annoying as Maya Maya whines more than Molly..... Like another poster said and I agree with them and sorry to all the women here no offensebecause I am a woman too but Maya is always PMSing and needs Midol 7 days a week, 365 days a year 366 if you count that leap year every 4 years sorry folks but it is the truth........ cool.gif

Ali comes back in S3 ...
maxxann
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Dec 18 2007, 01:32 AM) *
Hayden,Ali,Kristen,and even the girl who play's Monica is and will always be prettier than Maya in my opinion they always were....Claire yeah has her annoying moments but she is definitely not as annoying as Maya Maya whines more than Molly..... Like another poster said and I agree with them and sorry to all the women here no offensebecause I am a woman too but Maya is always PMSing and needs Midol 7 days a week, 365 days a year 366 if you count that leap year every 4 years sorry folks but it is the truth........ cool.gif

Ali comes back in S3 ...


Oh man! Not again.... (groans)
The Haitian Sensation
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Dec 17 2007, 05:32 PM) *
Ali comes back in S3 ...

is this a fact or are you just hoping this??

i hope she deosnt i hate her character
i wouldnt mind if all three (niki, monica and micah) died in that fire
Melissa78
QUOTE(Petrelli Boyz @ Dec 18 2007, 04:14 PM) *
is this a fact or are you just hoping this??

i hope she deosnt i hate her character
i wouldnt mind if all three (niki, monica and micah) died in that fire


From eonline:
This came from Ali's mouth "According to Heroes insiders, Niki is not expected to return to the show. But her devilish alter ego Jessica? Oh yeah, we'll see her as soon as the show comes back to the beloved airwaves, when the strike is through! At least, that's the current plan according to sources, who tell me producers had "done all they could do" with Niki. Micah is not gonna be happy. "

So whether she is Niki, or Jessica looks like she is back that .......




maxxann
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Dec 19 2007, 12:20 PM) *
From eonline:
This came from Ali's mouth "According to Heroes insiders, Niki is not expected to return to the show. But her devilish alter ego Jessica? Oh yeah, we'll see her as soon as the show comes back to the beloved airwaves, when the strike is through! At least, that's the current plan according to sources, who tell me producers had "done all they could do" with Niki. Micah is not gonna be happy. "

So whether she is Niki, or Jessica looks like she is back that .......


(again) NOT AGAIN! (groans again.)
Melissa78
QUOTE(maxxann @ Dec 19 2007, 04:45 AM) *
(again) NOT AGAIN! (groans again.)


Yep again I was hoping she defended that woman last season but I guess not guess people have to deal with her again as well as the whiney little Maya...Oh crap!.......
-sparky-
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Dec 19 2007, 04:20 AM) *
From eonline:
This came from Ali's mouth "According to Heroes insiders, Niki is not expected to return to the show. But her devilish alter ego Jessica? Oh yeah, we'll see her as soon as the show comes back to the beloved airwaves, when the strike is through! At least, that's the current plan according to sources, who tell me producers had "done all they could do" with Niki. Micah is not gonna be happy. "

So whether she is Niki, or Jessica looks like she is back that .......


I told you that with her beaver-teeth she'd gnaw her way out...
Melissa78
QUOTE(-sparky- @ Dec 20 2007, 06:13 AM) *
I told you that with her beaver-teeth she'd gnaw her way out...



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boy_unplugged
Nikki at least has a rack...

Maya is flat.

Monica is Jail Bait and people who say she's hot are sick.

and claire only looks good from behind.
melody
as a straight girl, i will disregard the last post haha

but long story short, i was not happy maya was revived. if they cant make her storyline stronger for the rest of the season, she needs to go.
Melissa78

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Maya is flat.


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I am a straight girl but that is funny....

melody
all u can do is laugh hahahaha
Melissa78
QUOTE(melody @ Dec 24 2007, 12:27 PM) *
all u can do is laugh hahahaha



Yeah because I am not a fan of the Maya character ....
melody
me either. im so mad she was brought back to life.
Melissa78
QUOTE(melody @ Dec 24 2007, 01:31 PM) *
me either. im so mad she was brought back to life.



Yeah so was I...
boy_unplugged
yeah me too...

I mean if they had her using falsies the whole time, and i didn't get a look at those bee stings she may have a chance.

but Nikki's at least a C cup. That's decent.
Archis
soooo...let me get this str8...

the girl with the biggest boobs gets to stay and teh rest has to die?
Melissa78
QUOTE(Archis @ Dec 25 2007, 01:43 PM) *
soooo...let me get this str8...

the girl with the biggest boobs gets to stay and teh rest has to die?



No just the most annoying one Maya. Claire can stay in my opinion....Monica is boring but she can stay too...I would rather watch the boring character than the most annoying one who's mouth I would love to tape shut for the whole hour every Monday at 9pm until 10 pm.......
tm45
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Dec 18 2007, 11:20 PM) *
From eonline:
This came from Ali's mouth "According to Heroes insiders, Niki is not expected to return to the show. But her devilish alter ego Jessica? Oh yeah, we'll see her as soon as the show comes back to the beloved airwaves, when the strike is through! At least, that's the current plan according to sources, who tell me producers had "done all they could do" with Niki. Micah is not gonna be happy. "

So whether she is Niki, or Jessica looks like she is back that .......

It's probably in a dream sequence or "past" episode or a nightmare if it's Jessica (who's already gone) and not Niki.
Melissa78
QUOTE(tm45 @ Dec 25 2007, 02:53 PM) *
It's probably in a dream sequence or "past" episode or a nightmare if it's Jessica (who's already gone) and not Niki.


The actress made it very clear She was in Volume 3 Season 3 whatever we are calling it right now So did another poster who posts at Heroes-tv.com who also works a Niki myspace page the poster tole me. So I think I go with the actress and the the poster sorry to say this but they know more and better than the rest of us....
tm45
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Dec 26 2007, 01:43 PM) *
The actress made it very clear She was in Volume 3 Season 3 whatever we are calling it right now So did another poster who posts at Heroes-tv.com who also works a Niki myspace page the poster tole me. So I think I go with the actress and the the poster sorry to say this but they know more and better than the rest of us....

Yeah, she could be IN the season, the same way D.L. was IN episodes 7 and 8 of last season... as a nightmare, and a flashbeck ep, but he was still dead.
Melissa78
QUOTE(tm45 @ Dec 26 2007, 05:06 PM) *
Yeah, she could be IN the season, the same way D.L. was IN episodes 7 and 8 of last season... as a nightmare, and a flashbeck ep, but he was still dead.



Well like I tell all the posters here...To Believe what they like...I believe the actress and the one Heroes-tv.com poster because they know the truth and they shared it...?......

Take Care Now
maxxann
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Dec 27 2007, 10:02 AM) *
Well like I tell all the posters here...To Believe what they like...I believe the actress and the one Heroes-tv.com poster because they know the truth and they shared it...?......

Take Care Now

actually, even if maya was annoying because of her whining and crying, she was the most honest character in the series. That was how she is: dependent on her brother, a cry baby, easily feels guilt. She cries because she feels guilty, and she feels guilty because she's very religious, she's very religious because she's a christian (or catholic considering she's from latin america which was influenced by the spaniards who brought christianity).

So she cries. So what?

She's definitely not flat. Nope nope nope.

Let Nikki die already. please.
tm45
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Dec 26 2007, 09:02 PM) *
Well like I tell all the posters here...To Believe what they like...I believe the actress and the one Heroes-tv.com poster because they know the truth and they shared it...?......

Take Care Now

I'm not saying that they're lying, I'm saying your misinterpreting their words. Jessica (and Ali Larter) APPEARS in the season; this doesn't mean she's alive during it. Think of D.L. in season 2 or Chandra in season 1.
Raekon
How about you guys give her a chance first?
It was obvious that the writers have more for her to do in volume 3 and probably had even more for her on the actual volume 3 named "exodus" which was replaced by volume 4 (Villains) now.

Other than that when you say she was whiney only because she wasn't comfy by killing everyone around by a single cry without being able to stop without help, then you obvioulsy either didn't looked good enough or didn't care to look behind the character at all.

Think how you would react in her position! Most of all if were grown up like her (very religious and closed).

On top of that, Claire was whiney for TWO SEASONS and you guys don't say anything similar but Maya is in a few episodes of a volume and you already want her dead? dry.gif

maxxann
QUOTE(Raekon @ Dec 27 2007, 04:05 PM) *
How about you guys give her a chance first?
It was obvious that the writers have more for her to do in volume 3 and probably had even more for her on the actual volume 3 named "exodus" which was replaced by volume 4 (Villains) now.

Other than that when you say she was whiney only because she wasn't comfy by killing everyone around by a single cry without being able to stop without help, then you obvioulsy either didn't looked good enough or didn't care to look behind the character at all.

Think how you would react in her position! Most of all if were grown up like her (very religious and closed).

On top of that, Claire was whiney for TWO SEASONS and you guys don't say anything similar but Maya is in a few episodes of a volume and you already want her dead? dry.gif

WELL SAID, RAEKON. KUDOS!
tm45
I agree, Maya may not be a very developed character as of now but her power is incredible, so we should give the writers a chance to do something with her.
Skippy
Personally i hated maya. i hated both of those mexicans. They were just thrown in there for no reason. I say maya should have fallen instead of Nathan on nikki.
boy_unplugged
sound like you are more upset about maya and her brother's illegal trip into our country than her small knockers.

i agree.

they shouldn't have shown more illegals that it's easy to get here.

I'm so sick of canadians and mexicans trying to get into our counrty without green cards.

we need to have those green cards so we know who those border hoppers are.

and anyways... i bet Maya would be horrible at wifely duties too. KILL HER!

and Mohinder.

just because he's a pussy.
Melissa78
QUOTE(maxxann @ Dec 27 2007, 01:53 AM) *
actually, even if maya was annoying because of her whining and crying, she was the most honest character in the series. That was how she is: dependent on her brother, a cry baby, easily feels guilt. She cries because she feels guilty, and she feels guilty because she's very religious, she's very religious because she's a christian (or catholic considering she's from latin america which was influenced by the spaniards who brought christianity).

So she cries. So what?

She's definitely not flat. Nope nope nope.

Let Nikki die already. please.




QUOTE(tm45 @ Dec 27 2007, 02:25 AM) *
I'm not saying that they're lying, I'm saying your misinterpreting their words. Jessica (and Ali Larter) APPEARS in the season; this doesn't mean she's alive during it. Think of D.L. in season 2 or Chandra in season 1.



QUOTE(Raekon @ Dec 27 2007, 04:05 AM) *
How about you guys give her a chance first?
It was obvious that the writers have more for her to do in volume 3 and probably had even more for her on the actual volume 3 named "exodus" which was replaced by volume 4 (Villains) now.

Other than that when you say she was whiney only because she wasn't comfy by killing everyone around by a single cry without being able to stop without help, then you obvioulsy either didn't looked good enough or didn't care to look behind the character at all.

Think how you would react in her position! Most of all if were grown up like her (very religious and closed).

On top of that, Claire was whiney for TWO SEASONS and you guys don't say anything similar but Maya is in a few episodes of a volume and you already want her dead? dry.gif



Anyway!....

QUOTE(boy_unplugged @ Dec 28 2007, 12:50 PM) *
sound like you are more upset about maya and her brother's illegal trip into our country than her small knockers.

i agree.

they shouldn't have shown more illegals that it's easy to get here.

I'm so sick of canadians and mexicans trying to get into our counrty without green cards.

we need to have those green cards so we know who those border hoppers are.

and anyways... i bet Maya would be horrible at wifely duties too. KILL HER!

and Mohinder.

just because he's a pussy.
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It does not bother me at all because people from different countries come to America. If this is where they like to live that is fine...I have nothing against people from different countries or different color skin...
maxxann
QUOTE(Melissa78 @ Dec 29 2007, 10:55 AM) *
Anyway!....

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It does not bother me at all because people from different countries come to America. If this is where they like to live that is fine...I have nothing against people from different countries or different color skin...

Well said!

I couldn't agree with you more. It doesn't matter what nationality goes to what country, it's a free world! Ok, so if americans go to mexico, would you like to be discriminated there as well? In the show, they were able to cross the border because maya used her power. Hello? it's not that every mexican has a power to let them across the border. And their purpose of going to the US was not to work illegally, it was like a desperate move to find a cure for themselves. They will stop at nothing just to make themselves or maya for that matter, better.
besides Maya told sylar when they were alone in the grass at the motel, she said when they find dr. suresh and cures her, she and her brother can go back to mexico to their lives... so who said maya is desperately wanting to go the US?
Aerdna
On the issue of portraying illegal immigration, they're not encouraging the act of "border hopping", they're just showing that it happens, period. And whether you're for it (rather, comfortable with it), or against it, we all can agree that it happens.

maxxann
QUOTE(Aerdna @ Dec 30 2007, 12:50 PM) *
On the issue of portraying illegal immigration, they're not encouraging the act of "border hopping", they're just showing that it happens, period. And whether you're for it (rather, comfortable with it), or against it, we all can agree that it happens.

Agree.
SuperHiro18
The whole Maya Aledranjo (spelling!) and Sylar storyline was sh*te-house!
I think Sylar was very boring but in the last 2 eps was awesome!!!
I'm excited him to be a real evil villain!

Maya...(depite me hating her)may have a chance. Her power is very weid...and awkward but now has control!

But she is boring!!! She better have a good storyline with the other characters!!!
Klenotka
QUOTE(Heroine @ Dec 6 2007, 02:12 AM) *
Reviving Maya just made it seem like the miracle blood can be used everytime someone dies.



And it made impossible to use the blood for Nathan because people would say that itīs overused. And if someone should be healed by blood, itīs Nathan, not this yelling, whinning, crying, Alejandro yelling unlikeable woman.

We have seen the black eyes so many times without any point. She yelled "Alejandro", started to cry, and then ran. Then she yelled "Alejandro", started to cry and then ran...wait, did she really do still the same? rolleyes.gif

Seriously, if they wonīt give her some storyline (what was her storyline-to bring Sylar to Mohinder? Didnīt Sylar bring her to him?) I think that her presence there will be pointless. It might be interesting to watch her to learn control herself....just not in every episode, please. rolleyes.gif
Auxii
QUOTE(Klenotka @ Dec 31 2007, 02:16 AM) *
And it made impossible to use the blood for Nathan because people would say that itīs overused. And if someone should be healed by blood, itīs Nathan, not this yelling, whinning, crying, Alejandro yelling unlikeable woman.

We have seen the black eyes so many times without any point. She yelled "Alejandro", started to cry, and then ran. Then she yelled "Alejandro", started to cry and then ran...wait, did she really do still the same? rolleyes.gif

Seriously, if they wonīt give her some storyline (what was her storyline-to bring Sylar to Mohinder? Didnīt Sylar bring her to him?) I think that her presence there will be pointless. It might be interesting to watch her to learn control herself....just not in every episode, please. rolleyes.gif


Seeing as Alejandro is gone.. Guess it'll now be.. "Mooohiiinnddderrrr!!"
Haha, but i'm glad I get to see more of her character!
Bad-a** Maya anyone? biggrin.gif
maxxann
QUOTE(Auxii @ Dec 31 2007, 06:44 AM) *
Seeing as Alejandro is gone.. Guess it'll now be.. "Mooohiiinnddderrrr!!"
Haha, but i'm glad I get to see more of her character!
Bad-a** Maya anyone? biggrin.gif


One please! laugh.gif
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