melody
Jan 17 2007, 12:57 PM
It would be so cool to heal yourself don't ya think? its an amazing power.
Arkhanno
Jan 17 2007, 01:07 PM
It would be nice if you could control what you want to fully heal, instead of just healing... If I had the power to control what I could heal, then I would carve things into my body...
studly stud
Jan 17 2007, 01:54 PM
one thing i never really understood is y wouldn't it hurt her healing and getting hurt are too different things
Jester77
Jan 17 2007, 08:17 PM
QUOTE(studly stud @ Jan 17 2007, 02:54 PM) [snapback]694[/snapback]
one thing i never really understood is y wouldn't it hurt her healing and getting hurt are too different things
Wait what? Claire stills feels pain though she is able to heal herself so the pain would then go away
Midnight Sky
Jan 17 2007, 08:35 PM
QUOTE(studly stud @ Jan 17 2007, 02:54 PM) [snapback]694[/snapback]
one thing i never really understood is y wouldn't it hurt her healing and getting hurt are too different things
Hmm… Do you mean it should hurt when she heals herself? Like it hurts to have bones broken and to have your flesh cut open, so why shouldn’t it hurt to have your bones put back together and your skin/muscles to be regenerated? Kind of like, it should get worse before it gets better? In that case, I’d agree.
I don’t know if I’m making any sense…
pappa suresh
Jan 18 2007, 02:15 AM
QUOTE(Midnight Sky @ Jan 17 2007, 08:35 PM) [snapback]1111[/snapback]
Hmm… Do you mean it should hurt when she heals herself? Like it hurts to have bones broken and to have your flesh cut open, so why shouldn’t it hurt to have your bones put back together and your skin/muscles to be regenerated? Kind of like, it should get worse before it gets better? In that case, I’d agree.
I don’t know if I’m making any sense…

hey guys there is sort of cannon for the pain no pain thing in episode 1 the uncut version with the garbage disposal she gets her fingers sliced off and she feels pain as this happens and then if you watch closely she feels pain/discomfort as the hand is behind her back healing.
also i believe in that episode when she jumps of the bridge she also feels pain as she puts her shoulder back in place after it was dislocated.
the only thing i can say is it was the pilot episode so it may not be "cannon" as such but i would think it would be .
will be fascinating to see where the character of Claire is developed too in the future !!
pappa suresh out!!!!
melody
Jan 18 2007, 12:44 PM
when she stuck her hand down the sink and healed herself when she was talkin to her mom i thought that was so funny
slop27
Jan 18 2007, 02:39 PM
if claire can heal so fast then if she was chopped in like half would there be two hers because they both grow back what is missing like a starfish?
Jester77
Jan 18 2007, 03:17 PM
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if claire can heal so fast then if she was chopped in like half would there be two hers because they both grow back what is missing like a starfish?
I've wondered that myself but it seems kind of strange, but maybe if something is chopped off she can just reattach it like how she folded back the skin flaps when she was on the autopsy table
Icarus
Jan 19 2007, 01:43 AM
I have a question, Can Claire die and stay dead? Because at the autopsy table after the lady pulled out the stick in her brain, she came back to life.
John
Jan 19 2007, 08:54 AM
QUOTE(Icarus @ Jan 19 2007, 04:43 AM) [snapback]1306[/snapback]
I have a question, Can Claire die and stay dead? Because at the autopsy table after the lady pulled out the stick in her brain, she came back to life.
I am sure if she loses her head or her brain is damaged too much then she will die
Arkhanno
Jan 19 2007, 09:49 AM
QUOTE(John @ Jan 19 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]1317[/snapback]
I am sure if she loses her head or her brain is damaged too much then she will die
As long as Claire has a flow of blood, her brain, and some way of getting oxygen into the blood, then she can heal herself... No matter what cell it is in your body, it can regenerate... Braincells can take up to six years to regenerate, yet when Claire had that stick removed she did it in seconds... Just goes to show how fast it is...
Jester77
Jan 20 2007, 02:39 PM
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As long as Claire has a flow of blood, her brain, and some way of getting oxygen into the blood, then she can heal herself... No matter what cell it is in your body, it can regenerate... Braincells can take up to six years to regenerate, yet when Claire had that stick removed she did it in seconds... Just goes to show how fast it is...
Yeah her power is very interesting, and it's amazing how quickly she can heal herself
slop27
Jan 20 2007, 08:20 PM
but the odd thing is that with this ability shouldn't her metabolism be through the roof cause at tht rate of healing it would take up so much energy that she would need like 8 square meals a day at least and what about the limit of life thing?
the_cheerleader
Jan 21 2007, 02:07 PM
QUOTE(slop27 @ Jan 20 2007, 11:20 PM) [snapback]1474[/snapback]
but the odd thing is that with this ability shouldn't her metabolism be through the roof cause at tht rate of healing it would take up so much energy that she would need like 8 square meals a day at least and what about the limit of life thing?
*shrugs* its a show, i don't think they thought about that.
Arkhanno
Jan 21 2007, 02:35 PM
QUOTE(slop27 @ Jan 20 2007, 11:20 PM) [snapback]1474[/snapback]
but the odd thing is that with this ability shouldn't her metabolism be through the roof cause at tht rate of healing it would take up so much energy that she would need like 8 square meals a day at least and what about the limit of life thing?
You would think that would be the case, but the human body can only do things so fast. Yeah, she has rapid tissue regeneration, BUT don't you think that if the food can't go through the body fast enough, that it would make due on the rations it already has in it's cells, until the next meal...?
Jester77
Jan 21 2007, 07:28 PM
Hmm honestly though she might need to eat all that food if that was a real power, it is still just a television show and they don't put that much thought into it. If they did then a lot of questions would be raised especially regarding what Claire's limits are
Hero in Waiting
Jan 21 2007, 08:11 PM
Wow.... you guys sure are overanalyzing this. I think I'll just watch and enjoy. Some very interesting theories though, especially the metabolism one...
Jester77
Jan 21 2007, 09:11 PM
Yeah but thats what fans are for to completely overanalyze
pappa suresh
Jan 22 2007, 04:25 AM
the food consumption thing was raised on so many occasions when it related to "the flash" as essenshaly he was vibrating so fast the energy he needed to do his thing was vast so they have him eating huge calorie laced foods like cakes and burgers ect.. but i dont see why it has to be so with claire or any of the heroes for that matter what if the change that took place is genetic surely the evolution of the genome would compensate for this as we see the creatures of the amazon and other places in the world have evolved to adapt all be it over a large period of time thousands of years.
but if we assume that the level of change is slight enough at the present time i think it would be entirely possible that Claire and the others ability's could develop and have limited ill effects on them
i am just looking forwards to some great debates on the forums and see what theory's we come up with
pappa suresh out !!!
DCSimian
Jan 22 2007, 11:51 AM
I don't think she feels pain at the same level as normal human beings do. She feels something, but I'd put it at the level of mild discomfort. She'd be screaming at the top of her lungs at some of her injuries if she felt pain as normal humans did. Ribs poking out of her skin, chest sliced open, face crushed in, arm dislocated, fingers mauled, head doing a 180 (which was really ridiculous)...
I wonder if she can reattach completely severed limbs...
Hero in Waiting
Jan 22 2007, 12:06 PM
I would agree with the higher tolerance of pain. She put herself through the mill. That would take an amazing constitution if she felt pain the same way we do.
Jester77
Jan 24 2007, 08:05 PM
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I don't think she feels pain at the same level as normal human beings do. She feels something, but I'd put it at the level of mild discomfort. She'd be screaming at the top of her lungs at some of her injuries if she felt pain as normal humans did. Ribs poking out of her skin, chest sliced open, face crushed in, arm dislocated, fingers mauled, head doing a 180 (which was really ridiculous)...
I wonder if she can reattach completely severed limbs...
I agree with you completely, there is no way that Claire could feel the normal amount of pain and not need to be on morphine every time she gets injured. Also even though Claire is my favorite character that head doing a 180 was kind of lame, it's kind of stupid to believe that no one besides Zach would have seen that...and I've also wondered if Claire can reattach severed limbs
heromaxine
Jan 27 2007, 11:10 PM
Have you ever actually noticed how fast our own bodies heal? It's pretty amazing. Like you get a small cut or scratch and by the next day, its already growing the skin back together. Our bodies are amazing just like we are normally and these heroes are on hyper drive when it comes to their powers. So it is mind boggling the way Claire heals.
I believe that healing is done on the cellular level. As long as the cells have the material that they need they will heal. The brain, of course, is the organ, the control center, that sends out all the messages going to the cells to tell them to heal. I don't think that it would require extra food going into her body, its just that what does go in is used more efficiently by her body's cells and the proper materials stored in her cells and ready for use when she needs it. I don't think that it would change any of the other bodily processes on their functional levels such as digestion, breathing, or metabolism. Metabolism is the rate at which your body burns and stores fats. It would be affected only by the type of food she eats, the quantity, how often she eats and how much exercise she gets and how much her body actually burns in the process. If you intake more calories than your body can burn then the excess gets stored as fat. Your body has to create new fat cells to store the fat in when the ones you already have are full. And everyone has to have some fat cells for the body to function normally. A normal metabolism does a pretty good job of keeping things in balance. The things that cause it to get out of balance are things like yo- yo dieting, lack of regular exercise and stress.
It would be doubtful that Claire's body would get fat as her cells are making sure that they get what they need and are using the material super efficiently unless she just quits eating. If her metabolism was affected by her super healing, then you would think that she would either be constantly tired and needing massage amounts of food just to keep functioning and we don't see that happening. Things that might be affected with Claire might be things like growth and aging since these both occur at the cellular level. Our little Claire may not grow old! That is what aging is, when our cells no longer can regenerate themselves as they once did so more are dying and not being replaced. We see the signs in our skin, hair, muscles, bones and organs including our brains.
I believe that the reason Claire made it to the autopsy room without healing is that the stick in her brain was temporarialy prohibiting her brain from sending the messages to the cells to heal. Once the stick was removed the messages were sent and she pulled her open chest back together and her cells took it from there.
I agree that she does feels some pain and discomfort when putting her body back together, as evidenced by the facial expressions, grimases, some grunts or other verbal sounds when doing this. But its only temporary and passes very quickly as her body is healing so rapidly.
I do think that she can die....if Sylar steals her brain or if she received a massage brain injury that disabled her brain from being able to send those messages. She wouldn't have her brain to tell the cells to heal. I don't think that her cells regenerate without her brain sending those messages to trigger the healing process.
Thus, I think that if she were cut in half that only the half with her brain would regenerate into a whole person again. The other half would die. And if she were split lengthwise, then only the side with that portion of the brain that governs the sending of the messages would regenerate and the other half would die. So there would never be two Claires.
Melissa78
Jan 27 2007, 11:15 PM
It's a cool power to have but everytime the girls hurts herself I cringe and say ow that must hurt.
Jester77
Jan 27 2007, 11:20 PM
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It's a cool power to have but everytime the girls hurts herself I cringe and say ow that must hurt.
How can you not? Like when she stuck her hand in the garbage disposal
Melissa78
Jan 27 2007, 11:30 PM
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Jan 28 2007, 03:20 AM) [snapback]2772[/snapback]
How can you not? Like when she stuck her hand in the garbage disposal
Oh Go god! I cringed especially on that one with the garbage disposal
heromaxine
Jan 27 2007, 11:31 PM
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Jan 28 2007, 01:20 AM) [snapback]2772[/snapback]
How can you not? Like when she stuck her hand in the garbage disposal
Ouch, I know it. It's like the visual is so real that you almost "feel" it! It was really freaky when Claire was on that authopsy table. And every time she would pull out something sharp from her body or straighten a broken limb, I could hardly watch. Peter too, when Clare came to him after he went off the side of that stadium and you saw him with those twisted legs and he started straightening them. Oh, that hurt. Did you see that picture of him with the four legs? I guess that was how they did that little trick. Amazing stuff, how real they make all that seem to us viewers.
Jester77
Jan 28 2007, 12:42 PM
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Peter too, when Clare came to him after he went off the side of that stadium and you saw him with those twisted legs and he started straightening them. Oh, that hurt. Did you see that picture of him with the four legs? I guess that was how they did that little trick. Amazing stuff, how real they make all that seem to us viewers.
Yeah that scene with Peter "putting himself back together" was a bit gross especially when he snapped his ankle back in place. I never saw the picture though, I'd like to see it though if you could put it up
slop27
Jan 28 2007, 02:08 PM
yeah some of the scenes are kinda nasty but the sounds they use when popping bones back into place and the squishy sounds are pretty acurate representations of what it actully sounds like. but the bone popping is too soft and it isn't as clear as it should be cause it should be a well defined pop that is pretty loud.
Jester77
Jan 28 2007, 02:13 PM
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yeah some of the scenes are kinda nasty but the sounds they use when popping bones back into place and the squishy sounds are pretty acurate representations of what it actully sounds like. but the bone popping is too soft and it isn't as clear as it should be cause it should be a well defined pop that is pretty loud.
I'm surprised that you actually know what it sounds like when bones are put back in place, I have no idea so I figure that it just sounds like how it's on the show
Novak Fan
Jan 28 2007, 04:36 PM
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Yeah that scene with Peter "putting himself back together" was a bit gross especially when he snapped his ankle back in place. I never saw the picture though, I'd like to see it though if you could put it up
you can find that and other backstage pictures here
http://www.gregbeeman.blogspot.com/He have really cool ones
Jester77
Jan 28 2007, 04:40 PM
Oh awesome thanks for the link
Novak Fan
Jan 28 2007, 08:52 PM
Glad to help
melody
Feb 14 2007, 05:38 PM
i am still in awe that nathan is her real dad lol
Jester77
Feb 14 2007, 06:00 PM
I hope that they don't keep us waiting for too long to see Claire and Nathan meet and then Claire and Peter discovering that they are related..those will be some pretty awesome scenes
Hero in Waiting
Feb 14 2007, 08:54 PM
I agree, that will be interesting....
Aerdna
Feb 15 2007, 07:55 PM
Yep, an interesting family reunion indeed...
"ZOMGz! That really hawt dude that saved me and I was all googly eyed over is my uncle?!?! Shucks..."
Jester77
Feb 15 2007, 08:22 PM
Alright I've got a pretty big spoiler here from Ask Ausiello that pertains to Claire, don't read it unless you want to know..
[spoiler]Question: A big glass of Smurfberry Snapple if you tell me if my suspicions are right and it's Claire-Bear who gets killed on Heroes.— Layla
Ausiello: Here's my dilemma: Claire isn't the one dying, but I still want that big glass of Smurfberry Snapple. I suppose I could lie and say Claire is going to die, but that seems kinda underhanded. Thoughts? Here's something to chew on whilst you mull that over: There are actually two big Heroes deaths coming up. One's on Mar. 5, the other is in the run-up to the season finale. [/spoiler]
Tim Kring
Feb 15 2007, 08:31 PM
Nice spoiler JESTER!
Um, by the way, what would it be like for her to give birth! IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE FOR CLAIRE! PAINLESS!
Jester77
Feb 16 2007, 07:54 PM
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PAINLESS!
Claire feels pain to some degree, obviously the pain she feels is not as much as the next person but there is obvious discomfort that can be seen on her face when she puts herself together
Tim Kring
Feb 16 2007, 07:58 PM
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Feb 16 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]7468[/snapback]
Claire feels pain to some degree, obviously the pain she feels is not as much as the next person but there is obvious discomfort that can be seen on her face when she puts herself together
Well if she has a baby, it will be hella easy! The doctors would FREAK!!! LOL!!
Jester77
Feb 16 2007, 08:02 PM
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Well if she has a baby, it will be hella easy! The doctors would FREAK!!! LOL!!
..And we'll stop it there before things go badly
lyfe255754
Mar 2 2007, 10:08 PM
Im new here dont know where to put this, but how powerful is Claire. If lets say someone was to cut off a limb like a finger, arm leg, maybe even her head would it regenerate like a broken bone or a cut. or would it be lost forever.
Gargy
Mar 3 2007, 09:02 AM
QUOTE(lyfe255754 @ Mar 3 2007, 12:08 AM) [snapback]10204[/snapback]
Im new here dont know where to put this, but how powerful is Claire. If lets say someone was to cut off a limb like a finger, arm leg, maybe even her head would it regenerate like a broken bone or a cut. or would it be lost forever.
She's still a human being...........not an earth worm........it's Rapid CELLULAR Regeneration........."Healing" as Claire herself put it...........I doubt she could re-grow any digit nor limb.
Jester77
Mar 3 2007, 05:51 PM
There's been a lot of discussion over Claire's power, how far can her ability go? Well obviously we all know that Claire can die but only through her brain being damaged but if she loses a limb will it grow back? I kind of doubt that she is like a starfish but maybe if something was cut off she could reattach it, maybe they'll eventually tell us cause I'd really like to know
Aerdna
Mar 3 2007, 06:32 PM
That would be INSANE if they ever did a scene where Claire got one of her limbs cut off! NBC would probably have to cough up a lot of cash for them to pull that off. she was pretty damn close in the pilot to getting her fingers cut off by the garbage disposal, but we will never know if her fingers could've grown back if she was dumb enough to keep her fingers in there
Jester77
Mar 3 2007, 06:42 PM
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That would be INSANE if they ever did a scene where Claire got one of her limbs cut off! NBC would probably have to cough up a lot of cash for them to pull that off. she was pretty damn close in the pilot to getting her fingers cut off by the garbage disposal, but we will never know if her fingers could've grown back if she was dumb enough to keep her fingers in there
I don't think that it would be that expensive to have a limb to cut off, I'd just like to know the limits of Claire's power since they've never directly said anything
Tim Kring
Mar 6 2007, 01:04 AM
QUOTE(Jester77 @ Mar 3 2007, 06:42 PM) [snapback]10394[/snapback]
I don't think that it would be that expensive to have a limb to cut off, I'd just like to know the limits of Claire's power since they've never directly said anything
I'd like to see her limits too... They should explain... But I am NOT expecting anything.
She could grow back her fingers, in that episode she put her hand in the sink or something while trying to retrieve her ring. Came out with a chunk gone, then she hid her hand behind her back and when the camera showed her hand again, it was fully recoverd.
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