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Gez
The killer appears in season one . Im not sure of the episode name, Do you remember the episode when Matt discovers his powers and finds Molly ?

If you do you should remember someone breaking in to get Molly , it was not Sylar ! I watch this clip over again and paused it and it looks like the person that shot Nathan and you can see a white beard and he is wearing a hat i think it was him, Matt shot the person but he then got up and went .But they thought it was sylar.

But how could he regenarate so it wasnt him also Sylar didnt know about molly because she was hiding under the stairs when they found her.

What i think happened was the elders discovered about molly gift so they sent an elder to mollys house.
They used Molly fathers powers against him. Then Sylar came so the elders went so they didnt get Molly but Sylar cut open the head to get the fathers powers
Later they discovered where she was so they went after molly but Matt stoped the person .

The elders found out how about Mollys powers so thats why they where after her.

This is my first post. Please watch the episode and when you see the man pause it and look close you see a white beard and he gets up from bullet wounds. i think this is the person that shot nathan

Power Mimic
In that episode that was supposed to be Sylar. Maybe Zachary Quinto wasn't casted at the time.
Urza Soulforge
harsh dude...

i mean, if you weren't perceptive... you would confuse the two....

but meh
Luk3
The current Sylar wasn't actually cast until episode 9. I think it was then I know he hasn't been there since the start as I saw it on Heroes Uncut i think it is called after the episode was aired in England.
Da.Cu-Ba
So what was the dad's power ??
BaneSilvermoon
And since Sylar can stop bullets, he doesn't really have to regenerate. I never did 100% piece together his little disappearing act on that though.
Raekon
The person that broke in to get molly was sylar. He had as well frozen/killed a few agents to do so.
The others are right when they say that the actor for the role wasn't cast because the sylar character was to be played by the actor(christopher E.) that actually played Claude but he refused the role.
That's why they had to find someone else for that role so Zachary came into play and got it.
Wulfei
QUOTE(Urza Soulforge @ Feb 24 2008, 10:48 AM) *
harsh dude...

i mean, if you weren't perceptive... you would confuse the two....

but meh


I agree
I hate people who think they're better then other people.
Gez was just uninformed, and threw out his wild theories....which we all have.

but since this train seems to have derailed
let's get it back on the right track.

so...who shot Nathan?

Now I've been doing other things since the writers strike, so I sort of forgot where they went with Nathan's storyline in Season 2.
so, I'm going the easy route and saying that it's a new character.

It'd probably be a bigger plot twist if it was someone we knew, but I'd have to watch Season 2 again.
Which I am biggrin.gif
rey tj
I don't think that Peters dad has a power because if you read the novels when arthur and linderman first meat in the war linderman heals arthur and arthur shows no sign of having a power unless he only got his power later on in his life.


And i think that the person that shot Nathan is the new character Knox and he works with the company to do all their dirty work.
Urza Soulforge
One problem with that theory. The guy who capped Nathan was white. Knox is not...

I know, everyone expects the black guy to be using the gun... but it's a white dude.

and your bubble just went pop.
jessicalyn
I think Noah Bennett shot Nathan. He was back to work for the company at the end of volume 2 so I think its conceivable that he shot him.
Ando
QUOTE(jessicalyn @ Mar 20 2008, 04:25 PM) *
I think Noah Bennett shot Nathan. He was back to work for the company at the end of volume 2 so I think its conceivable that he shot him.

Maybe! unsure.gif wink.gif
Animimic
Ok...my wild theory "Who Shot Nathan?"....I played back the episode...5 times,watched the reruns 5 times again...
particularly that scene when Nathan said..
"..I have the abilty to (Bang3x!)"

...chaos...mute dialogue..music...man in trench coat..

decription?...."dark haired...from the company OR the Elders...Asian" (hope not Ando!) worst case scenario...hitman sent out by Angela Petrelli! ohmy.gif Remember she was on the phone with someone informing her of the shooting? She was crying...but calm.
Jables
I believe that since the actor has hinted that he was in fact, in on the shooting. It is possible he staged it to increase his popularity with the public.
GoldSeven
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Remember she was on the phone with someone informing her of the shooting? She was crying...but calm.


And she was wearing a black jumpsuit and had shorter hair than normal. blink.gif ph34r.gif

Although the assassin's physique points strongly towards Bennet, more than anyone else. I really wonder how his whole ting unravels itself, who was in on what. I hope that Nathan was in on something.
gamb
I think it was Future Peter
peterthesavior25
You might actually be onto something, but ur explanation kind of confused me. Maybe I need to watch the old episodes again.
starwarsgeek
Get your internet terms straight Carp: Noob implies unskilled and stupid, while Newb implies new and ignorant. biggrin.gif

Anyway, I saw a blown-up pic of the shooter; didn't really look like HRG. (Although it did resemble the sylar stand-in from the beggining, as the topic creator pointed out.)

Anyway, new character--most likely a company assassin.

BTW, don't let this slip-up stop you from posting future theories.
Sam
I can't think of anyone who would shoot Nathen. There's there dad but I don't know.
starwarsgeek
QUOTE(Carp @ Mar 27 2008, 02:18 PM) *
Who says that I didn't mean to imply unskilled and stupid? Why would the supposed slip up stop me from posting future theories?



I was assuming that you meant that he was new and ignorant since it was his first post

And that last bit was meant for the TC; ya know...since he slipped up because he didn't know that the they used someone else until Sylar got some lit-up screen time

...and because he posted the theory...

sorry for any confusion
Ando
QUOTE(Carp @ Mar 29 2008, 03:32 AM) *
Ayt no worries, Brother. For the record, I did mean new and ignorant.

Can't be talking like that anymore Carp. tongue.gif
Abolyss
Hmm i think it would be cool if it was there dad. but for some reason
i think hes dead. is this true? i can't remember.

anyway, it would be cool if it was someone close like that.
protecting their secret.

Obi-Wan Gibnobi
Well the show wants you to believe that his mum was behind it. As for the shooter it could be anyone or no one.
Abolyss
QUOTE(GIBBY @ Apr 6 2008, 03:25 PM) *
Well the show wants you to believe that his mum was behind it. As for the shooter it could be anyone or no one.


true. it could be just a hitman. hired by angela.

it could bring it into showing us her power.
Obi-Wan Gibnobi
QUOTE(Abolyss @ Apr 6 2008, 07:49 AM) *
true. it could be just a hitman. hired by angela.

it could bring it into showing us her power.


The trailer shows a darker Angela, and she was already a shady character.
Klenotka
I donīt know but the more I think about it, the more I believe that the shooting was a set-up prepared by Nathan. I think, if the shooter were HRG, that they could have made a deal...and Peter or Matt didnīt seem *that* confused and angry how they should be.
And he could wear the vest. Adrian said that all clues were in that episode so if I am thinking about it then attempt to kill him would draw more attention then revealing of the ability itself.
OK, now I am not sure if I make sense. blink.gif
Abolyss
QUOTE(Klenotka @ Apr 6 2008, 04:59 PM) *
And he could wear the vest. Adrian said that all clues were in that episode so if I am thinking about it then attempt to kill him would draw more attention then revealing of the ability itself.
OK, now I am not sure if I make sense. blink.gif


You could be right. maybe they are trying to prove that it needs to be revealed by showing how dangerous the company is and that people with powers are in danger because of that.

although

i dont see why they would go through all that trouble.

maybe/maybe not
Obi-Wan Gibnobi
Nice idea, just doesnt seem plausable to me
Klenotka
I guess we just have to wait and see. The waiting is killing me! biggrin.gif
Abolyss
QUOTE(Klenotka @ Apr 6 2008, 05:13 PM) *
I guess we just have to wait and see. The waiting is killing me! biggrin.gif


Join the club
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September cant come soon enough.
Obi-Wan Gibnobi
QUOTE(Klenotka @ Apr 6 2008, 09:13 AM) *
I guess we just have to wait and see. The waiting is killing me! biggrin.gif


Im not saying your idea is wrong, some parts of it may be right. But the bulletproof vest stuff and that?
Abolyss
QUOTE(GIBBY @ Apr 6 2008, 05:16 PM) *
Im not saying your idea is wrong, some parts of it may be right. But the bulletproof vest stuff and that?



wasnt it proven that he wore a vest?

i dont know where i got that but i think i remember it.
Obi-Wan Gibnobi
I dont think he did, I think hes dead. This will be Petes tradgedy. Its what I picked up on from the last few episodes, so many tradgedys, far to many.

Heroes & Villians

Even Elle, you see the look of pleasure she got from hearing she saved Mohinder, just adds to my theory.

But like you said we'll have to just wait and see
Klenotka
Spoiler:
He isnīt dead. He even wasnīt dead. Adrian already confirmed his return.
And I really wouldnīt want to watch Peter without Nathan bc I donīt like Peter when he is on his own.


I think that as an ex-soldier and ex-politician, he should know that to say something this public controversial might be dangerous. Wearing the vest should be normal and "the blood" can be done by simple trick.

I donīt know, I keep thinking like that since Adrian spoke about the posibilities. I think it also says that he wonīt be healed by Claireś blood (which would in HIS case made more sense than for Maya since Claire is his daughter!)
Obi-Wan Gibnobi
QUOTE(Klenotka @ Apr 6 2008, 09:52 AM) *
He isnīt dead. He even wasnīt dead. Adrian already confirmed his return.
And I really wouldnīt want to watch Peter without Nathan bc I donīt like Peter when he is on his own.

I think that as an ex-soldier and ex-politician, he should know that to say something this public controversial might be dangerous. Wearing the vest should be normal and "the blood" can be done by simple trick.

I donīt know, I keep thinking like that since Adrian spoke about the posibilities. I think it also says that he wonīt be healed by Claireœ blood (which would in HIS case made more sense than for Maya since Claire is his daughter!)


Worded better, but I dont think he was conspiring his own assasination attempt though, who knows smile.gif
rey tj
QUOTE(Klenotka @ Apr 6 2008, 09:52 AM) *
Spoiler:
He isnīt dead. He even wasnīt dead. Adrian already confirmed his return.
And I really wouldnīt want to watch Peter without Nathan bc I donīt like Peter when he is on his own.


I think that as an ex-soldier and ex-politician, he should know that to say something this public controversial might be dangerous. Wearing the vest should be normal and "the blood" can be done by simple trick.

I donīt know, I keep thinking like that since Adrian spoke about the posibilities. I think it also says that he wonīt be healed by Claireœ blood (which would in HIS case made more sense than for Maya since Claire is his daughter!)


When was he a soildier are you talking about nathans dad?
Obi-Wan Gibnobi
No Nathan had a slight military background, as most politicians do
rey tj
QUOTE(GIBBY @ Apr 6 2008, 10:17 AM) *
No Nathan had a slight military background, as most politicians do


A thanks 4 cleaning that up 4 me. And on the trailer 4 season 3 finale they said that 2 heroes die so if nathan survives then they lied but that doesn't realy matter we all like nathan so it doesn't matter no one will object i hope.
Abolyss
Well didnt they lie before? they said a hero dies and they died but came back to life.
so maybe 1 hero dies.
Obi-Wan Gibnobi
QUOTE(rey tj @ Apr 6 2008, 10:20 AM) *
A thanks 4 cleaning that up 4 me. And on the trailer 4 season 3 finale they said that 2 heroes die so if nathan survives then they lied but that doesn't realy matter we all like nathan so it doesn't matter no one will object i hope.


I like Nathan aswell, hes vulnerable in the sense that he can die, yet hes so strong morally. But I think Peter works with or without Nathan.
rey tj
i suppose if natan dies and then peter remembers that his blood can heal people. Is that how isacc comes back because i heard that isacc was supposed to come back.
Obi-Wan Gibnobi
QUOTE(rey tj @ Apr 6 2008, 10:26 AM) *
i suppose if natan dies and then peter remembers that his blood can heal people. Is that how isacc comes back because i heard that isacc was supposed to come back.


Mate I just finished watching it the other day, due to connection probs ages ago, so you probably know better than me whos in next season. But common sense says to me no, Peter can paint the future, as can Sylar. So for that to happen Pete would have to be trapped and they needed Isaac.

All ifs just now though
Abolyss
QUOTE(rey tj @ Apr 6 2008, 06:26 PM) *
i suppose if natan dies and then peter remembers that his blood can heal people. Is that how isacc comes back because i heard that isacc was supposed to come back.



Although isaac is cool i dont see a point in him coming back now that he has become a kind of
legend for the heroes that know of him. and peter has his powers now soooo
rey tj
QUOTE(Abolyss @ Apr 6 2008, 10:30 AM) *
Although isaac is cool i dont see a point in him coming back now that he has become a kind of
legend for the heroes that know of him. and peter has his powers now soooo



Ye i'm just telling u what i heard it might not be true.
Obi-Wan Gibnobi
QUOTE(Abolyss @ Apr 6 2008, 10:30 AM) *
Although isaac is cool i dont see a point in him coming back now that he has become a kind of
legend for the heroes that know of him. and peter has his powers now soooo


I agree, but it still could happen!
rey tj
QUOTE(GIBBY @ Apr 6 2008, 10:34 AM) *
I agree, but it still could happen!



As the person acting as Isacc said anything can happen in the world of heroes. (well thats what he roughly said)
Abolyss
QUOTE(rey tj @ Apr 6 2008, 06:36 PM) *
As the person acting as Isacc said anything can happen in the world of heroes. (well thats what he roughly said)


I wouldnt mind that happening it would be cool seeing him meeting hiro and them again
"hey guys what i miss biggrin.gif "
Obi-Wan Gibnobi
QUOTE(Abolyss @ Apr 6 2008, 10:41 AM) *
I wouldnt mind that happening it would be cool seeing him meeting hiro and them again
"hey guys what i miss biggrin.gif "


Your head getting cut off, fancy a cuppa?
Abolyss
QUOTE(GIBBY @ Apr 6 2008, 06:43 PM) *
Your head getting cut off, fancy a cuppa?


tongue.gif yea it doesnt seem very plausible seeing as his brain is missing. cant exactly replace his brain

would the healing blood work that well?
rey tj
QUOTE(Abolyss @ Apr 6 2008, 10:45 AM) *
tongue.gif yea it doesnt seem very plausible seeing as his brain is missing. cant exactly replace his brain

would the healing blood work that well?



That is a good point maybe you have to have the brain first hopefully Sylar didn't eat it otherwise the heroes have to find the place he went to the after he eat it and then hope he 4got to flush it.
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