sylar2killpeter
Dec 29 2007, 03:47 PM
possible spoiler
http://scottking.info/blog/2007/12/05/hero...llains-spoiler/i was just browsing and i came accross this, what do people think, i think it sounds pretty cool.
tm45
Dec 29 2007, 04:35 PM
So they are two actual people? That seems pretty lame. Especially since Jessica is supposed to be gone after season 1.
maverickmadge
Dec 29 2007, 09:36 PM
QUOTE(tm45 @ Dec 29 2007, 07:35 PM)

So they are two actual people? That seems pretty lame. Especially since Jessica is supposed to be gone after season 1.
Very cool idea, I knew that something more than a spilt personality was there! I'm excited now!
maxxann
Dec 29 2007, 10:20 PM
ha ha ha... she has the virus, remember? jessica couldnt have been alive
so what, the virus just evaporated? duh.
this better be not true. very lame.
Urza Soulforge
Dec 29 2007, 11:04 PM
Cheers to that, that spoiler was not only lame, but impossible.
Sorry mate.
maverickmadge
Dec 30 2007, 05:40 AM
QUOTE(Urza Soulforge @ Dec 30 2007, 02:04 AM)

Cheers to that, that spoiler was not only lame, but impossible.
Sorry mate.
Guys it been confirmed that Jessica IS in next season, so whatever you guys canthink its lame or whatever. We'll just have to see whats happens
Nekobaghira
Dec 30 2007, 07:16 AM
QUOTE(maverickmadge @ Dec 30 2007, 08:40 AM)

Guys it been confirmed that Jessica IS in next season, so whatever you guys canthink its lame or whatever. We'll just have to see whats happens
My only thought on Jessica is how? There was a gravesite and headstone in season 1 for her. Its just one of the those things.
Jessica was more fun than Niki anyway, imo.
Neko
napoleon
Dec 30 2007, 08:24 PM
yeah ali larter is coming back for next season, which is fantastic, i have been so integed by her since the first episode, when the whole story starts i think hers got really into it really quickly, there should be more!
and didn't we get a clue from kring about even though nikis might be gone, we'll be seeing more of jessica
and gina?
i never thought it was a simple case of split personality
unless niki has another power, to tattoo herself and then remove it.?
but as for the sylar thing
would he work with anyone else anyway?
look how he reacted to michelle/candas/betty when she said they would do this together, she was meant to help him.
maxxann
Dec 31 2007, 03:13 AM
QUOTE(napoleon @ Dec 31 2007, 12:24 PM)

yeah ali larter is coming back for next season, which is fantastic, i have been so integed by her since the first episode, when the whole story starts i think hers got really into it really quickly, there should be more!
and didn't we get a clue from kring about even though nikis might be gone, we'll be seeing more of jessica
and gina?
i never thought it was a simple case of split personality
unless niki has another power, to tattoo herself and then remove it.?
but as for the sylar thing
would he work with anyone else anyway?
look how he reacted to michelle/candas/betty when she said they would do this together, she was meant to help him.
I don't think anybody is actually absorbing this: Nikki had the virus. So how will Jessica come out of it when they blow up? Like what, a ghost? Even if Nikki did survive, the virus supressed ALL of her powers - the super strength and the jessica thing. I'll repeat: so what, the virus just evaporated in the flames? Unless Claire or Peter runs to the backdoor holding a syringe and injecting her with their blood, that's close to being impossible.
She may appear in flashbacks, though. Or dreams... or consciousness of micah... whatever form but not JESSICA!!!
sylar2killpeter
Dec 31 2007, 08:53 AM
i think its a possibility that nikki might have survived the explosion, but she could have been knocked out or something which have 'woke' jessica, then jessica could have gone to find mohinder for the cure - it could happen
Urza Soulforge
Dec 31 2007, 12:33 PM
It's too... i dunno, ridiculous to me.
They had DL in the second season, but he was all flashbacks and hallucinations.
My money is on it being the same for Nikki.
Also, how the #$%& would anybody survive that explosion? I mean, she was alive in Five Years Gone, but... that's an alternate future, if anything. Even with super strength, I don't see her surviving being blown to bits.
It could be possible that we see more of Nikki as a kid, and her parents are somehow involved, and her sister. Or it could be that Jessica didn't really die, but is a new villain (the REAL Jessica, not Nikki's head Jessica).
Just wild theories at this point. But her half-surviving seems either stupid or impossible, more a combo of the two.
maxxann
Dec 31 2007, 08:36 PM
QUOTE(Urza Soulforge @ Jan 1 2008, 04:33 AM)

It could be possible that we see more of Nikki as a kid, and her parents are somehow involved, and her sister. Or it could be that Jessica didn't really die, but is a new villain (the REAL Jessica, not Nikki's head Jessica).
Just wild theories at this point. But her half-surviving seems either stupid or impossible, more a combo of the two.
This is possible. Jessica, Nikki's twin can still be really alive. But not the Nikki-jessica tandem. But still, I prefer her to stay dead. sorry guys. she's too boring really.
QUOTE(sylar2killpeter @ Jan 1 2008, 12:53 AM)

i think its a possibility that nikki might have survived the explosion, but she could have been knocked out or something which have 'woke' jessica, then jessica could have gone to find mohinder for the cure - it could happen
Have you even been reading? NIKKI HAS THE VIRUS. an explosion cannot just "wake" her power up or her alter ego for that matter. She was given drugs to supress her "other" self, right? and the virus has that same effect... so it can't be that Jessica is just knocked out of Nikki's body.
Estacado
Dec 31 2007, 10:53 PM
It's a TV show, anything could happen.
JessicaSanders
Jan 1 2008, 10:55 AM
I think its more possible that niki shut down herself and jessica took control. that its still niki but jessica is driving
evangelion0014
Jan 1 2008, 03:52 PM
I don't think it's ridiculous. I think it's just something you wouldn't see coming. And lets face it, Heroes doesn't really abide by this rule of normalcy of writing things that the audience would expect. So we shuldn't disregard this rumor just yet.
Also, Niki has the virus, not Jessica. I kinda always thought that Jessica's story didn't end like they made it seem in Season Two.
It would be hard for this to work, but that would be awesome to see Jessica as one of the villains.
Urza Soulforge
Jan 1 2008, 04:20 PM
Nikki and Jessica share the same body. She has a split personality, which keeps fragmenting cuz of her powers. Even if her Jessica personality kicked in, she's still have the virus, cuz THEY'RE IN THE SAME BODY.
There are three possibilities. Either she gets saved, she is in a bunch of flashbacks, or we're looking at Jessica as a separate character.
Niki/Jessica
Jan 1 2008, 05:05 PM
I think that having Jessica be a separate character would be a good idea, but I think it’s to predictable for Heroes, I don’t know why, but I think it.
With the whole virus thing, when don’t know what happens with the virus with a split personality and I think that the virus only affects one half of the personality, in this case, only Niki has the virus and Jessica doesn’t, making Jessica, have super strength. So before the building got blown up, Jessica could of taken full control and she could of made a back door or something.
Niki and Jessica are the best characters in the show (as well as Elle, and the late Candice/Michelle/Betty) and having Jessica being a villain would be awesome.
Timewalker
Jan 1 2008, 07:30 PM
We don't know the nature of the split personality ability and how it is effected by the drugs/virus. Is it even a "power" that can be affected by the virus? If its purely the drugs that are suppressing Jessica, we don't know the effectiveness of it.
I think something similar to this will happen: Niki is trapped and can't breathe/see and is calling out to Jessica to help in her last moments and is able to see her in a shard of glass or something. Jessica is strong enough to escape without the powers but Niki is not.
SuperHiro18
Jan 1 2008, 07:50 PM
Does trhat mean Gina is a real person if Jessica dies?
That is kinda lame, if her body is incinerated, she shouldn' resserect to a new person.
How does Jessica and Gina take over Nikis body anyway?
JessicaSanders
Jan 1 2008, 08:15 PM
six months ago explained htat jessica existed BEFORE they had powers. that jessica existed at least since niki was a small child. bob was just playing niki. and kring in tv guide has said theres nothing special niki just has multiple personality disorder taht they are one person. so jessica being the main thing would be niki shutting herself down.
napoleon
Jan 1 2008, 08:29 PM
QUOTE(maxxann @ Jan 1 2008, 03:36 PM)

This is possible. Jessica, Nikki's twin can still be really alive. But not the Nikki-jessica tandem. But still, I prefer her to stay dead. sorry guys. she's too boring really.
Have you even been reading? NIKKI HAS THE VIRUS. an explosion cannot just "wake" her power up or her alter ego for that matter. She was given drugs to supress her "other" self, right? and the virus has that same effect... so it can't be that Jessica is just knocked out of Nikki's body.
will you just shut up and not join a topic if you don't want to
i mean
HAIL ALL MIGHTY, HOW COULD SUCH PAWNS HAVE A DISCUSSION..
asshole..
AND ANYWAY, does the virus kill instantly? no?! :OREALLY!!!! STFU QQ i'm pretty sure sylar was still alive for a while..
so stop beating everyone down for talking about something kring and the other writers said
JEEZ
Urza Soulforge
Jan 1 2008, 09:41 PM
QUOTE(napoleon @ Jan 1 2008, 11:29 PM)

will you just shut up and not join a topic if you don't want to
i mean
HAIL ALL MIGHTY, HOW COULD SUCH PAWNS HAVE A DISCUSSION..
asshole..
AND ANYWAY, does the virus kill instantly? no?! :OREALLY!!!! STFU QQ i'm pretty sure sylar was still alive for a while..
so stop beating everyone down for talking about something kring and the other writers said
JEEZ
You, my friend, need to chill yourself.
I mean no hate, man. But, this is a discussion board. In a discussion, there are MULTIPLE sides (like Nikki's personality, lol). One of those sides, is the AGAINST side. That chap is on that side, as am I. We are making the point that it's impossible because Nikki has the virus, which means NO POWERS. This does NOT mean no Jessica. She could be a separate character. And even if you believe that the Jessica in Nikki's head comes out, they will not have powers. Sylar was alive, but POWERLESS.
Conclusion: NO WAY SHE SURVIVED, unless someone saved her.
The Crowing
Jan 7 2008, 01:11 PM
QUOTE(Urza Soulforge @ Jan 1 2008, 09:41 PM)

You, my friend, need to chill yourself.
I mean no hate, man. But, this is a discussion board. In a discussion, there are MULTIPLE sides (like Nikki's personality, lol). One of those sides, is the AGAINST side. That chap is on that side, as am I. We are making the point that it's impossible because Nikki has the virus, which means NO POWERS. This does NOT mean no Jessica. She could be a separate character. And even if you believe that the Jessica in Nikki's head comes out, they will not have powers. Sylar was alive, but POWERLESS.
Conclusion: NO WAY SHE SURVIVED, unless someone saved her.
Well said man! Really gets on my nerves when people carn't take other peoples opinions just because they don't match their own; i mean this is a discussion board for the love of god expect to be contradicted every now and then!
Moving on, i agree with you that Nikki is most likely dead, although iv heard rumours that Jessica somehow survives but i hope its not true because even if she is hot she it still a pretty boring character in my opinion.
maverickmadge
Jan 8 2008, 08:36 AM
QUOTE(napoleon @ Jan 1 2008, 11:29 PM)

will you just shut up and not join a topic if you don't want to
i mean
HAIL ALL MIGHTY, HOW COULD SUCH PAWNS HAVE A DISCUSSION..
asshole..
AND ANYWAY, does the virus kill instantly? no?! :OREALLY!!!! STFU QQ i'm pretty sure sylar was still alive for a while..
so stop beating everyone down for talking about something kring and the other writers said
JEEZ
I'm right there with ya. You guys are blind and can't see a character with potiential if it hit you in the face.
LAY OFF
ok the reason why we get so angry is that people wnat her dead for good, they want her gone.
Its very dissmissive and it seems that any thread with Nikki/Jessica involved everyone has a bad thing to say.
That's what were tallking about
The Crowing
Jan 8 2008, 08:41 AM
QUOTE(maverickmadge @ Jan 8 2008, 08:36 AM)

I'm right there with ya. You guys are blind and can't see a character with potiential if it hit you in the face.
LAY OFF
ok the reason why we get so angry is that people wnat her dead for good, they want her gone.
Its very dissmissive and it seems that any thread with Nikki/Jessica involved everyone has a bad thing to say.
That's what were tallking about
There is nothing wrong with getting your opinion across its just the manner in which you do it! Calling people "assholes" because they have a different opinion to you is just pathetic and there is no place for people like that here im sure.
Ando
Jan 8 2008, 10:51 AM
i for one hope that niki never returns such a boring character i always try and skip her parts.
The Crowing
Jan 8 2008, 12:09 PM
QUOTE(Hiro and Ando @ Jan 8 2008, 10:51 AM)

i for one hope that niki never returns such a boring character i always try and skip her parts.
Yep i think the super strength ability was just wasted on her character there was so much more potential for that ability.
Ando
Jan 8 2008, 01:53 PM
QUOTE(MY NAME IS SYYYYLAR! @ Jan 8 2008, 08:09 PM)

Yep i think the super strength ability was just wasted on her character there was so much more potential for that ability.
not to be sexist to any of the girls on this forum but a super strength doesnt suit a girl it should be giving to man lol
napoleon
Jan 8 2008, 06:30 PM
it only took a whole page of trying to be nice about it...
i/and the others
were exploring all the possibilities of the future for niki, he just wanted her dead
we were talking about ideas theories
he just wanted her dead
we were all being nice, and obviously fans of niki
and he just wanted her dead
sorry for the asshole, i'm not actually.
i'm sorry for the angry vibes, but if you don't like a thread? - don't keep reading it?
SuperHiro18
Jan 8 2008, 06:51 PM
Niki's sister Jessica that was killed, did she exist and is it her taking over her, cuz thats lame.
maxxann
Jan 8 2008, 11:55 PM
QUOTE(MY NAME IS SYYYYLAR! @ Jan 9 2008, 12:41 AM)

There is nothing wrong with getting your opinion across its just the manner in which you do it! Calling people "assholes" because they have a different opinion to you is just pathetic and there is no place for people like that here im sure.
THANK YOU. People who can't discuss like civilized people are not worth answering to. The reason they are angry (they admit this) is because we want Nikki dead... so what? You like her, I don't like her. That's simple. There's no need for foul languages here. This is a forum. It's a discussion. People tend to have different opinions, remember?
QUOTE(Hiro and Ando @ Jan 9 2008, 02:51 AM)

i for one hope that niki never returns such a boring character i always try and skip her parts.
AMEN TO THAT!
QUOTE(SuperHiro18 @ Jan 9 2008, 10:51 AM)

Niki's sister Jessica that was killed, did she exist and is it her taking over her, cuz thats lame.
true.
Ando
Jan 9 2008, 01:15 AM
QUOTE(SuperHiro18 @ Jan 9 2008, 02:51 AM)

Niki's sister Jessica that was killed, did she exist and is it her taking over her, cuz thats lame.
nikis whole story is lame!!!.
we should start a topic about the fact that we all hate her
napoleon
Jan 9 2008, 02:10 AM
you should
and get out of this one
SuperHiro18
Jan 9 2008, 03:03 AM
QUOTE(Hiro and Ando @ Jan 9 2008, 01:15 AM)

nikis whole story is lame!!!.
we should start a topic about the fact that we all hate her
I don't think her whole story is lame.
The Crowing
Jan 9 2008, 03:59 AM
QUOTE(maxxann @ Jan 8 2008, 11:55 PM)

THANK YOU. People who can't discuss like civilized people are not worth answering to. The reason they are angry (they admit this) is because we want Nikki dead... so what? You like her, I don't like her. That's simple. There's no need for foul languages here. This is a forum. It's a discussion. People tend to have different opinions, remember?
Yep i agree with you 100%. Also, being told "if you don't like the thread, dont keep reading it" is quite ridiculous; i don't think napoleon can quite comprehend the concept of a discussion.
The Crowing
Jan 9 2008, 04:44 AM
QUOTE(Carp @ Jan 9 2008, 04:13 AM)

I don't think Ms. Sanders's power has gone completely because she beat that guy up in the red van and was able to life that burning wood but the virus did mean that she wasn't able to lift it again for herself. I reckon the idea about the twin surviving is good but I reckon that when Niki saw no way out, she decided to give up her consciousness for however long to the Jessica part of her mind so she can use the strength more easily to get out of there and survive possibly wounded. Although, Flashbacks or an imaginary Jessica might be possible, too.
Thats a good idea that; maybe she just gives in completely to Jessica so that at least her body can survive for the sake of her son.
evangelion0014
Jan 9 2008, 09:40 AM
QUOTE
Some speculation about the future of Niki/Jessica, taken from last Monday’s ‘Watch With Kristin’ blog entry:
Is Niki coming back?
If you threatened to electrocute me with your lightning powers, I’d say…no. But I’d also tell you that doesn’t mean we’ve seen the last of Ali Larter. I’m hearing that the plan as of the last time the writers met up (prestrike) was for Niki to be dead—but for an alter ego to take over. Not Jessica, not the whipped-cream chick from Varsity Blues, and that leaves…come on, you can guess it! It’s someone we’ve seen before. Of course, all that is subject to change due to the current holding pattern.
Interesting, seems you were onto something after all ... I wonder who Niki's new alter ego is. Her mother? Her father? Future Niki? Who knows?
Ando
Jan 9 2008, 11:25 AM
QUOTE(napoleon @ Jan 9 2008, 10:10 AM)

you should
and get out of this one
opinions go both ways!, and this isnt a niki appreciation topic
evangelion0014
Jan 9 2008, 12:14 PM
QUOTE
not the whipped-cream chick from Varsity Blues
She is talking about Gina here, because Gina acts like a character Ali Larter played in the movie Varsity Blues, very childlike, but also very rebellious and flirtatious.
SuperHiro18
Jan 9 2008, 10:49 PM
Varsity Blues?
Never heard of it...
Ando
Jan 9 2008, 11:20 PM
QUOTE(SuperHiro18 @ Jan 10 2008, 06:49 AM)

Varsity Blues?
Never heard of it...
it might only be in the U.S
SuperHiro18
Jan 9 2008, 11:21 PM
QUOTE(Ando Masahashi @ Jan 9 2008, 11:20 PM)

it might only be in the U.S
It's a movie though?
adzster
Jan 9 2008, 11:52 PM
i hope she does team up with sylar that would be mint
SuperHiro18
Jan 10 2008, 12:00 AM
QUOTE(adzster @ Jan 9 2008, 11:52 PM)

i hope she does team up with sylar that would be mint
Sylar will just steal the ability!
Ando
Jan 10 2008, 12:12 AM
QUOTE(adzster @ Jan 10 2008, 07:52 AM)

i hope she does team up with sylar that would be mint
ye sylar will never team up with anyone
evangelion0014
Jan 10 2008, 03:51 AM
QUOTE
ye sylar will never team up with anyone
He wouldn't unless certain circumstances arouse. Maya and Alejandro? Remember...
SuperHiro18
Jan 10 2008, 03:59 AM
I want a Peter and Sylar to team up bitterly to defeat some big power before there last showdown.
Elle Mars
Jan 10 2008, 04:06 PM
I really hope they didn't let Ali Larter go. I'm okay with Niki getting the boot, but letting Ali go period is unacceptable. She has the potential, but she never got the writing needed for it.
Everyone loves a female villain vixen.
SuperHiro18
Jan 10 2008, 04:10 PM
QUOTE(Elle Mars @ Jan 10 2008, 04:06 PM)

I really hope they didn't let Ali Larter go. I'm okay with Niki getting the boot, but letting Ali go period is unacceptable. She has the potential, but she never got the writing needed for it.
Everyone loves a female villain vixen.
That's Elle...a evil good gal.
maxxann
Jan 10 2008, 08:39 PM
QUOTE(MY NAME IS SYYYYLAR! @ Jan 9 2008, 07:59 PM)

Yep i agree with you 100%. Also, being told "if you don't like the thread, dont keep reading it" is quite ridiculous; i don't think napoleon can quite comprehend the concept of a discussion.

Àgree. Napoleon's not an open-minded person. I think he just wants to read what he wants to read.
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