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tonynz
Who killed Nathan?
String Theory
Your Mum.

Seriously, we don't know yet and there's already a couple of threads about it on this board.
One_Hiro
I think all signs point to a new character, with Noah being in California at the time frame that Nathan got shot, it would be hard to explain how in the world he got from California to Texas so fast. Secondly, the shooter wore all black, and a hat. On one of the casting calls for Volume 3 they have a call for a male, age 30-35, who wears a ball cap, with distinctive facial features. <---Exactly like the shooter.
-sparky-
QUOTE(One_Hiro @ Dec 9 2007, 08:49 PM) *
On one of the casting calls for Volume 3 they have a call for a male, age 30-35, who wears a ball cap...


They had to put out a casting call for someone who specifically wears a cap?!!!
Are actors who don't wear caps allowed?

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Merp
It's obviously Zombie Linderman.
oxymoron.
I have a feeling it's a new character, or even yet, an ally of Nathan's, or maybe even Nathan himself. o:
Archis
if the future nathan kills his past self...he'll himself die..so it CANNOT be future nathan...

but the past nathan can work...if the past nathan kills future self...he wont die
Bennet
Actually, I think Jack Coleman let the cat out of the bag on this one by accident...

He specifically mentioned that he had finished doing some re-shoots for Episode 11 because of the writers strike, and we know that one of the major rewrites went from:

Nathan collapses from the virus...

To...

Nathan is assassinated.

Considering Coleman was there for re-shoots, that's pretty strong evidence in favour of him being the shooter.

And for people saying how the heck did he get there so fast; we already have one character who can teleport and bend space and time; is it really that hard to believe the Company has access to someone similar?
The Haitian Sensation
QUOTE(Bennet @ Dec 17 2007, 08:15 PM) *
Actually, I think Jack Coleman let the cat out of the bag on this one by accident...

He specifically mentioned that he had finished doing some re-shoots for Episode 11 because of the writers strike, and we know that one of the major rewrites went from:

Nathan collapses from the virus...

To...

Nathan is assassinated.

Considering Coleman was there for re-shoots, that's pretty strong evidence in favour of him being the shooter.

And for people saying how the heck did he get there so fast; we already have one character who can teleport and bend space and time; is it really that hard to believe the Company has access to someone similar?

well actually there was a change in HRG and claires story aswel so he could be doing reshooting for the any of the scenes he had in powerless
boy_unplugged
I think it could have been anyone.

heroes have the ability to shapeshift as well.

anything is possible in this show.

But I'm pretty sure Nathan has been shot twice.

but you never know if that even happened.

it could have been some one pretending to be nathan.

like Hiro could travel to 1996 and stop 2pac from getting shot....

maybe then the world wouldn't be in such shambles.






i mean more people care about a writer's strike than their own war overseas.

we need some more real heroes. like 2pac
maxxann
QUOTE(Bennet @ Dec 18 2007, 04:15 AM) *
Nathan is assassinated.

Considering Coleman was there for re-shoots, that's pretty strong evidence in favour of him being the shooter.

And for people saying how the heck did he get there so fast; we already have one character who can teleport and bend space and time; is it really that hard to believe the Company has access to someone similar?


Nope. It couldn't be him. The shooter certainly doesn't walk like HRG. besides, it's too obvious.

SAVE HRG MOVEMENT!
boy_unplugged
It was definately claire's dad.
melody
if bennet is the shooter......wooow.
-sparky-
QUOTE(boy_unplugged @ Dec 24 2007, 08:57 AM) *
It was definately claire's dad.


*Bookmarks this post so I can shoot you down in flames when it turns out NOT to be Claires dad...*
Skippy
i think it was either Noah, he was forced to work for the company so ergo he killed nathan, or the Hatian, just a thought wink.gif.
boy_unplugged
Uh...

Nathan is Claire's Dad... so you are wrong you dolt!
maxxann
QUOTE(boy_unplugged @ Dec 29 2007, 01:07 AM) *
Uh...

Nathan is Claire's Dad... so you are wrong you dolt!

So what were you trying to say?

That you were merely saying Nathan is Claire's dad? yea, we know, don't you?

ck22
The shooter is definitely not HRG, come on people, they wouldn't resurrect him for this, I think Bob has bigger plans for him. And also the shooter doesn't look like anything like Jack Coleman. He looked more like West! tongue.gif I mean, the shooter was thinner and shorter than HRG.

Jack Coleman returned to the set for the Bennet family reunion scene. HRG wasn't going to be resurrected in the 9th episode. But the producers-writers decided to resurrect him in this episode. I guess they were afradi of the fan reactions. Kristin Veitch from Eonline wrote about this.

As a HRG fan, I don't want him to be the assasin. I hope HRG stays in the Company. If Heroes continue for another 3 or 4 seasons, I think the writers will make him the "new" Thompson.
tm45
I would be shocked if it wasn't a new character.

However, someone from the future/past would be cool. HRG would be a disappointment.
SuperHiro18
They did say future Hiro was returning...maybe him.
Doesn't look like him though!
My best theory is a new character or Future Peter.

What a twist if it was Future Peter!
ck22
Wasn't there a spoiler about this? I remember reading about a casting call for a new character. Probably a new character will be the assasin.
SuperHiro18
QUOTE(ck22 @ Dec 30 2007, 05:06 PM) *
Wasn't there a spoiler about this? I remember reading about a casting call for a new character. Probably a new character will be the assasin.


Did the casting call say it was the assasin?
Can you provide a link please?
maxxann
QUOTE(SuperHiro18 @ Dec 31 2007, 09:02 AM) *
They did say future Hiro was returning...maybe him.
Doesn't look like him though!
My best theory is a new character or Future Peter.

What a twist if it was Future Peter!

there's a thread about this already. sorry.
ck22
QUOTE(SuperHiro18 @ Dec 31 2007, 03:27 AM) *
Did the casting call say it was the assasin?
Can you provide a link please?



Have a look at this:

Heroes wiki spoilers

Scroll down till you see the date 10/13. Or here is the spoiler:

A 30- to 35-year-old male with distinctive features who wears a baseball cap. He is an agent working for "a very powerful organization".
TH3 JOK3R
People have suggested its Claude because he is returning but the fact that you can see the assassin proves it obviously is not him. Also, if it was future Peter surely he would be way too powerful to use a simple hand gun; he could think of a less conspicuous way to do it using some of this absorbed powers. Also, the fact that Angella knows about it suggests to me that its not anyone from the future but more likely someone from the company. Im just assuming its a new character and this storyline is how they are being introduced.
My_Name_Is_Sylar!
When I saw the person walking away, I couldn't help but think it was Sylar. Then I saw the other two scenes (Angela talking about it and Sylar in an alley getting his powers back).

The fact Angela was talking to someone about it implies it was someone from the Company. MAYBE Mr. Bennet? He is working for them again. Although, it's a fair argument that Bennet was in California at the time (or so we think). But we saw how the Company reacted when Claire was gonna go public and Bob threatened to hurt/kill Claire to contain her. It has to be the Company...

It might be a new character too (the most likely of all).

StryderSylar202
Completely crazy thought:

Mr. Petrelli is the shooter (Peter and Nathan's dad!) who's actually still alive!!!
That's the reason why the picture of the founders which Matt has does not show his face properly!!
He actually did not commit suicide and its a plan by Angela and The Company for him to work behind the scenes.

Its a completely random thought based only on the single thing of the blurred face

O and HRG is not possible because he's supposed to be in California when the shooting takes place
PatientZER0.1
the assassin looks a bit younger when you look at it in the back
so it couldnt have been hrg
melody
i hope they dont keep us guessing....i hope tim has learned from season 2 ratings so far that this time round we dont want any unnecessary characters and dragged out problems. anticipation is okay to a certain point until it gets annoying
Peterfangirl20
Some people say it could be Future Peter. Now before you go and say no, never!!!
Maybe Future Nathan does some thing in the future that is bad, maybe say this whole tell every one about there powers things causes some damage in the future. Maybe it all goes to Nathans head in the future he tells every one to hunt all his loved ones including his brother. So Future Peter comes back in time, he doesn't kill present Nathan just woonds him. Maybe Future Peter knew just wear to shoot Nathan so he doesn't die but just stops him from telling the people about the powers, to destroy the horrible future. Now if present Peter finds this out he'd crack and ask why, Future Peter takes present Peter to see what happens. Hey I think it would be a cool idea. Sorry LOL Got it off of the TV.Com forums, but it does kind of look like Future Peter from the back.

Edit;

Ask for the mom talkin to the killer...Well I was thinking maybe its Future Sylar...Although why would he be talking to the mom hmmm...Course if it was Future Peter he could tell his mom that he had no choice, maybe he tolled her the future and had to do it. If it was a random character from the Companey I'd be so disapointed dry.gif
Euphoria's Tragedy
The man who was walking away from the crowd looked exactly like HRG! I have watched that scene so many times, freezing it at multiple moments trying to figure out who it was. He walks like HRG and he has what appear to be the exact same glasses!! I could be wrong, and if i am wrong then i would be more than happy, but my vote is that Noah did it. I like him but i don't fully trust him. With the offer that Claire would be safe, Noah would do ANYTHING to protect her. Which is admirable but a very high cost for others.

I am very eager to see Claire reaction to this, or if Noah hides it from her.

sad.gif I hope the future is bright for Nathan (and not in that 'walk towards the light' sort of way lol) Nathan is my favorite character and it was truly be a waste of decent acting and character development to have him bow out this early in the series. Maya on the other hand.... ugh.
ian
Here are the reasons it was NOT Mr. Bennett

1: Mr Bennett knows Nathan is Claire's biological father. So if he shoots Nathan its basically like asking "Claire, Can you never listen or talk to me again?"

2: He was in Texas at that time with Bob at the company. And even though, he works for the company now, he wouldn't kill Nathan.

3: The Camera in the room with the Strain of the Virus caught everything on tape, so it was either someone from the company, or a new hero.

4: The Volume 3 title is Villains. So probably it will be a new villain that shot Nathan that worked for the company.
TheHunterPTX
It could be anyone of the company including one of the founders: Bob or Arthur since we never saw him we have high chances to see him.
Or can be the people from the future that it was a thing needed to be done before something bad happened (it is less likely to happen).

Red Eye on the Sky
i really really think it was mr petrelli (nathan and peter's dad) like what that other guy said (im so sorry i forgot his name)
Leila
Well i guess there is a possibility like that but I doubt it.I think that the killer should be a person from the company...or something like that
Claude Rains
remionded me of sylar in season one before we found out the backstory.

besides, the actor could have been HRG's actor, but not meant to be HRG
Aztec
It's Sylar.

The Haitian Sensation
QUOTE(Aztec @ Mar 12 2008, 12:08 AM) *
It's Sylar.


too tall! Zach Quinto is only 5 ft 8
Aztec
QUOTE(Carp @ Mar 12 2008, 04:29 AM) *
Oh, that's great proof, yeah. It's not like anyone's ever took a screenshot of that scene before! dry.gif rolleyes.gif


As far as I know, which isn't very far-look at my posts, nobody changed the brightness.
Aztec
QUOTE(Carp @ Mar 12 2008, 08:41 AM) *
I'm sure someone in the world has changed the brightness before. In fact, I have.


Okay. >.>
Leila
I hope that the killer isn't Sylar that would be too easy unless Peter is going to revenge him.There is soo much not answerd questions in the second season that is kind of hard to wait for the third season
Leila
Thanks for correcting me sometimes I make some mistakes.It's a pity that this season was shorter because of writers strike I allways kept on guessing what would be the end of a season if there wouldn't be a writers strike but what is the point of this I really don't know.Regrettably third season isn't going to be released soon so my summer is going to be long unfortunately.But as you said all the questions is the essence of a cliffhanger so we just can continue guessing how all the story should end.
doubleshiny
QUOTE(The Haitian Sensation @ Mar 12 2008, 01:56 PM) *
too tall! Zach Quinto is only 5 ft 8


He's 6' 2" actually but I still don't think it's him. I don't think the person in the screenshot will be the same person who actually shot him, they might not even have been cast at that point.
Bennet
Crazy new, no proof theory: It's Thompson's son.

Just throwing that fish out there before some one else does.
avanika777
IMO, it could be Donna. That's why Elle, in the GN, says that she could be useful!
What do you think?
doubleshiny
I read somewhere that it's a character who appeared in Season One. I can't remember where I saw that now but I'm sure it was leaked.
nic_nac
I think it would be claude, if he used his ability to vanish, everybody would know who he was and probably why he did it; to claw his way back into the reforming company.

Another theory is the fact that it may even be Angela Petrelli, she seemed distraught in the scene afterwards, not moved or upset.... Also, she was wearing black clothing possibly just like the killer's apparel....

Sylar is in the alley gaining his powers back....

HRG is in California sorting out his own stuff....

That's just me though...
Aztec
QUOTE(nic_nac @ Apr 22 2008, 10:00 AM) *
I think it would be claude, if he used his ability to vanish, everybody would know who he was and probably why he did it; to claw his way back into the reforming company.

Another theory is the fact that it may even be Angela Petrelli, she seemed distraught in the scene afterwards, not moved or upset.... Also, she was wearing black clothing possibly just like the killer's apparel....

Sylar is in the alley gaining his powers back....

HRG is in California sorting out his own stuff....

That's just me though...


I doubt he'd return to the Company. To him they're just "them bastards".
doubleshiny
QUOTE(nic_nac @ Apr 22 2008, 07:00 PM) *
I think it would be claude, if he used his ability to vanish, everybody would know who he was and probably why he did it; to claw his way back into the reforming company.

Another theory is the fact that it may even be Angela Petrelli, she seemed distraught in the scene afterwards, not moved or upset.... Also, she was wearing black clothing possibly just like the killer's apparel....

Sylar is in the alley gaining his powers back....

HRG is in California sorting out his own stuff....

That's just me though...


Unless it's someone from the future...
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